# Mega TAH on guys **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 2, 2007, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303 "2007-03-02T16:33:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/1 "2007-03-02T16:33:11Z")
Inspired by Jasmin & co’s explorations into wife stealing, I have been experimenting with mega (100-150 mcg) doses of TAH in my mixes. I apply TAH, as with TAA underarm hoping for some nice juicy overtones. The combination seems to radiate charisma but also an effeminate (well, duh!) vibe. The girl I took home last night was accusing me of being gay, or at least swinging a little that way (I was wearing a pink floral shirt, which certainly encouraged that). As well as being an IOI and a shit test I think this reflected the effects of large TAH. My tall, alpha friend also got asked this by an unrelated girl and a third friend got asked if he was a model (hasn’t happened to him before). So to add to ‘social hookup theory’, we now have ‘social gayness theory’ 😉 I was also wearing A1, Impi, Aquagen, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), TAL, TAK but pretty sure that the TAH drove the novel effects of this mix. TAH in partic seems to bring down social barriers. Everyone had a fantasitc time - we were the life of the party and overall I think it might be worth exploring this further. Oh - one more thing. Jasmin’s natural girls vs lotion girls seems to be a cool conversational thread to introduce with all sorts of fun directions it can be taken. ---
**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/2 "2007-03-02T16:36:06Z")
were your other friends wearing TAH too, or was this just because they were part of your cloud? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/3 "2007-03-02T16:38:34Z")
wow,quirk im surprised the Ammo didnt steer that better, although ratios are everything i guess. what are your decisions with what you know now? continue to taper the H until you hit a sweet spot, try it with nothing else, maybe TAH by itself and nothing else would be magical? :o ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/4 "2007-03-02T16:51:34Z")
Great post PheroQuirk, My TAH is on the way, and I will have to be trying some crazy mega-dose combo’s like this to see what results I get. Nunya poses a good set of questions and if you would please clarify for the rest of us. I’m assuming that the gay thing was not what you have wanted, but like you say, perhaps it was the shit test. You also mention that another of your friends got asked if they were a model. Now if someone asked me that, they would either have VERY BAD eye sight, or be attracted to baboons. Lor that’s why I won’t send you a photo, all my camera’s keep breaking. Would love to hear more about this PQ ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/5 "2007-03-02T16:53:09Z")
> [@nunya](#): > > were your other friends wearing [TAH](https://pheromonelabs.com/) too, or was this just because they were part of your cloud? my other friends were mone-less, although I have told them about mones. so it was just because of them sharing the cloud. TAH to me seems to me to be less sharply focused than, say, none. > [@Lor](#): > > im surprised the Ammo didnt steer that better, although ratios are everything i guess. I think mega TAH = feminine/gay. mega TAH + mega masculine mones = puzzling but probably gay/bi vibe. Amping up masculine polarity doesn’t seem to cancel out the TAH fem vibe. > [@](#): > > what are your decisions with what you know now? Well, I like the girl I met yesterday. Everything in life is decided at the margin, and without TAH I think the energy in the group would have been very different and I don’t know if I would have pulled her in so strongly. One should go very easy on TAH in situations demanding respect - for example public speaking (horrible experience - interrupted all the time and I was struggling to control the audience) - and obviously in a work situation one might not wish to confuse people. But I don’t see a problem with large TAH doses in a social fun mix for going-out > [@](#): > > continue to taper the H until you hit a sweet spot, try it with nothing else, maybe TAH by itself and nothing else would be magical? :o I don’t like TAH by itself - don’t get any respect and guys are way too tactile. I might try amping up TAH in a high none mix - see what happens at 250 mcg muhahaha. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/6 "2007-03-02T17:06:16Z")
i will be watching this thread closely then PQ your perennially interesting 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/7 "2007-03-02T17:07:53Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > my other friends were pheromone-less, although I have told them about pheromones. so it was just because of them sharing the cloud. TAH to me seems to me to be less sharply focused than, say, none. > > I think mega TAH = feminine/gay. mega TAH + mega masculine pheromones = puzzling but probably gay/bi vibe. Amping up masculine polarity doesn’t seem to cancel out the TAH fem vibe. > > Well, I like the girl I met yesterday. Everything in life is decided at the margin, and without TAH I think the energy in the group would have been very different and I don’t know if I would have pulled her in so strongly. > > One should go very easy on TAH in situations demanding respect - for example public speaking (horrible experience - interrupted all the time and I was struggling to control the audience) - and obviously in a work situation one might not wish to confuse people. But I don’t see a problem with large TAH doses in a social fun mix for going-out > > I don’t like TAH by itself - don’t get any respect and guys are way too tactile. I might try amping up TAH in a high none mix - see what happens at 250 mcg muhahaha. P’quirk I am curious, how does TAL work for you at similar (maybe slightly lower) dosages and in similar situations? ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/8 "2007-03-02T18:09:31Z")
I don’t have any experience with TAH, but I’ve seen similar type of effects with TAL (another fem pheromone). I think when men start venturing into female [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/), we run th risk of putting out confusing phero-vibes. They certainly seem to work wonders at winning the favor of women, and making them more responsive, but at the risk of getting along _too well_ with them…appearing more feminine than you would like. If I use too much TAL, sometimes I feel like I’m treading a line between lady-magnet, and gay best friend lol. I really wouldn’t want to use this stuff without a generous amount of masculine pheromones…enough to make a strong impression of sexual intent. I’ve had a handful of instances with TAL where women tend to crowd around my vicinity while all the men seemed a little avoidant. Really brings to question ‘why’ women are crowding around me like that though lol…but thats really an ideal spot to be, and I’m not really complaining. hah I’m interested in seeing how your experiences with mega TAH goes…I especially want to see what happens at 250mcg. good luck with that bro. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/9 "2007-03-02T18:45:28Z")
[quote=“sigma”] II’ve had a handful of instances with TAL where women tend to crowd around my vicinity while all the men seemed a little avoidant. Really brings to question ‘why’ women are crowding around me like that though lol…but thats really an ideal spot to be, and I’m not really complaining. quote] Sigma, how much TAL is working best for you so far? Is the response consistent? ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/10 "2007-03-02T19:07:38Z")
[quote=“nbully79, post:9, topic:2303”] > [@sigma](#): > > II’ve had a handful of instances with TAL where women tend to crowd around my vicinity while all the men seemed a little avoidant. Really brings to question ‘why’ women are crowding around me like that though lol…but thats really an ideal spot to be, and I’m not really complaining. > quote] > > Sigma, how much TAL is working best for you so far? Is the response consistent? Minuscule amounts. 2.5-5.0 mcg seems like an appropriate amount. The crowding thing does always happen, but it does consistently work well at winning the favor of women. The question to me is, is TAL itself is inherently a sexual pheromone when men wear it? Doesn’t seem like it so far…but the effects of TAL still have some good advantages. Used in conjunction with dienone, women will be eating out of your hand. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/11 "2007-03-02T19:58:10Z")
[quote=“sigma, post:10, topic:2303”] > [@nbully79](#): > > Minuscule amounts. 2.5-5.0 mcg seems like an appropriate amount. The crowding thing does always happen, but it does consistently work well at winning the favor of women. The question to me is, is TAL itself is inherently a sexual pheromone when men wear it? Doesn’t seem like it so far…but the effects of TAL still have some good advantages. Used in conjunction with Androstadienone, women will be eating out of your hand. You just turned me to TAL!🙂 I remember Michael mentioned that both TAL and TAH are sexually suggestive to some degree and are found predominantly on skin and hair of alpha women. He also suggested to try a small amount of TAH with the working dosage of TAL in a predominantly masculine mix for guys. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/12 "2007-03-02T20:06:55Z")
> [@steveo](#): > > Great post PheroQuirk, Thanks - I’ve enjoyed reading your posts lots too. Glad you joined - it’s good to have you here. > [@](#): > > I’m assuming that the gay thing was not what you have wanted, but like you say, perhaps it was the shit test. It’s partly due to dressing cool, not leaning in, talking about emotions rather than ‘whats your name, what do you do etc’ and not reacting to her in the same way that most guys would. (But this was definitely more than the norm). I don’t think it’s a bad thing - I got the girl and I don’t really care what people around me might think. Nice parts of London seem massively less macho a culture than most US cities, so it doesn’t matter. “Are you gay?” “Only on Tuesdays” whilst massively escalating kino in a way that you couldn’t as easily get away with if she didn’t think you might be. Kind of a pattern interrupt as well as a double bind, I suppose? > [@](#): > > You also mention that another of your friends got asked if they were a model. 45 year-old guy. In good shape, but I think it was the charismatic aura rather than his looks that made her ask him that. Anyway, another night another opportunity for mischief (in a good way). Let’s see how my former work colleagues react 😉 ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 8:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/13 "2007-03-02T20:14:26Z")
> [@](#): > > I think when men start venturing into female pheromones, we run th risk of putting out confusing phero-vibes. They certainly seem to work wonders at winning the favor of women, and making them more responsive, but at the risk of getting along _too well_ with them…appearing more feminine than you would like. If I use too much TAL, sometimes I feel like I’m treading a line between lady-magnet, and gay best friend lol. Yeah, that’s exactly it. So kino kino kino from the beginning, talk about girls you’ve dated in the past, discuss sexy topics. (Jasmin’s lotion girls vs natural girls seems perfect for this because then you can smell her and move in direction of a Style phase shift kiss routine should that seem natural. OMG Ail is really going to hate me now 😉 You can be much more aggressive because the comfort is there already. > [@](#): > > I really wouldn’t want to use this stuff without a generous amount of masculine pheromones…enough to make a strong impression of sexual intent. I think some masculine mones is enough and rest is up to you to shift her state. > [@](#): > > I’ve had a handful of instances with TAL where women tend to crowd around my vicinity while all the men seemed a little avoidant. Really brings to question ‘why’ women are crowding around me like that though lol…but thats really an ideal spot to be, and I’m not really complaining. So one further thing on the charisma front. Specifically it (that aspect of TAH) seems to make people more inclined to attend to, orient towards and respond to you. This is an awesome thing to have happen as it’s consistent with how people treat the highest value people in the room and is superb for reaching the right state. Read Tyler Durden’s Blueprint and/or Social Intelligence by Goleman. > [@](#): > > hah I’m interested in seeing how your experiences with mega TAH goes…I especially want to see what happens at 250mcg. good luck with that bro. Hmmm I shall try this sometime… just not out in central London haha 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/14 "2007-03-02T20:42:08Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > Thanks - I’ve enjoyed reading your posts lots too. Glad you joined - it’s good to have you here. Thank you, it means a lot to me, especially coming from certain members like yourself > [@PheroQuirk](#): > > It’s partly due to dressing cool, not leaning in, talking about emotions rather than ‘whats your name, what do you do etc’ and not reacting to her in the same way that most guys would. (But this was definitely more than the norm). > > I don’t think it’s a bad thing - I got the girl and I don’t really care what people around me might think. Nice parts of London seem massively less macho a culture than most US cities, so it doesn’t matter. > > “Are you gay?” “Only on Tuesdays” whilst massively escalating kino in a way that you couldn’t as easily get away with if she didn’t think you might be. Kind of a pattern interrupt as well as a double bind, I suppose? I always wanted a reaction like this as I knew it would add some serious Kino to the mix. I am so going to try it. I appreciate you validating my preconceived notions. > [@](#): > > 45 year-old guy. In good shape, but I think it was the charismatic aura rather than his looks that made her ask him that. I think I would die if anyone ever mistook me for a model, all though I do have nice legs. ---
**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/15 "2007-03-02T20:55:44Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > Yeah, that’s exactly it. So kino kino kino from the beginning, talk about girls you’ve dated in the past, discuss sexy topics. (Jasmin’s lotion girls vs natural girls seems perfect for this because then you can smell her and move in direction of a Style phase shift kiss routine should that seem natural. OMG Ail is really going to hate me now 😉 You can be much more aggressive because the comfort is there already. _lol_ this reminds me of the chapter i read in Art of Seduction last night - the Dandy archetype - androgyny combined with a hint of dangerous sexuality. Like Prince. you should get some frilly shirts, tight pants, and eyeliner. Jonathon Rhys-Meyers totally did it for me in Velvet Goldmine. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2007, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mega-tah-on-guys/2303/16 "2007-03-03T02:03:20Z")
Great thread guys… PheroQuirk sounds like your ‘game’ has well and truely developed! I find myself sometimes struggling with the discipline required to spend the whole night analysing and following routines/strategies- anyone else find this a problem. Ie. I just want to relax/have fun and not work the whole night lol… Still I respect people that can do it. TAH seems like a good addition for sure - I’ve never tried it. TAL, I have tried, and at 5-10 mcg it definitely makes for slightly more confident, long-winded girls. I usually tried it with a few comfort mones though and maybe I should try it with A314 for example or even -None. Main problem I found with it, at least at work, was that guys (and at least one woman) seemed to back off from me the time after I wore it. There wasn’t really a respect/territorial element to it as with A314 and -None either so it kind of turned me off it, at least at work. But I can definitely see women eating out of your hand with it and IFM combined lol. Visionary