# Massage Therapy & Pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 9, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/massage-therapy-pheromones/30553 "2009-07-09T22:01:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![typci](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/typci/32/282_2.png) [@typci](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/typci)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/massage-therapy-pheromones/30553/1 "2009-07-09T22:01:15Z")
I’m a male massage therapist looking to use [pheromones](https://a314.com/) in my massage practice. Since 90+% of my clients are female, I figure you ladies would be best to recomend products. The results I’m looking for is something that helps you to relax, feel good and feel like a woman. I have a lot of business women and housewives who get so stressed out from work, children & husbands, and they come to me for a release from the world. I also have a lot of clients who are new to massage and are a bit nervous. So maybe something to help them relax and feel more comfortable. Additionally, any info on where to apply the pheromones: on the sheets, on me, in the air, mix into the lotion? Finally, let’s set one thing straight so there is no confusion: I do not mix business and pleasure. I’m not looking to “stimulate” my clients. It causes serious problems and affects my paycheck. On that note, if there are any products I should avoid at work, let me know as well. I take pride in my work, and want to provide the best possible experience for my clients. Thanks for your help. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/massage-therapy-pheromones/30553/2 "2009-07-09T22:51:50Z")
> [@typci](#): > > I’m a male massage therapist looking to use pheromones in my massage practice. Since 90+% of my clients are female, I figure you ladies would be best to recomend products. > The results I’m looking for is something that helps you to relax, feel good and feel like a woman. I have a lot of business women and housewives who get so stressed out from work, children & husbands, and they come to me for a release from the world. > I also have a lot of clients who are new to massage and are a bit nervous. So maybe something to help them relax and feel more comfortable. > Additionally, any info on where to apply the pheromones: on the sheets, on me, in the air, mix into the lotion? > Finally, let’s set one thing straight so there is no confusion: I do not mix business and pleasure. I’m not looking to “stimulate” my clients. It causes serious problems and affects my paycheck. On that note, if there are any products I should avoid at work, let me know as well. > I take pride in my work, and want to provide the best possible experience for my clients. Thanks for your help. A lot of the pheromones are relaxing. My top list would be Beta Androstenol - to promote trust P102 - mildly sedating - use very sparingly if your client has to drive P103 - ditto, same as for P102 I think you could use this on your sheets in a really diluted form as a sheet spray. You could also combine it with aromatherapy and put it in a diffuser, maybe with a little lavender scent. But, whatever you decide to use, be sure you subject yourself to it so you at least have an idea what it will do for your clients. Diane ---
**Author:** ![beeb\_davis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/beeb_davis/32/1198_2.png) [@beeb\_davis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/beeb_davis)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 7:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/massage-therapy-pheromones/30553/3 "2009-07-10T07:48:16Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > A lot of the pheromones are relaxing. My top list would be > > Beta Androstenol - to promote trust > P102 - mildly sedating - use very sparingly if your client has to drive > P103 - ditto, same as for P102 > > I think you could use this on your sheets in a really diluted form as a sheet spray. You could also combine it with aromatherapy and put it in a diffuser, maybe with a little lavender scent. > > But, whatever you decide to use, be sure you subject yourself to it so you at least have an idea what it will do for your clients. > > Diane I agree with you. but.. I would also recommend Female Magic to make girls more comfy with what your doing and Spaceland to relax them and space them out more. ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 2:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/massage-therapy-pheromones/30553/4 "2009-07-10T14:06:10Z")
I’m with diane on the bnol or instant honesty thought. P78 is a good happy spray for most of us girls but it CAN have a sexual effect on us it may be good for use in terms of lotions or what not for the ladies before they leave though. Ie a refreshing wake you up cuticle treatment or hand rub before they head out. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/massage-therapy-pheromones/30553/5 "2009-07-10T16:17:22Z")
**Instant Female Magic** for sure. You could wear that on yourself, it would be best not to diffuse it. Try it on yourself first, some men report unusual self effects, others nothing. Either way it will work great at making women comfortable around you. You could try **Instant Gentlemen** to give the vibe “I’m a professional, I will take care of you” there will be no sexual vibe to this. Women will find you charming. **Instant Shine** will put everyone in a good mood. A light euphoria can be really good, and it can induce really enjoyable thoughts in silence. **Instant Honesty** I would highly recommend. YMMV (Your mileage may vary) but I have observed that it will make them more comfortable with their inner world and yours. Electra has also reported it makes people snuggly, which I agree with. I would not recommend Spaceland or Instant Openness, as both of these could make you get taken less seriously. It depends if you enjoy talking or silence. ---
**Author:** ![typci](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/typci/32/282_2.png) [@typci](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/typci)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/massage-therapy-pheromones/30553/6 "2009-07-10T17:02:17Z")
I just placed an order. They were out of instant female magic, so I will order that when it comes in. I don’t think I need instant gentleman. I’m very attractive, dress very stylish & professional, have a very soothing & comforting voice and already come off as a gentleman. What i did get: Come talk to me Spaceland Instant shine [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) Instant Openess Instant Sexiness (both A&B) Although no one recommended it, I have a feeling Instant Sexiness may work wonders. I do very sensual work on a lot of clients and I want them to leave feeling very relaxed, sexy & confident. Many clients have told me I make them feel like a “woman”. The Instant Sexiness will also be a good self-esteem boost for the girls who come in for body wraps, cellulite reduction & pre-pagent preparation. I plan to order some of the p78, P102 & P103 with the Instant female magic. But I wanted to play with some of the basics to get an idea of what exactly is going on with the pheromones. I’ll just try each one, and start a journal. Hopefully I’ll get to the point where I can pick and choose for each client. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/massage-therapy-pheromones/30553/7 "2009-07-11T01:21:04Z")
As a male client getting a massage from a female massage therapist, I found that TAH and TAL (major components of Instant Sexiness) were _very helpful_, in small amounts. ---
**Author:** ![typci](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/typci/32/282_2.png) [@typci](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/typci)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/massage-therapy-pheromones/30553/8 "2009-07-11T02:43:57Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > As a male client getting a massage from a female massage therapist, I found that TAH and TAL (major components of Instant Sexiness) were _very helpful_, in small amounts. Could you elaborate some more? I have a female therapist I go see. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/massage-therapy-pheromones/30553/9 "2009-07-11T06:11:05Z")
Here are some of the places I discussed it: [massage therapist help](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/massage-therapist-help/25115) > [@Why do some men use womens pheromones?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-do-some-men-use-womens-pheromones/15719): > > The men’s [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are working great for me, but I’m always open to try new ideas. It’s been mentioned before that some men use womens products in their mixes. I’m just curious, whah products do you use and what effects do you get from them? > [@Pre-op Rapunzel](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pre-op-rapunzel/14594): > > First I want to point out that this is all Tisha’s fault. Encouraging me to experiment with new pheromones is like throwing gasoline on an out-of-control blaze. I mixed more new things together here than I probably should have, but I got some interesting results. It was my intention to experiment with TAH. I have learned what to expect from TAL, but I have never noticed anything from the small amounts of TAH I have used. From my 2.5mcg bottles I used three sprays of TAL and twice as much (six s… But, to recap, I usually describe TAL/TAH as making me one of the sorority . Women just treat me like one of their sisters. That male-female tension seems to just go away. The best I can tell, in small amounts, TAL/TAH do not make me seem effeminate or gay or anything. Tisha says it adds a princely quality. I would tend to agree. Now, this would generally be in combination with some more masculine pheromones. I usually wear A314. I take a bottle of 2.5mcg TAH and mix it with a bottle of 2.5mcg TAL. I then have a mix which consists of 1.25mcg each TAH and TAL in each spray. Three sprays works well for me. That’s 3.75mcg each TAL and TAH. For a massage with a female therapist, I might use four sprays. I think that TAA (or Instant Shine) is also particularly helpful. It reduces personal space. That helps eliminate the sense of inappropriateness that tends to go with touching a stranger. SoE and/or TAF directly on the sore muscles seems to focus the massage therapist’s attention there without being told. Seriously. This one very good massage therapist spent the whole hour (deeply) massaging my TAF anointed left shoulder before she checked the clock and was shocked to see the whole hour was already gone! (She had told me she intended to focus that session on my legs, but she never got there.) ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 9:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/massage-therapy-pheromones/30553/10 "2009-07-11T09:33:42Z")
From what you do have I would use spaceland and Instand Honesty. Spaceland for relaxation and IH for trust. IShine is also good for overall happiness. Might be good to spray some on the tip jar if you have one hehe ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/massage-therapy-pheromones/30553/11 "2009-07-11T15:31:53Z")
You should note that [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) has been out of stock for ages, and it’s very low priority to come back. So don’t hold your breath waiting for it. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/massage-therapy-pheromones/30553/12 "2010-01-02T15:26:57Z")
Is IFM still out of stock? Anyway I went to have a massage at a chinese place, and first rubbed SOE all over me.. it makes the masseuse rub all those painful muscles even more 🙂 as Warren said! I really think SOE is the thing to use when the therapist is asian.