# Men: whats the secret to getting yall in datemode? **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [October 18, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382 "2009-10-18T00:58:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/21 "2009-10-21T22:26:34Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > not happening. next question šŸ˜ƒ lol yup. actually the belief that a woman can change a man is a psychological condition. it is brought about by a sense of unresolved dominance and the clinical term for this is ā€œdumbassā€ šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/22 "2009-10-22T00:01:07Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > not happening. next question šŸ˜ƒ Actually, it can happen. But timing is everything. If youā€™ve already jumped into bed with the guy, it can go two ways and itā€™s a coin toss as to which path heā€™ll follow. 1)Youā€™ve done the deed and if he has any respect for you, heā€™ll decide to date you. Guys often think, ā€˜Sex, then date.ā€™ Women think, ā€˜Date, then sex.ā€™ 2)Youā€™ve done the deed, he carves a new notch in the bedpost and youā€™ve given him bragging rights among his friends. If thatā€™s all heā€™s looking for, to get into your pants, heā€™ll blank you - unless heā€™s looking for a repeat. In both cases, heā€™ll make up his mind in seconds after the act. If youā€™re trying to convert a guy days, weeks or months afterwards, forget it. Heā€™s not interested. Chalk it up to experience and donā€™t make the same mistake again. If you havenā€™t already jumped into bed with him, then weā€™re back at square one. Give it time. At your age, Immaculate, youā€™re dealing with guys that have bigger balls than brains. Itā€™s bad, I know, but there you are. Your only alternative is find a more mature guy and these are normally older. Mid to late 20s or higher. Musk ---
**Author:** ![Franktong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/57b2e6/32.png) [@Franktong](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Franktong)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 1:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/23 "2009-10-22T01:11:34Z")
Hey, if you live in a small city, or a place where everybody knows each other and you are already famous as an easy girl, I mean if you have been with a few guys just for one night stand, that is possible to be the reason that no one wants to get in a date or in a relationship with you, and every guy will try just to screw and go, because he donā€™t want to date a girl that some of his friends already have been with her-hope you get where Iā€™m going with this! If you are not in this situation, and you havent screw a lot of guys, than you have to learn the ladys tricks and to learn and practice the girl techniques, and seems like you dont know anything ab that. There is a book, " The Rules " I think that was the name, but Iā€™m not really sure. Try to find some books about how women should act to get from a men what thy want whenever they want. I will give you an advice that will change everything in the direction that you want, you just need to put a little work to get it. Here it is: 90% of the men are like robots and you have the remote control if you know wich boton to press they do what you want at the moment! So learn the ladys tricks than learn how the men think and act, there is so many books out there. I was so shy before, and I didnā€™t know how to talk, how to act and all the stuff in front of a waman, than I learn how the girls think, what they want, what they looking for a alot more thing and I just keep on learning and practice. Now I have alot of fun in every stage with the ladys from pick up to whatever I deside to go šŸ™‚ If you want to ask me something more send me a message my name here is Franktong Hope you will get it right ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/24 "2009-10-22T01:40:46Z")
> [@Franktong](#): > > Hey, if you live in a small city, or a place where everybody knows each other and you are already famous as an easy girl, I mean if you have been with a few guys just for one night stand, that is possible to be the reason that no one wants to get in a date or in a relationship with you, and every guy will try just to screw and go, because he donā€™t want to date a girl that some of his friends already have been with her-hope you get where Iā€™m going with this! > If you are not in this situation, and you havent screw a lot of guys, than you have to learn the ladys tricks and to learn and practice the girl techniques, and seems like you dont know anything ab that. > There is a book, " The Rules " I think that was the name, but Iā€™m not really sure. Try to find some books about how women should act to get from a men what thy want whenever they want. > I will give you an advice that will change everything in the direction that you want, you just need to put a little work to get it. > Here it is: 90% of the men are like robots and you have the remote control if you know wich boton to press they do what you want at the moment! So learn the ladys tricks than learn how the men think and act, there is so many books out there. > I was so shy before, and I didnā€™t know how to talk, how to act and all the stuff in front of a waman, than I learn how the girls think, what they want, what they looking for a alot more thing and I just keep on learning and practice. Now I have alot of fun in every stage with the ladys from pick up to whatever I deside to go šŸ™‚ > If you want to ask me something more send me a message my name here is Franktong > Hope you will get it right dam dudeā€¦you actually advocate women playing games? wtf? seriously thoā€¦girls that learn to do that sort of shit actually end up worse than the other girlsā€¦men arenā€™t stupidā€¦unless theyā€™re really desperate or needy. itā€™s really easy to spot the girls that are pushing your buttons and that makes you look worse. a girl that isnā€™t dateable is just that..not good enoughā€¦a girl that fucks with your head is even worseā€¦an imitation hooker. lemme tell yall a secretā€¦EVERY guy wants to settle downā€¦some have better standards. if youā€™re a woman that just gets screwed..that means thereā€™s something wrong with you. itā€™s really that simple. now quit blaming it on the guy and trying to change himā€¦youā€™re the one that needs changing fool!!! i think a lot of this comes from the princess upbringing of attractive women in america. how can daddyā€™s little girl ever be wrong? if something isnā€™t working everybody else is fucked up right? interestingly enough iā€™ve been following podcasts from this group of guys that are touring amsterdam right now. over there you can fuck a hot girl for $75, so they donā€™t have all those ā€œprivalegesā€ of beauty that we americans associate with. being pretty doesnā€™t make you special neither does it make you ammune to being fucked in the head. furthermoreā€¦beauty is the shittiest thing to offer for a relationship because it is the one thing that is gauranteed to decrease in value over time. i also think that this is an issue of changeā€¦women just suck at changing themselves. ever notice how every seduction method out there has a section on inner game? now how many women have you met in your life that said to you ā€œi used to be fucked in the head..now iā€™m just fineā€??? iā€™ve never met oneā€¦infact in my limited life experience it goes the other way aroundā€¦the older they get the worse their mental status becomes and the more men stay the hell away from them. ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/25 "2009-10-22T06:16:26Z")
You cannot change a man, but a man can change his plans and habits _for you_ if he wants you enough. If you donā€™t demand it but simply require it, this happens. But only if it is his own choice. Donā€™t bully a man into commitment, allow him to chase you and ask for it. Not every man will want you enough for this, But some will and it is among those men that you take your pick. Be a bit more open about whom you date. Of course, avoid ugly or bad men but give a chance to a guy a bit shorter or different haircolour than you are used to. If they donā€™t catch your interest after a few dates, have mercy and let them slip back into the scene. You have your best chances with men about your own age. The older ones are often still single precisely because they are good at staying single and besides that, the ones who aim younger often do so to postpone settling down. That said, two or three years of difference is pretty irrelevant in the long run. Most of the guys your age are not looking to settle down, and most who do did not plan on it. They just met a girl that fascinated them enough to change their plans. You can be that girl. It takes effort to refine yourself but it can be done. I live in Holland by the way, and a beautiful girl has plenty of great things going for her. The men who are regulars at prostitutes are not the men you want anyway. Besides that, cheap flesh only makes a difficult girl stand out as more radiant. ---
**Author:** ![immaculate\_concepts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/immaculate_concepts/32/2445_2.png) [@immaculate\_concepts](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/immaculate_concepts)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/26 "2009-10-22T14:02:25Z")
> [@meow333x](#): > > lol yup. actually the belief that a woman can change a man is a psychological condition. it is brought about by a sense of unresolved dominance and the clinical term for this is ā€œdumbassā€ šŸ˜ƒ i think that was uncalled for ---
**Author:** ![immaculate\_concepts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/immaculate_concepts/32/2445_2.png) [@immaculate\_concepts](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/immaculate_concepts)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/27 "2009-10-22T14:13:37Z")
@meow33x and also, im not trying to change anybody. obviously everyone will be resistant to change, but dating is casual and getting to know another person personally besides JUST SEXUALLY is not a lost cause, and not all guys are the same just like not all women are the same and your posts indicate you are obviously bitter about something, do you have something you need to get off your shoulders? i really dont want to bring any negativity to this thread so you can pm me if youd like to discuss this thank you ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/28 "2009-10-22T17:53:27Z")
Can I suggest not looking at guys who wear heavy boots? [Heavy Boots](http://www.phys.ufl.edu/~det/phy2060/heavyboots.html) (it was just a thought I had) ---
**Author:** ![Franktong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/57b2e6/32.png) [@Franktong](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Franktong)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/29 "2009-10-23T21:57:12Z")
> [@meow333x](#): > > dam dudeā€¦you actually advocate women playing games? wtf? seriously thoā€¦girls that learn to do that sort of shit actually end up worse than the other girlsā€¦men arenā€™t stupidā€¦unless theyā€™re really desperate or needy. itā€™s really easy to spot the girls that are pushing your buttons and that makes you look worse. a girl that isnā€™t dateable is just that..not good enoughā€¦a girl that fucks with your head is even worseā€¦an imitation hooker. > > lemme tell yall a secretā€¦EVERY guy wants to settle downā€¦some have better standards. if youā€™re a woman that just gets screwed..that means thereā€™s something wrong with you. itā€™s really that simple. now quit blaming it on the guy and trying to change himā€¦youā€™re the one that needs changing fool!!! i think a lot of this comes from the princess upbringing of attractive women in america. how can daddyā€™s little girl ever be wrong? if something isnā€™t working everybody else is fucked up right? > > interestingly enough iā€™ve been following podcasts from this group of guys that are touring amsterdam right now. over there you can fuck a hot girl for $75, so they donā€™t have all those ā€œprivalegesā€ of beauty that we americans associate with. being pretty doesnā€™t make you special neither does it make you ammune to being fucked in the head. furthermoreā€¦beauty is the shittiest thing to offer for a relationship because it is the one thing that is gauranteed to decrease in value over time. > > i also think that this is an issue of changeā€¦women just suck at changing themselves. ever notice how every seduction method out there has a section on inner game? now how many women have you met in your life that said to you ā€œi used to be fucked in the head..now iā€™m just fineā€??? iā€™ve never met oneā€¦infact in my limited life experience it goes the other way aroundā€¦the older they get the worse their mental status becomes and the more men stay the hell away from them. You did not get my point here man, this girl is 20 years old she is not looking to settle and to get married, she is looking to date. What I suspect she is not looking to date the geegs and the nice guys šŸ™‚, she is looking to date the players. So if she donā€™t have a personality to make the guys curious, she is just a girl for screw and go. I donā€™t know with what kind of wimen you have experience, but when I was 22 I use to date 31 years old beautifull inteligent woman that she was on the top of her game and really knows to make the man feel like a MAN. Iā€™m not talking for the bulshet that most of the wimen do all the time, I have experience with that too but this comes from a low level wimen / they can be educated with some univercity degree, but I mean they are low level as a wimen itself, they havenā€™t go to ā€œschoolā€ for how to be a real waman not a bā€¦h. Iā€™m from Europe and there is a huge difference between the wimens here and there. If thatā€™s your point to screw a beuty fo $75, I will tell you where you can go and to have as much as you want for fun not for $. And you can have a real natural beauty, that behaves like a happy cat / if you know what I mean/, nice warm personality. Iā€™m sorry that I have to say that, but the amerikan wimens are so cold and most of them have same lines of how to act with a man! Thanks for your reply, It was interesting as opinion, hope to here from you again! ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/30 "2009-10-24T02:27:34Z")
> [@Franktong](#): > > Iā€™m from Europe and there is a huge difference between the wimens here and there. If thatā€™s your point to screw a beuty fo $75, I will tell you where you can go and to have as much as you want for fun not for $. And you can have a real natural beauty, that behaves like a happy cat / if you know what I mean/, nice warm personality. Iā€™m sorry that I have to say that, but the amerikan wimens are so cold and most of them have same lines of how to act with a man! > > Thanks for your reply, It was interesting as opinion, hope to here from you again! yup, i feel ya on this. iā€™m coming from an international familyā€¦iā€™ve got close relatives in europe and australiaā€¦when they visit hereā€¦they all say the same thingā€¦american women are a total turn off. ---
**Author:** ![Tama1981K](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tama1981k/32/1685_2.png) [@Tama1981K](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tama1981K)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 9:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/31 "2009-11-15T09:12:48Z")
Im 28ā€¦I can clearly say that if a girl is straight up with what she wants and refuses any change of her plans just because some guy walked into her lifeā€¦ I find I end up with them more often than not and it lasts a long time. WHY you ask? its about respect! If you donā€™t have any for yourself how are you supposed to garner any from a guy? A girl who knows what she wants is ten times more attractive than someone who does not.The girl who opens her legs the first night loses all my respect. I have more balls than most guys and I will kiss a girl within 3 minutes after meetingā€¦just cause I can However, if I am doing the horizontal shimmy with her by the end of the dateā€¦its a done dealā€¦I have lost all respect for her and now have the knowledge I can keep her around just to have sex with her until I get bored or leave her wondering what just happened. The current girl I am with did not sleep with me right awayā€¦she let things percolate a bit.(about 3 weeks) We were honest with each other straight from day one..laying out what we expected from the relationship and things have been drama free. Let the guy salivate a little before jumping in the sack with him. It goes without sayingā€¦the guy who posted the scientific explaination is correct on many levels. ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/32 "2009-11-18T23:08:39Z")
Immaculate, how are things working out for you? ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/33 "2009-11-19T00:01:01Z")
A girl who is serious and mature enough to _really_ want to be in a serious relationship herself to begin with is one important thing, some girls are convinced that they need to be in a serious relationship when they really donā€™t want to be in one themselves deep down inside or later find out when itā€™s too late (in the middle of the relationship.) Also one who will be willing to put in her part as well is something that would comfort me if I were still single, besides also having her have a great funny but still serious down to earth loving attitude. All in all, and in all honesty it all comes down to the guy as well. If a guy doesnā€™t want to be in a relationship he **doesnā€™t** want to be in a relationship. While on the other hand someone who does _ **WILL let you** _ _ **know** _ and _ **let those signs be seen** _. Itā€™s really that simple, the want has to be there both ways along with the confidence to go up to each other to let it be known. ---
**Author:** ![Versed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Versed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Versed)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/34 "2009-11-19T18:59:13Z")
What does that say about me physiologically if I am the total opposite? Iā€™d prefer to date and bond with a girl rather just hit-n-quit. To me it feels dirty (no offense to anyone, do your thing, this is me personally) and I have three sisters so Iā€™d feel guilty if I did that type of stuff. > [@mikotorocks714](#): > > All in all, and in all honesty it all comes down to the guy as well. If a guy doesnā€™t want to be in a relationship he **doesnā€™t** want to be in a relationship. While on the other hand someone who does _ **WILL let you** _ _ **know** _ and _ **let those signs be seen** _. Itā€™s really that simple, the want has to be there both ways along with the confidence to go up to each other to let it be known. This is true. Iā€™ve seen girls change minds of men that didnā€™t want relationships but that doesnā€™t have a high chance of being successful in the long run. From experience, I was with someone and later found out she wasnā€™t what I needed and broke up with her. A good thing to notice in a guy is that he knows what he wants in his life and has goals. Men that donā€™t know what they want in life can change drastically during the relationship because he found something new that stimulated him more than his woman. Especially at around our age, majority of men donā€™t have goals, look for someone goal and family-oriented, then youā€™ll find a good potential date/LTR partner. I think money is a factor too for around our age. ---
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/35 "2009-11-22T04:50:00Z")
I dont understand why relationships are so complicated here in USA. I originally came from Southeast Asia and over there things were much simpler. In this country both women and men play games constantly and seem to be pressured a lot not to be themselves. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/36 "2009-11-22T23:59:26Z")
> [@jankren](#): > > I dont understand why relationships are so complicated here in USA. I originally came from Southeast Asia and over there things were much simpler. > > In this country both women and men play games constantly and seem to be pressured a lot not to be themselves. thatā€™s a whole different discussion altogether, you should start a thread on it, i know i have some things to say about it: has to do with 3 reasons: 1. fucked up social structure: you have both liberal and conservative ideas at the same time and it doesnā€™t work. Itā€™s normal to fornicate, but you canā€™t talk about it. weird. 2. Feminism. Itā€™s ok for men and women to fight each other instead of trying to get along. but since women are physically weaker then men, it naturally progessed to women fighting mentally, and then men fighting back, bla bla bla. 3. obesity: statistically, attractive women are the minority which makes them a scarce resource, which makes them have this ā€œprincess mentalityā€ and men to think that they are some sort of trophy to win in a contest. iā€™m a first gen myself, iā€™ve got family in 4 continents, and i can tell you this is not how men and women behave in other parts of the world. ---
**Author:** ![conundrum12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@conundrum12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/conundrum12)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/37 "2009-11-23T01:51:35Z")
Iā€™m going to stay away from the cultural discussion although it is interesting and should be started by itself and just answer the topic. The girl has to be smart and mature. She has to be funny, or at least know what funny is. She has to be able to openly communicate and accept open communication. She has to be cute and attractive or super hot, but I prefer cute for a gf and hot for a hookup if that makes sense. What I find in college at least, is the finer that the girl is, the less of a personality she has. Iā€™m not kidding. The more able she is able to get by on looks alone, the less time sheā€™s spent developing her personality. Because many girls havenā€™t had to develop personalities since they are liked enough for their looks, they are emotionally and personality stunted. All they want to do is party, hookup, barely pass their classes, and repeat this every week. Luckily itā€™s easy to spot these girls. They arenā€™t in hard classes because they make their schedule as easy as possible and likely arent in clubs because they are busy putting make up on or hooking up. Again, this is a big public college and not necessarily applicable to real life post university. However, all this being said, if you are a hot girl, you may be assumed to be dumb and not have a good personality. You must show the guy you are smart. You must show him you have a sense of humor (do you know how rare it is to find a girl who actually is genuinely funny?) Itā€™s hard as hell to find a straight, funny, nice girl. Letā€™s look: ellen degeneres is gay. Wanda Sykes is gay. Rosie O donnell is gay. Sara silverman is fine. So theyre batting 1/4. This isnt necessarily a relatable comparison but interesting to note nonetheless. Show him youā€™re interested in interesting things to you and somewhat willing to listen to interesting things for him. Dont fight over stupid shit with him. Dont talk about make up and your insecurities all the time and you should be doing better than most girls I have been with. Good luck ladies ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/38 "2009-11-23T02:12:09Z")
> [@conundrum12](#): > > Itā€™s hard as hell to find a straight, funny, nice girl. Letā€™s look: ellen degeneres is gay. Wanda Sykes is gay. Rosie O donnell is gay. Sara silverman is fine. So theyre batting 1/4. This isnt necessarily a relatable comparison but interesting to note nonetheless. Are you seriously using comedians as a projection of what the rest of the population is like? Comedians have high rates of depression and bipolar disorder. They are no way a stable microcosm for projection. Plus, most female comedians embody quite masculine behaviour qualities. They feel the need to talk about sex way more than the average comedian. Itā€™s a long history of women not being perceived as funny - and they get around that with vulgar humour. There are exceptions. Josie Long and Maeve Higgins are great to look into. They are oh so adorable and wonderful. That being said - donā€™t look at comedians for an accurate representation of anything. They are a very sad bunch of people with so much more wrong with them than the normal person. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/39 "2009-11-23T02:37:53Z")
> [@LeafStamp](#): > > Are you seriously using comedians as a projection of what the rest of the population is like? Comedians have high rates of depression and bipolar disorder. They are no way a stable microcosm for projection. > > Plus, most female comedians embody quite masculine behaviour qualities. They feel the need to talk about sex way more than the average comedian. Itā€™s a long history of women not being perceived as funny - and they get around that with vulgar humour. > > There are exceptions. Josie Long and Maeve Higgins are great to look into. They are oh so adorable and wonderful. > > That being said - donā€™t look at comedians for an accurate representation of anything. They are a very sad bunch of people with so much more wrong with them than the normal person. iā€™m gonna have to disagree with you on this bud, i think you missed the point. women generally have lousy sense of humors. So far iā€™ve conversed with possibly 5000+ women in my life, i can count the number of them who were funny on one hand. I think most men give up on this trait around 16 or 17. those that donā€™t either are very inexperienced with women or are ridiculously optimistic. Once again, i know iā€™m gonna sound like iā€™m bashing feminists but any idiot with common sense knows that there are huge difference between the two sexes, and you simply cannot expect the same out of women as you would for your guy friends. aka. lower your fucking standards. if i held women to the same personality standards as i did with my guy friends, every one of them would fail. am i a sexist? possibly. but lets do a quick check here: how many women have you met that were as funny as your drinking buddies? how many women have you met that were as emotionally stable as your guy friends? how many women have you met that worked on your car? how many women have you met that got into a ball busting conversation about politics with you? as far as women focusing on their looks and not on their personaliites, i think this comes from a necessity rather than a choice. on some level women know that they canā€™t be as good as your guy buddies. thereā€™s just certain things you canā€™t work onā€¦you canā€™t force someone to be interested in mechanics or politics or videogames. but they can outdo your guy buddies in one departmentā€¦looks. i know this is some chicken and egg kinda shit here. which came first..the girl focusing on her looks and nothing else, or her having nothing else to offer so that she had to focus on her looks? i donā€™t freakin know. my point here is simple..the more women you talk to the more you lower your standards, at least in america anywayā€¦donā€™t know how it works in new zealand. at the end of the dayā€¦looks are just a blanket that covers just how little college age women really bring to the table. ---
**Author:** ![conundrum12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@conundrum12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/conundrum12)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382/40 "2009-11-23T02:48:24Z")
haha didnt mean to start a war I was just making a point. I almost deleted the comedian stuff because I knew it was over the top (the amount of ODā€™s, not pheromone ODā€™s, drugs, is very high among famous comedians as are cases of depressions and such). I kind of assumed ā€œThis **isnt necessarily a relatable comparison but interesting** to note nonetheless.ā€ might make it clear that it wasnt necessarily a relatable comparison to the topic, but still an interesting thing to think about. To really use comedians in relationship to my point that hotter girls are usually less funny and have less of personalities, we turn Rosie O donnell and many more. Did they get by in their lives on their bomb looks? No, they got by on their senses of humor and witty rapport. Are there some hot comedians? Of course. But I think if we put 10 average females and 10 average female comedians in a room, and 10 guys had to pick a date. There would be a higher percentage of non-comedians than comedians picked if the guys were looking for attractiveness/sex. There would be a higher percentage of comedians picked if the guys were going for personality/LTR. Steve Wozniak, the founder of apple, is a goofy dude. He is also a rich dude, who could probably have almost any dime gold digger he wanted. He chose Kathy Griffin for her personality because he realized how hard it was to find a good personalityā€™d bomb girl, and therefore he evaluated Kathy of being basically very funny and hot enough imho [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/men-whats-the-secret-to-getting-yall-in-datemode/33382.md?page=3)