# Maybe I'm asking for the impossible.... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 25, 2007, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-im-asking-for-the-impossible/5708 "2007-09-25T17:11:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![phatpat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba8739/32.png) [@phatpat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phatpat)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-im-asking-for-the-impossible/5708/1 "2007-09-25T17:11:34Z")
**I was wondering if there’s a phero that attracts both men and women. I’m bisexual, and would enjoy attention from either sex. It might be impossible , but just thouhgt I’d ask.** ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 5:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-im-asking-for-the-impossible/5708/2 "2007-09-25T17:51:00Z")
Well I am not going to say its impossible but its new territory for alot of us in the forum. We do have a new girl who is transexual over in the ladies forum and we are working on trying to help her find whats right for her. I imagine being bisexual you may have alot more options with the products then most of us. I think products like the nols in CTTM2 IO IH are good options. Instant shine is a good option. These are more social mones then sexual ones. The best thing to do is to call Jasmin. She knows her stuff and will be able to help you. Numbers is at the very top of the forum. In the mean time here are some links to read that may give you some ideas. I know they dont all apply directly to your situation but they will lend some insite into which products may be best for you. > [@Can women attract other women with pheremones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-women-attract-other-women-with-pheremones/4114): > > Hello Ladies, I don’t know if this question has ever been asked. I 'm fairly new to pheremones. I have tried “Beaches” in the past . Got nice results with it. Seems I attracted men/women. However, what my real point is that I want to attract women ( don’t mind men being attracted) but my main goal is to attract the ladies! Do I use a product made for men? Or can I use a product that is made for women? Very confused… Any feedback would be really appreciated! slight_smile > [@Instant Sexiness used by men](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923): > > Have any men here used Isexi? I placed an order for ISexi mix A and am waiting eagerly for it to arrive. After reading many reports about men using TAH and TAL I figured ISexi A may be a good start as the ratio of TAH and TAL is optimized to increase female confidence and forwardness roll_eyes . I want to see what it does in combination with P79 which has worked very well for me in making women take a more active role stuck_out_tongue Also I remember Michael mentioned somewhere that all fe… After I read this one I was thinking you may want to try [Instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) A. > [@Bi-Sexual Girls](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bi-sexual-girls/771): > > I am wanting to attract bi-sexual girls. Which product(s) works best? Will copulins help? > [@Attracting gay and bi women: should a lesbian try EST or female pheromones?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-one-for-the-gay-community/5004): > > Hi, I’ve seen a few posts on here concerning gay men but little for gay women. I’m a tomboy am looking to attract gay females but i have no idea whether i should be buying the male [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) or the female ones. I’ve read some research and it suggests that gay men and heterosexual women react in a similar way to the male pheromone. Lesbians however do not respond to the female pheromone in the same way. Speaking for myself, i’m not often attracted to heterosexual women, except in rare cases,… > [@Women's Pheromones on Men to attract women?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-pheromones-on-men-to-attract-women/4790): > > I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this… First of all, I noticed that whenever I am seriously dating someone that other women seem to come on to me at those times more often than when I am single. This was highlighted by an incedent when I had this particular athletic girlfriend. She was an aerobics instructor and I was in school. Typically she would go to work and teach a class while I slept in -in her bed. One morning she came back and was particularly horny (probably in E… > [@I used mx102 to find out if my teacher was gay.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-used-mx102-to-find-out-if-my-teacher-was-gay/718): > > It was simple, i used mx102, walked up to my old teacher, he started hitting on me. He got close to me, started to star into my eyes, started to touch my shoulder. LOL, he is probably gay. I have heard that a314 or mx102 works great with gays. Ok now these should just give you some ideas. Like I said your situation is kinda new to alot of us when it comes to mones. Dont worry between the forum members and Jasmin we will find what will work for you. And think of it this way you get to be a pioneer in mones for all the bi’s that join the forum later down the road. 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-im-asking-for-the-impossible/5708/3 "2007-09-25T17:59:29Z")
i don’t know. i’m beginning to think that if you are a man you should jsut smell like an attractive man. then those people who find men attractive, whether straight, gay, bisexual, what have you, will be attracted to you. I’m basing this on the recent upswing in same sex hits i’ve been getting (i’m straight). I pretty much just smell super female. and it seems those who are attracted to females, or perhaps females like me, come my way, regardless of gender, sexual preference, etc. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-im-asking-for-the-impossible/5708/4 "2007-09-25T18:29:31Z")
You may be right nunya, I am thinking he has alot of good options with the products. Which ones do you feel will be the best? I am of course thinking the nols because both sexes react to the socials and of course shine. How about mystery boy? I know it is supposed to be for the gay scene which is different then being bi but it may work and he would get 4 free products with it to test out. That with maybe some nols. I think if he goes with the basic mens products he should try ammo tempered with IO and shine. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-im-asking-for-the-impossible/5708/5 "2007-09-25T18:35:18Z")
well i always go nol heavy. and then i combine with cops, and soemtimes TAL and soemtimes Edge, I’ve yet to try both. So Yeah - i would go with a heavy social to begin with. If people are attracted to you, and want to know about you - that will pull them in. And then a gender-specific phero (like cops+TAL for women, or [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) for men, as you said) on top of it. I think also if he’s looking to get sexual, a dab of soemthing with a strong sexual vibe (i’m not sure which of the men’s products act like that) will give those that are looking to get sexual the greenlight to go for it. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-im-asking-for-the-impossible/5708/6 "2007-09-25T19:45:58Z")
I agree with Nunya 100% here. I don’t believe in any pheromone that will attract people to another without it being natural to begin with. I have always said [pheromones](https://a314.com/) bring out the subtleties of attraction such as body-language hits, but don’t make someone more appealing if that person wasn’t appealing in the first place. You can’t take a hag and lay down some pheromones on her and expect that because she is wearing EOW you’d want to have sex with her. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-im-asking-for-the-impossible/5708/7 "2007-09-25T20:10:05Z")
This is very true Steveo. I dont think he is hoping to attract people that are not open or comfortable with being bisexual either. And to attract people there has to be… well attraction LOL. Once he does that he can discover there sexual preferance at his own pace. That being said, what do you think he should get products wise that will help ? > [@](#): > > And then a gender-specific phero (like cops+TAL for women, or Ammo for men, as you said) on top of it. My pick is simular to nunyas, Ammo and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) with a shot of Instant sexiness A which has both cops and TAL. This should cover all the bases. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-im-asking-for-the-impossible/5708/8 "2007-09-25T21:39:16Z")
I really am not sure here. On one point you want to attract women and that I would say Ammo is wonderful. On the other point you want to attract men and I just don’t have experience in that field. I would think maybe a custom blend of TAL, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), and possible masculine pheromone like -none in tiny quantity would work. I should be bottling this stuff! ---
**Author:** ![phatpat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba8739/32.png) [@phatpat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phatpat)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 9:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-im-asking-for-the-impossible/5708/9 "2007-09-26T09:17:22Z")
Thanks for all the great tips. I think I’m enthused to start experimenting. I’ll definitely update the forum if I create a platonic mix of pheros. Just keep on the look out! ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-im-asking-for-the-impossible/5708/10 "2007-09-26T14:12:00Z")
I think Nunya is right. Some of y’all are overcomplicating matters. He’s a man. He’s going to attract women who like men (and how men smell) and men who like men (and how men smell). He should just smell like a guy, albeit a superpherocloud guy … in other words, a bisexual (or gay) male can use the same pheros as a straight male. Just because he attracts men doesn’t mean he should smell like a woman - at least not _more so_ than any other funloving, pheroexperimenting guy.