# Measuring pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 22, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/measuring-pheromones/23150 "2008-11-22T01:06:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Glorbon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/278dde/32.png) [@Glorbon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Glorbon)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/measuring-pheromones/23150/1 "2008-11-22T01:06:59Z")
Alright this might be a stupid question already covered but still.. I have been checking out this mix **ICM 0.25.1b** [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) 4 mcg per spray Beta Androstenol 5 mcg per spray [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) 3 mcg per spray [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) 5 mcg per spray [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) 5 mcg per spray And i’m planning on getting the pheros for it to try it out so i’m wondering how the mixing should be done? I mean you can’t order 4 Mcg of TAA or 3 MCG of [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/).. So how do i mix theese to the right ammount and what tool should i use when i mix it? Cheers m8s ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/measuring-pheromones/23150/2 "2008-11-22T02:20:19Z")
What a some of us do is purchase 30 ml bottles of the various products at 30 mcg strength. That way 1 ml is 1 mcg and you just put all this i an old 30 ml blue bottle you have cleaned out well. How you do it - some use pipettes. I use a graduated medicine dropper. ---
**Author:** ![Glorbon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/278dde/32.png) [@Glorbon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Glorbon)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 11:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/measuring-pheromones/23150/3 "2008-11-22T11:32:50Z")
alright this might be just me math failing but as you count the pheros per spray.. Isn’t 1 ml of a 30 mcg per spray still 30 mcg per spray? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 12:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/measuring-pheromones/23150/4 "2008-11-22T12:03:34Z")
That would be correct, I hate math but I went over it in detail somewhere in here. There is a few posts on this with calculations. Look at posts by Dancingjoker. You can do a search on them or when I get home from work I will look them up for yiu and provide the links here. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Glorbon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/278dde/32.png) [@Glorbon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Glorbon)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 12:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/measuring-pheromones/23150/5 "2008-11-22T12:13:10Z")
Thanks tisha your an angel btw this Daningjoker guy does not seem to exist :S ---
**Author:** ![Glorbon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/278dde/32.png) [@Glorbon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Glorbon)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/measuring-pheromones/23150/6 "2008-11-22T23:48:44Z")
hmm well i could not find any other posts on this topic :S Maybe im just a bad searcher.. Any1 here good at maths? ---
**Author:** ![Glorbon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/278dde/32.png) [@Glorbon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Glorbon)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2008, 1:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/measuring-pheromones/23150/7 "2008-11-23T01:12:36Z")
Alright sorry for spamming this thread but i did some calcualtions myself and well.. I’m wondering if this could be right.- As you all know this is how many Mcg:s of each [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) i should get from one spray [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) 4 mcg per spray Beta Androstenol 5 mcg per spray [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) 3 mcg per spray [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) 5 mcg per spray [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) 5 mcg per spray Alright so if i’m mixing in [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) 20 mcg per spray Beta Androstenol 25 mcg per spray [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) 15 mcg per spray [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) 25 mcg per spray [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) 25 mcg per spray in 1:1:1:1:1 rations.. Will it be the same then? ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2008, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/measuring-pheromones/23150/8 "2008-11-23T01:29:51Z")
Okay - I am getting lost in the math now … lol. Its Dancing Joker - look in the mens journals - he has one there. Yes it is still 30 mcg in 1 ml but when you put in x ml of each component (at a 30 mcg concentration) each spray should come out with the right proportion of the mix, right? ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2008, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/measuring-pheromones/23150/9 "2008-11-23T16:00:02Z")
Dancing Joker’s posts on mixing math… > [@When Mixing Your Pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-mixing-your-pheromones/2834/26): > > I think the confusion here is the type of mixes being discussed. As the first and following posts of this thread indicate, the topic in question is mixing components together in a bottle and juggling the concentrations and amounts needed to produce a mix with a specific yield of each component per spray. I believe what you’re commenting about is more towards applying individual components separately by either spray, dab, or drop from a bottle. If I were to try to apply a drop of 5000 mcg/ml … > [@Homebrew Mixes?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/homebrew-mixes/16722/6): > > I posted a discussion about mixing concentrations a while ago: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-mixing-your-pheromones/2834/26](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-mixing-your-pheromones/2834/26) You can use either EtOH or DPG as a dilutent depending on the duration of effects that you’re looking for. Using more EtOH results in a faster diffusing mix that has more immediate effects, whereas using more DPG results in a slower diffusing mix that has effects accumulate over time. You can adjust the ratio of EtOH to DPG to adapt your mixes to the desired effecti… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2008, 4:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/measuring-pheromones/23150/10 "2008-11-23T16:04:35Z")
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**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 5:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/measuring-pheromones/23150/11 "2008-11-24T05:12:49Z")
. > [@Glorbon](#): > > Alright so if i’m mixing in > > TAA 20 mcg per spray > Beta Androstenol 25 mcg per spray > P93 15 mcg per spray > P74 25 mcg per spray > P83 25 mcg per spray > > in 1:1:1:1:1 rations.. Will it be the same then? THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT. I like to make a table like this – it makes more complex mixes easier to manipulate: dose ph conc spray 5x ml ## 4mcg TAA 20mcg 1/5 01 06 5mcg Bet 25mcg 1/5 01 06 3mcg P93 15mcg 1/5 01 06 5mcg P74 25mcg 1/5 01 06 5mcg P83 25mcg 1/5 01 06 xxxx xxx xxxxx 001 05 30 This text editor makes it impossible to create a nice looking chart no matter _which_ font you use. Damnit! 😠 The first column is the dose. The second column is the pheromone. The third column is the cocentration of the bottle I’m mixing from. The fourth column is the theoretical number of sprays of concentrate per dose. The column four total is the number of sprays of the mix per dose. The fifth column is the number of theoretical sprays of concentrate per five doses. Why five? You have to complete column four before doing column five. Five doses is like a common denominator and gives you whole numbers easy to work with. If you had a column four with 1/5 and 1/10, you might use 10 doses for column five. I typically run into 1/2 and 1/4 in column four so I use 4 doses for column five. You have to complete column five before doing column 6. Column six values are a multiple of the column five values. Here they are each six times the value in column five. Using six times gives you 30ml total which is the size of a regular spray bottle. If you wanted to make two bottles then you would use a multiple of 12 to create column six and the total would be 60. For a 5ml togo bottle you’d use a multiple of one and column five and six would have the same numbers. But remember a togo spray is 5/6 or .833 times the size of a regular spray. The total of column four gives you 1 spray per dose. You’d have to adjust that to 1.20 sprays per dose if you pour it into a togo bottle. Of course, if your concentrates are from togo bottles, it will all work out and you’ll have to recalculate in the opposite direction if you pour it into a 30ml spray bottle (i.e. the 30ml bottle dose would become 5/6 of a spray).