# Maybe my workplace isnt conducive to phero testing :( **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 19, 2007, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224 "2007-04-19T16:35:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/1 "2007-04-19T16:35:23Z")
Phero effects are subtle yes? I have given up testing them on colleagues. Everyone is too stressed/crazy for me to actually discern any noticeable change in behaviour. What are others’ experiences with office pheros? ---
**Author:** ![Flip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/53a042/32.png) [@Flip](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Flip)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/2 "2007-04-19T17:05:47Z")
mine is greeeaaat as I work alone behind my pc in my room hehe… (not =/) ---
**Author:** ![Thalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f475e1/32.png) [@Thalion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thalion)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/3 "2007-04-19T17:16:42Z")
> [@fullmoonnow83](#): > > Phero effects are subtle yes? I have given up testing them on colleagues. Everyone is too stressed/crazy for me to actually discern any noticeable change in behaviour. > > What are others’ experiences with office pheros? Mine’s probably the same. Work with a bunch of married women and there is also usually a high stress level here. Or maybe I broke my [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/)… ---
**Author:** ![ash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@ash](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ash)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/4 "2007-04-19T17:35:05Z")
I work in a cube adjacent to an administrative assistant so I’ve had occasional luck with things wafting over the cube walls. She’s out this week and next week, so no recent testing though. Of course, I’ve mostly tested instant shine, but I have noticed stress tends to nullify it because some people seem to completely ignore it. ---
**Author:** ![Quixotic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/quixotic/32/1728_2.png) [@Quixotic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quixotic)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/5 "2007-04-19T20:16:46Z")
> [@fullmoonnow83](#): > > Phero effects are subtle yes? I have given up testing them on colleagues. Everyone is too stressed/crazy for me to actually discern any noticeable change in behaviour. > > What are others’ experiences with office pheros? I have an unusual and great place to test. I do it everyday. I do logistics and staging for Interior Designers, so needless to say I have a steady stream of Smart & Beautiful women coming through my office everyday. Because I am their point of contact, they must all interact w/ me to see what is going on. They don’t even know what hit them. Lots of DIHLs that is for sure. I find the best for work in my situation so far is: [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) x2 TAL x1 P79 x1 MX153 x2 or MX113 x2 Always, the TAL & P79 though. I put this on in the morning before getting on the train, so the application is usually a minimum of 2-3 hours old. My goal when testing is just to see what kind of subtle reactions I get, while keeping it professional, yet still a tad edgy. My next purchase will be A314 for sure though. ---
**Author:** ![Honeythief](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/honeythief/32/350_2.png) [@Honeythief](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Honeythief)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/6 "2007-04-19T21:14:58Z")
I work in an open-plan office with five other women and five men, and I have noticed absolutely zilch despite practically emptying two ToGo vials over the last three days ☹ I’m going to start another thread on that - maybe I’m doing it wrong - but I thought I would have noticed _something_. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/7 "2007-04-19T22:19:15Z")
There are about 75 people in my office. Most of them are guys. I think we have 15 girls. I interact with just about all of them at some point during the day. The building is small and not well ventilated its a great place to test. I also see alot of people when I am delivering the mail so I get to test a little on the road to. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Dancing\_Joker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dancing_joker/32/1924_2.png) [@Dancing\_Joker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dancing_Joker)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/8 "2007-04-20T03:36:50Z")
> [@ash](#): > > I work in a cube adjacent to an administrative assistant so I’ve had occasional luck with things wafting over the cube walls. She’s out this week and next week, so no recent testing though. Of course, I’ve mostly tested instant shine, but I have noticed stress tends to nullify it because some people seem to completely ignore it. Ash, that is so devious! 😮 😮 😮 I wish I had thought of that first 😛 (shush, Jaz!) 😉 I think you’ll notice better results when your “distractant” isn’t preoccupied with work or overly stressed. Wait until things in the office are slow and then try to do your testing … It definitely helps a lot. Also, think convection 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 3:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/9 "2007-04-20T03:49:58Z")
> [@fullmoonnow83](#): > > Phero effects are subtle yes? I have given up testing them on colleagues. Everyone is too stressed/crazy for me to actually discern any noticeable change in behaviour. > > What are others’ experiences with office pheros? I’ve noticed strong and obvious effects in the work setting. I see effects even when people are under stress. ---
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 11:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/10 "2007-04-20T11:04:31Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > I’ve noticed strong and obvious effects in the work setting. I see effects even when people are under stress. Ooh. details! I realise I just contradicted myself. I started another [thread](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx134-strange-response/3223) re. the effects of MX134 - I was being given a lot of complicated tasks way over the top of my head (not just monkey janitor work that they usually give junior staff) and people erm… overestimated my capacity sometimes which made it a bit funny. OD perhaps. 😃😃😃 Speaking of which, I tried p94 again. Same thing - felt organised and mentally sharp. Am still wide awake after a 12 hour shift and feel like I could go on working for another 6 hours with the same capacity. Stable version of speed in a bottle? I suppose I could just use the pheros for myself as opposed to checking people’s reactions… ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/11 "2007-04-20T15:18:07Z")
> [@fullmoonnow83](#): > > Ooh. details! > > I realise I just contradicted myself. I started another [thread](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx134-strange-response/3223) re. the effects of MX134 - I was being given a lot of complicated tasks way over the top of my head (not just monkey janitor work that they usually give junior staff) and people erm… overestimated my capacity sometimes which made it a bit funny. OD perhaps. 😃😃😃 > > Speaking of which, I tried p94 again. Same thing - felt organised and mentally sharp. Am still wide awake after a 12 hour shift and feel like I could go on working for another 6 hours with the same capacity. Stable version of speed in a bottle? > > I suppose I could just use the pheros for myself as opposed to checking people’s reactions… Effects are numerous- you recounted some yourself in the thread you mentioned. among those I’ve found useful - shine/ih/io - opening up meetings and getting conversations going shine/a314/ih - establishing confidence and trust with those above in the pecking order, also turning around hostility/agression from peers In reference to your experience - people are displaying confidence in you. If you don’t know how to do something or need some additional skills, just say “I’ll need xx on my team because he has the skills to yy.” They’ll quite likely give you the resources you need and expect you to take care of getting the job done. Otherwise just come out and say that you need someone to show you the ropes on the skill you’re currently missing. ---
**Author:** ![tomboy05](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tomboy05/32/2320_2.png) [@tomboy05](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tomboy05)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/12 "2007-04-20T22:32:49Z")
> [@fullmoonnow83](#): > > Speaking of which, I tried p94 again. Same thing - felt organised and mentally sharp. Am still wide awake after a 12 hour shift and feel like I could go on working for another 6 hours with the same capacity. Stable version of speed in a bottle? Hmmm. . . looks like p94 is going on my shopping list. . . ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 8:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/13 "2007-04-21T08:12:13Z")
I work in an ideal test environment: college campus. Testing on colleagues is kinda a drag, but testing on my students can be a real blast. The young folk have less life experience and tend to be more “honest” in their reactions. Plus there is a never ending flow of test subjects in a wide variety of situations (office, stage, class, practice studios, small groups, large groups, etc.). This environment allows me to test dosage and mixes rapidly and make adjustments day by day. Of course there are occasional side effects: once in a while I frighten my students (OD) or a coed gets the hots for me (been stalked!), but it goes with the territory. It sure beats testing in clubs or shopping malls! ---
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 8:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/14 "2007-04-21T08:53:38Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I work in an ideal test environment: college campus. Testing on colleagues is kinda a drag, but testing on my students can be a real blast. The young folk have less life experience and tend to be more “honest” in their reactions. Plus there is a never ending flow of test subjects in a wide variety of situations (office, stage, class, practice studios, small groups, large groups, etc.). This environment allows me to test dosage and mixes rapidly and make adjustments day by day. Of course there are occasional side effects: once in a while I frighten my students (OD) or a coed gets the hots for me (been stalked!), but it goes with the territory. It sure beats testing in clubs or shopping malls! Oi damn, I want your job. What happens when you frighten your students? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 9:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/15 "2007-04-21T09:19:07Z")
> [@](#): > > Oi damn, I want your job. What happens when you frighten your students? A really good androstenone OD causes young women to fidget like they need to pee badly. Some get cold hands and perspire heavily. Other tremble and choke up. Some all of the above. I’ve seen in when I walk near them in class or when they visit in my office. Oddly, after a few weeks they figure out they’re safe, get used to it and become emboldened, even aggressive when I wear high levels of androstenone. My stalker started with daily office visits, escalated to erotic emails and phone calls in a couple weeks and eventually started sitting in all my classes, flashing and waiting for me at every nook and crannie. ---
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 12:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/maybe-my-workplace-isnt-conducive-to-phero-testing/3224/16 "2007-04-21T12:47:54Z")
Used it again today. Wind down - slept for 3 hours when my head hit the pillow so although you feel as if you can go on working, you’re actually TIRED. 😃 Time to get dinner. > [@tomboy05](#): > > Hmmm. . . looks like p94 is going on my shopping list. . .