# Meeting old flame, would like to "cook" her **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 26, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276 "2008-12-26T20:54:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TroubleSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@TroubleSome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TroubleSome)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/1 "2008-12-26T20:54:47Z")
Hey guys, first of all, i’m totally new to this, although i was aware what [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) are and their subliminal, primate powers, i’ve always believed that scents claiming those powers were just a sham, until i’ve reached this site and read yours posts! So now, to try this (i’ve been mostly converted, but my journalism nose is still sceptical) i’m ordering the on-the-go sizes of Standard Ammo and TUTH. 🙂 Now the main problem to solve for the more experienced here. 😃 I’ve had a call from an old flame, and she’s going to be in town soon. Now, i must say that, admittedly, we still are sexually attracted to each other, last time we met, a year ago, you could cut the sexual tension with a knife. I made a move then, a she just bolted half-way into it 🙄 Anyways, things have changed now. I’m in a serious LTR and not planning on cheating or having sex with her. I would just like to “fry” her brains 😃 you know, 2-part revenge motivated, 1-part flirting. From what i’ve been reading here, i thought that two sprays of Ammo on the wrist, along with 1 TUTH on the chest would do the trick. What do you say? My vital stats, Male, 30 y.o., A+ bloodtype, white ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/2 "2008-12-26T22:23:24Z")
You’ve done your homework so you know that is as good a guess as any if you don’t know your own sweet spots or her “reactibility”. Having the TUTH on your chest is going to make her have to get very close to you for it to be effective unless you are going barechested. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![TroubleSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@TroubleSome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TroubleSome)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/3 "2008-12-26T22:34:38Z")
> [@renny](#): > > You’ve done your homework so you know that is as good a guess as any if you don’t know your own sweet spots or her “reactibility”. Having the TUTH on your chest is going to make her have to get very close to you for it to be effective unless you are going barechested. Good luck! LoL @ idea of going barechested But that said, would you think it would work fine if sprayed on front of neck or would that make her too aggressive? ---
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/4 "2008-12-27T02:45:34Z")
Be careful, especially wearing [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/). Or you’ll end up screwing her brains out, messing up your LTR and regretting it very much the next morning. Pheromones have self-effects too. ---
**Author:** ![LaPew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lapew/32/330_2.png) [@LaPew](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaPew)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 2:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/5 "2008-12-27T02:55:53Z")
I’d swap one of those -none products for a social like a [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) or IO. Because if you really want to get to her then comfort + tension is the best route. Not to mention the benefit of having two different types of pheromone combos to play with. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/6 "2008-12-27T09:40:24Z")
Everyime I read the thread title all I can think of is: https://www.youtube.com/embed/BjGpcEA-FyE?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/7 "2008-12-27T09:45:05Z")
I vote for SD-31 on this call. You’ll find the formula in my “Liquid Lust” thread on the last page, or the next to last page. SD-31 does a fine job of arousing them, making them comfortable and getting them to act on it. The only problem is that I haven’t quite worked out how to keep it from making me get hit by the [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) just yet. lol However… it has produced great results each time I have used it. ---
**Author:** ![TroubleSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@TroubleSome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TroubleSome)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 10:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/8 "2008-12-27T10:40:56Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Everyime I read the thread title all I can think of is: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjGpcEA-FyE](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjGpcEA-FyE) hahahahaha fuckin hell man! that was cold and sick loooool but i have myself to blame! cook was a tad bit of an overstatement perhaps 😛 ---
**Author:** ![TroubleSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@TroubleSome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TroubleSome)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 10:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/9 "2008-12-27T10:46:53Z")
> [@LaPew](#): > > I’d swap one of those -none products for a social like a Instant Shine or IO. Because if you really want to get to her then comfort + tension is the best route. > Not to mention the benefit of having two different types of pheromone combos to play with. hmmmm but we’re already on good terms speaking of socializing together, and i’m already kind of an upbeat joker. wouldn’t it be better to use TUTH in small dosage just to prime her? I mean considering last time, sexual tension was not an issue, the issue is that she’s always so much in control of her instincts 😠 like last yearr she stopped in the midst of it citing her relationship! Considering my serious commitment this time, i don’t want to do anything with her really, just tease the hell out of her! What do you reckon? ---
**Author:** ![TroubleSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@TroubleSome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TroubleSome)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/10 "2008-12-27T11:17:41Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I vote for SD-31 on this call. You’ll find the formula in my “Liquid Lust” thread on the last page, or the next to last page. > > SD-31 does a fine job of arousing them, making them comfortable and getting them to act on it. The only problem is that I haven’t quite worked out how to keep it from making me get hit by the Instant Honesty just yet. lol > > However… it has produced great results each time I have used it. Oh man! i feel intimidated by pheromones just by reading your Liquid Lust posts, the ingredients u use and the experiments u conduct. It’s waaaaay over my head at this point. There is no question about it, you know what you’re doing. I, on the other hand, still a simple apprentice ☹ ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 11:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/11 "2008-12-27T11:25:04Z")
> [@Universal Anarchist](#): > > > [@catlord17](#): > > > > I vote for SD-31 on this call. You’ll find the formula in my “Liquid Lust” thread on the last page, or the next to last page. > > > > SD-31 does a fine job of arousing them, making them comfortable and getting them to act on it. The only problem is that I haven’t quite worked out how to keep it from making me get hit by the Instant Honesty just yet. lol > > > > However… it has produced great results each time I have used it. > > Oh man! i feel intimidated by pheromones just by reading your Liquid Lust posts, the ingredients u use and the experiments u conduct. It’s waaaaay over my head at this point. > There is no question about it, you know what you’re doing. I, on the other hand, still a simple apprentice ☹ LOL Sorry. Didn’t mean to intimidate. ---
**Author:** ![LaPew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lapew/32/330_2.png) [@LaPew](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaPew)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 11:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/12 "2008-12-27T11:53:11Z")
> [@Universal Anarchist](#): > > hmmmm but we’re already on good terms speaking of socializing together, and i’m already kind of an upbeat joker. > wouldn’t it be better to use TUTH in small dosage just to prime her? I mean considering last time, sexual tension was not an issue, the issue is that she’s always so much in control of her instincts 😠 like last yearr she stopped in the midst of it citing her relationship! > Considering my serious commitment this time, i don’t want to do anything with her really, just tease the hell out of her! > What do you reckon? The route to arousal for most women goes through the emotional. Products like [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), IO, and on a deeper level IH, help you greatly in that respect. So while we tend to think in terms of ‘damn she’s attractive, lets go’ women need more foreplay so to speak. TUTH shares a main component with Ammo therefore it’s my belief that both together are at best redundant, and at worst counterproductive. Believe me the best way to really bring her to a bedeviling boil is through the mind as well as the body. Steve (with an missing O?) could better elaborate on this. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 5:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/13 "2008-12-27T17:21:46Z")
> [@Universal Anarchist](#): > > hmmmm but we’re already on good terms speaking of socializing together, and i’m already kind of an upbeat joker. > wouldn’t it be better to use TUTH in small dosage just to prime her? I mean considering last time, sexual tension was not an issue, the issue is that she’s always so much in control of her instincts 😠 like last yearr she stopped in the midst of it citing her relationship! > Considering my serious commitment this time, i don’t want to do anything with her really, just tease the hell out of her! > What do you reckon? La Pew brings up a good point that is often missed. The -nols like IO and IH get a lot of press about their ability to help foster communication. The basis that this stems from is that they stimulate EMOTIONS. TUTH may cause arousal but if the arousal isn’t combined with an emotional attachment the regret at not being able to “do you” is unlikely to follow. AMMO combines -none, a-nol, and androsterone (we think). So you have arousal combined with positive emotion and masculine safety (simplified but illustrative). Adding more -none (TUTH) should amp the arousal, but adding more -nol would amp the emotion. Without knowing how the pheromones work with your chemistry it’s a crapshoot. AMMO is a line bet. Adding things to it is a side bet. Side bets are riskier any way you play them, unless you know how the dice are loaded. Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![TroubleSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@TroubleSome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TroubleSome)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/14 "2008-12-27T21:38:45Z")
Actually, that’s true, Lapew and Renny both make sense. I don’t want to OD on -none and cause unwanted effects, especially since i’m still a newbie. I think i will try [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) with Ammo, maybe a spray on the hair of Honesty and 2 Ammos on the neck? Any reflections on this? ---
**Author:** ![TroubleSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@TroubleSome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TroubleSome)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/15 "2008-12-27T21:39:08Z")
[quote=“catlord17”] > [@Universal Anarchist](#): > > LOL Sorry. Didn’t mean to intimidate. Must be your pheromones! loool ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/16 "2008-12-27T21:54:28Z")
> [@Universal Anarchist](#): > > Actually, that’s true, Lapew and Renny both make sense. I don’t want to OD on -none and cause unwanted effects, especially since i’m still a newbie. > I think i will try Instant Honesty with Ammo, maybe a spray on the hair of Honesty and 2 Ammos on the neck? > Any reflections on this? I like this better than AMMO + TUTH, but I think even better would be just AMMO. Like I said it’s the line bet. Mucking around with it might increase the payoff if the dice roll your way but it increases the odds that they roll against you unless you know for sure that adding something generally helps YOU. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/17 "2008-12-27T21:57:47Z")
> [@LaPew](#): > > The route to arousal for most women goes through the emotional. Products like Instant Shine, IO, and on a deeper level IH, help you greatly in that respect. So while we tend to think in terms of ‘damn she’s attractive, lets go’ women need more foreplay so to speak. > TUTH shares a main component with Ammo therefore it’s my belief that both together are at best redundant, and at worst counterproductive. > > Believe me the best way to really bring her to a bedeviling boil is through the mind as well as the body. > Steve (with an missing O?) could better elaborate on this. That’s why my main seduction mix for a long time was alpha-nol:shine:ifm. Basically, it allows you to break the ice, she enjoys being around you, and she feels comfortable around you too. Then you just do your thing. Of course you need to know how to talk to a woman, instead of just gaming her. There’s more than one good purpose for a “silver tongue”, in that respect. Seducing a woman really is all about what’s between her ears. You need to get her to believe you’re interesting, attractive, and then turn her on. Standard “Gaming” takes care of that on one level, but on another level, there is seduction of a whole different sort. What I’m talking about isn’t aiming directly for sex, but I can assure you it almost always goes there. In that respect, the social mones are much more powerful than the so-called sexual ones for hunting females. ---
**Author:** ![TroubleSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@TroubleSome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TroubleSome)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/18 "2008-12-27T23:56:25Z")
Hmmmm i usually take calculated risks, but with this one i’ll play it safe and use [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) only as advised. If it’s been proven to work on its own, why mess it up and dabble with mixes when still untested on my surroundings? ---
**Author:** ![LaPew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lapew/32/330_2.png) [@LaPew](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaPew)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/19 "2008-12-29T12:04:21Z")
[renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny) makes a good point about not experimenting when it counts. And [catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17) is dead on when he writes about the benefits of being the guy who women want to be around. The only thing I’d like to add is that _if_ you were going to buy two to gos Instant shine would be a good stand alone to try out. ---
**Author:** ![TroubleSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@TroubleSome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TroubleSome)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meeting-old-flame-would-like-to-cook-her/24276/20 "2008-12-29T14:09:22Z")
Made my first order today which included the to-go versions of Ammo, TTUH, Instant Ops and Instant Hon. I will treat those as an initial experiment and see what works best so i can fine-tune my order next time and add new ones. I’ll go with Renny on this one though, will dabble with 2 drops of Ammo and see the results, got about 10 days to try those on, so i guess NYE will be the starting point 😃 Wish me luck with that, Logging experiments has just started 😛