# martyk's notes **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [December 6, 2007, 5:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162 "2007-12-06T05:49:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 5:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/1 "2007-12-06T05:49:38Z")
Been experimenting for about the last two weeks with a variety of stuff. Not too much, but here’s my observations. ~Specific Product Notes~ 1. **A314** , very subtle, yet works pretty much as described. Best results when used on new people for extended periods. They really almost seem to have a bit of awe to them. Slower on people you have established relationships with. Provides a good base that’s effective everyday, and not overly in your face or offensive. Being a person who has a past of strongly objecting to any sort of scented wearable products, this stuff if really easy on the nose. Smells kinda like flowers or some kind of soap? 2. **P74** , 25mcg per spray. Another that seems to live up to expectation. Cool, collected, confident. However, two cavets. Using it pure gives it a rather short effective window. 2-3 hoursish. Once it wears off, you feel totally out of it. Another shot seems to work as a great pick-me-up, but if you forget the bottle you may feel just too worn out to make the most of a night. Normally, I’m the sort that parties until there is no one left to party with, however this sort of kills me in the long run. Zombie like just need sleep etc. Anyone else experience this? 3. **Instant Shine, Instant Openness**. Mentioned them before. Of the Instants I’ve tried, definitely my favorites. But, I’ve learned that I tend to get a bit carried away with them. Small doses are great to just add a little brightness and cheer. 4. **83**. 12.5 Definitely an attraction factor, but I have not had the right motivations or opportunities to really give this one the run around. Worried I might be trying to go a bit gung-ho on it. Seems most appropriate to mix it with something to encourage social interaction. ~Random Interjections~ 1. Putatives are nice to bolster yourself for something quick as a nice throw on top, but their definite main draw is mixing. Without some of the other components, the effects are much shorter lived, so keep in mind you may have to reapply, or just make the best use of your time. 2. Be vary wary of over doing it. If you’ve got a good mix going, be very careful of trying to “kick it up a notch.” If you’ve already got a complex mix going, tossing on something really in your face such as MX203 is probably going to ruin your night. 3. It’s important to have a good time and not overthink things. If you spend all your time trying to “observe the effects of your signature” chances are you’re blowing it. That’s not to say you shouldn’t be mindful, just that it’s wasteful to over analyze every situation. Still much to try, much to do. Kinda want those two new test packs, but I surely have enough on my plate. Still in need of more thorough testing before I can report on them: [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) 203 (like the scent), 204 (don’t seem to match tater’s observations) 86 ---
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 3:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/2 "2007-12-06T15:38:47Z")
Hello Martyk! Thank you for your report! I have some of your Pheros too, and I noticed about the same things. Until now, while wearing Pheros, I only noticed mainly self-effects, but not much on people aorund me. About [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), I had you very same impression!!! It was great for the first 2-3 hours, and then I felt really worn off. Really like were days without sleep!!! Damn, while reading your post, I thought I wrote it :-)!!! I still have to test TUTH… Hmmm… That scares me a bit… I’ll overflow it with socials ;-)!!! See ya Franz ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/3 "2007-12-06T16:31:48Z")
Yup me too! [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) makes me wired like total craziness wired then neural-transmitters go into overload and I need sleep. It’s not a bad crash and if I was taking an exam it would be perfect for it. P74 + exam + A (4.0) then SteveO nappy nap time for an hour then go out and celebrate. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2007, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/4 "2007-12-09T23:43:25Z")
Continuing on. Yesterday wore a spray of 203 to a party. took a bottle of 74 (25mcg) and 83(12.5mcg) with in my pocket as backups. the 203 Generally made me feel real well, Got a couple of decent hits off of it, lots of flirty eyes, but the smell was making me feel really self conscious. One friend complained of a chemical smell when near me, and another seemed to drift in and out of feeling somewhat sick. He was better after it had died down a bit. I tried to correlate some of the interactions with tater’s observations. Hair color is pretty much an impossible gauge, way too many dye jobs. Eye color might be helpful. seemed to work best on blue eyed people. after about three hours I decided to toss on some 74,83. I put like 5 sprays of the 83 and 1 of the 74. Instantly felt a lot more energetic. Not even 5 minutes go by and a girl comes up to me “Do I know you from somewhere?” Ends up telling me I have a really cool name and gives me a really big hug “You smell really nice.” Never met or seen this girl in my life (pretty cute one, and I’ve got a great memory for faces). Pretty much the most blatant hit I’ve gotten thus far, too bad the guy standing behind her was probably her boyfriend. Walking around and another girl comes up to me right out of the blue “Do I know you from somewhere?” Shit DejaVu. 🙂 This girl I’ve seen around at several parties, and a concert or two, so this one wasn’t completely off base. However, the interaction was totally out of the blue, never came up to me before, and she didn’t have any reason to do so at the moment. About an hour later, for some dumb reason I decide to use another shot of 74, and who knows what of 83 (i’d guess two or three). By this time I’m a bit drunk, and loud noises + large groups of people tend to overload my senses. I get into the sort of mood where I can’t stand in one place for very long. Quite the opposite of what you want to do with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), and pretty dumb and wasteful of me. Don’t make drunken decisions folks. However, the attention I got was vaguely palpable. I’d walk around the party and people would glance my way as I passed (by this time, the house was so packed that you pretty much had to push people out of the way to get anywhere). Tried to start a “fight” with a guy outside for throwing a snowball at me. I was kinda “busting-his-balls” about it, and generally being an ass. While I didn’t mean it in a harmful way, it was totally not my style. The guy could have probably taken me, but seemed to cower very apologetic like. Moral of the story- p74 = good stuff p83 = good stuff mx203 = too many negatives immediately after application. the scent seems particularly non-purfumey smelling. Much more generally useful and subtle after about two hours. Very specific targeting. be careful not to get carried away while drinking. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 3:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/5 "2007-12-10T03:54:23Z")
Marty, anything you can remember about [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/) would be very useful. If it didnt make people sick, it would be much more useful. I also noticed that i became more sick around food and that the scent seemed similar to MX252 which had a similar effect on me and others. MX203 had blonde/blue women leaning over counters to get in my face, but also had waitresses of other eye and hair colors standing at a distance and obviously struggling to be polite, lest they HURL. And every once in a while, i thought i was going to wretch too. i would like to hear about your MX204 experiences too. I need to ask Jasmin whether the MX252 she sent me had a different fragrance than what others got. It didnt seem feminine at all to me. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/6 "2007-12-14T06:02:22Z")
Final exams this week, so have been fairly phero free. I can’t recall anything else right off the bat with 203. It generally doesn’t make me feel sick outright, I guess I fall into the “target audience” (blondish blue-eyed). the scent isn’t really a fav of mine, However, I didn’t really dig the scent of ammo either. Had some great hits with A314 at work today. Two shots of ishine along with 4 drops of a314. good interactions with cowokers, but the most obvious was with middle management. Had a very nice long conversation with a lady while I fixed her computer. Fairly interesting because most people will usually just skip out of the room with a smile and a “let me know when it’s done.” And again later, one of the ladies who is usually of the type hurry-up-I-don’t-have-time-for-you was alot more friendly than usual. ---
**Author:** ![Smudge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@Smudge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smudge)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/7 "2007-12-14T07:51:01Z")
Don’t you just love the A314 & TAA combo. Works wonders. Pitty about its smell. Re [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/): my home brew MX203 has never caused any problems for me, and I have brown eyes. Only heaven knows why. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 8:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/8 "2007-12-14T08:34:55Z")
> [@Smudge](#): > > Don’t you just love the A314 & TAA combo. Works wonders. Pitty about its smell. > > Re MX203: my home brew MX203 has never caused any problems for me, and I have brown eyes. Only heaven knows why. Funny you should mention it. I plan to try heavy TAA/heavy A314 tomorrow. How do others respond to you when wearing [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/)? Call it a hunch, but Tater seems to have the negative reaction to MX203 when around food. Anything slightly nasty looking and MX203 takes it to another level. Im wondering if theres some scent of bad food trigger. ---
**Author:** ![Smudge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@Smudge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smudge)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 9:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/9 "2007-12-14T09:53:52Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Funny you should mention it. I plan to try heavy TAA/heavy A314 tomorrow. > > How do others respond to you when wearing MX203? Call it a hunch, but Tater seems to have the negative reaction to MX203 when around food. Anything slightly nasty looking and MX203 takes it to another level. Im wondering if theres some scent of bad food trigger. The reactions to my home brew 203 have been neutral at worst. Most are shocklingly positive. I have never had anyone puke at me with it, if that’s what you are asking 😃. Sorry, can’t help you. Maybe I just don’t smell naturally edible to others. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 10:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/10 "2007-12-15T22:50:41Z")
I think heavy taa makes me want to hug people. I noticed this the last couple times out, and it’s gotta be the taa. could possibly be alpha androstenol, but I haven’t noticed the effect when wearing straight IO. show last night, I had on shine mixed with a314 and io. hugs. last time i wore mx203, hugs. very cheerful and bubbly. Also, just tried two shots to test mx204 (supposedly TAK in a neroli spray). Seems to slowly be draining the stress out of the day. I seem more relaxed, but also almost sleepy. I might take a nap. Probably going to base a mix of it for tonight. I’m aiming for super relaxed and cheerful, so I’m thinking the following: 2xmx204, 3xshine, 4xIO. Going to take [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) with for it’s “pick-me-up” quality in case I feel too drained. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2007, 12:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/11 "2007-12-16T00:56:47Z")
Great reporting marty, and reps to you. Keep it up. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/12 "2007-12-16T16:32:53Z")
mk204 seems to have a demotivating factor to it. Didn’t feel like going through the hassle of “going out”, so I called it an early night, read a book, then got some great sleep. Can’t remember the last time I slept so good. So if you want to test out the relaxing affect on other people, you might want to make sure you can get yourself out of the house first. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2007, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/13 "2007-12-16T18:37:17Z")
I got a similar effect with MX264. I actually used it the other night before going to sleep as a sleep aid. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/14 "2007-12-19T23:43:53Z")
I’d say that using more than a single spray of mx204 is overkill, unless you are specifically trying to go to sleep. Tried mixing it with a few sprays of shine, io, and a314. 2x 204, 3x is, 3x io, 2 drops alpha. People around me were friendly and chatty, but I didn’t really feel into any of the conversations. I felt it completely killed the IO self-effect. I kept thinking “this person talks too much” “that person talks to much.” Has anyone had success mixing this stuff to benefit a mix? It generally lightens the mood, but not really in the way I’d like. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/15 "2007-12-23T18:24:02Z")
1 spray [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) to left wrist, rubbed wrists together, dabbed onto neck. 1 spray p83 at 12.5 mcg. 1 spray p74 at 25 mcg. A nice pleasant combo that was chatty and fun without being overbearing. Definitely seemed more the center of attention of my female friends, and probably a few interested looks from around the bar. Like a socially friendly DHV. Didn’t notice any sexual attraction, but all the people I was hanging out with were in serious-meaningful-relationships. Rubbing the 203 into several spots reduced the in-your-face quality of the mix, and I didn’t notice any negative reactions. Got a free beer from the bartender. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/16 "2007-12-31T19:18:01Z")
The big Sheebang. Aim High, and beware of a long fall. New Years is a tricky beast to plan. I’m trying to create something warm and friendly and inviting (kind of a theme with me, never leave anyone out). So I’m trying to plan around my friends prior reactions. So instantly I have to axe MX203 due to more than a few negs. It’s a shame, it’s really growing on me, but I find I can only use it with certain groups of people. Plan of action: 4-5x [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), 4-5x Instant Shine, 2-3x IFM, 1x P74 @25 (to be reapplied every 2-3 hours, or when tiring out), 2x P83 @12.5 (to be reapplied every hour to ramp the effect). I’ve got very little 83 left, so might as well use it right. I find that I get very good results out of IShine and IO when I spray them to the upper part of my chest. That way they leak out, but subtly. A bit on the neck is fine, but I find that putting too much there doesn’t help much. Maybe because it’s not natural for tons of pheros to be sitting there? I can’t be sure though ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 1:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/17 "2008-01-01T01:11:55Z")
> [@martyk](#): > > The big Sheebang. Aim High, and beware of a long fall. > > New Years is a tricky beast to plan. I’m trying to create something warm and friendly and inviting (kind of a theme with me, never leave anyone out). So I’m trying to plan around my friends prior reactions. **So instantly I have to axe MX203 due to more than a few negs. It’s a shame, it’s really growing on me, but I find I can only use it with certain groups of people.** > > Plan of action: 4-5x Instant Openness, 4-5x Instant Shine, 2-3x Instant Female Magic, 1x P74 @25 (to be reapplied every 2-3 hours, or when tiring out), 2x P83 @12.5 (to be reapplied every hour to ramp the effect). I’ve got very little 83 left, so might as well use it right. I find that I get very good results out of Instant Shine and Instant Openness when I spray them to the upper part of my chest. That way they leak out, but subtly. A bit on the neck is fine, but I find that putting too much there doesn’t help much. Maybe because it’s not natural for tons of pheros to be sitting there? I can’t be sure though Martyk want kind of negatives are you talking about here with [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/)? As in a repelling effect on non-caucasian females? If so, do you feel P83 helps to offset against this repelling effect on non-caucasian females that MX203 may bring with it? Cool journal by the way! Thanks in advance, Visionary. ---
**Author:** ![Patratt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/patratt/32/971_2.png) [@Patratt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Patratt)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 9:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/18 "2008-01-01T09:17:58Z")
Keep us posted with your results on [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/). This is currently the one I am most interested in. ---
**Author:** ![Shap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Shap](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Shap)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 9:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/19 "2008-01-01T09:57:16Z")
> [@Patratt](#): > > Keep us posted with your results on MX203. This is currently the one I am most interested in. I’m ordering it soon 😃 ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162/20 "2008-01-01T22:27:17Z")
One of my friends got very ill hanging around me when I was wearing it, and another complained of a strong “chemical” smell near me. So as a courtesy I avoided it. I haven’t mixed 203 and 83 enough to evaluate that point, and I’m just about out of 83. Will definitely be reordering it. Last night was very successful. I was getting consistent hits all night, and was having a great time. It was very easy to start conversations with strangers, and I was getting some really obvious 83-type hits. I don’t think I’ve ever had girls competing for my attention before. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/martyks-notes/7162.md?page=2)