# Mens Pheromone Guide revised 6/15

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**Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\
**Created:** [May 4, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mens-pheromone-guide-revised-6-15/12168 "2008-05-04T12:49:39Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mens-pheromone-guide-revised-6-15/12168/1 "2008-05-04T12:49:39Z")

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**Revised for 2010/11**

**Common question thread**

> [@An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012):
>
> DIRECTORS LOG: While this is being completed by me to add as a sticky to the Introduction section you need to know this is only a copy and as such will be deleted when the time arrives. I am only placing it because I want the communities feedback. These questions have been asked a gazillion times and while this is not an attempt to discourage questions, I thought maybe it would serve to help answer some of those repeat questions. I will not be including anything on how to use mones for what, or …

Ok I had to put the guide in this section of the forum because the men’s have way to many stickies now and I didn’t want to add another there.

So anyways I got quite a few requests to do a men’s guide and I am flattered but want you to all know upfront that without all the wonderful postings on pheromones by the experienced men I would never been able to write this.

**Men’s Pheromone guide**

I have gotten a few requests for a men’s Pheromone guide and while the stickies written by the men cover a lot of this I figured if people are asking they want one so here go’s  
Keep in mind that in the store when you click on a product in the full size bottle area you will get a great explanation of each product as well.

**Consumer products and Instant line…**

**AMMO**  
Ammo is a mix of 3 pheromones in a cologne carrier. It smells similar to Green Irish Tweed. . Its sexy attracts attention and interest, can cause arousal, increase the users confidence. This one is good for use in any environment. It does contain 2.5 mcgs of Androstenone. 7.5 mcg pheromones per spray in total. Men usually need to work a little to find there sweet spot (dosage) but its buffered so OD is much less common with this product. So don’t worry to much and spray some on LOL

HEAVY AMMO

This is for men over 30 or those who find they have needed more then 3 sprays to see results with regular ammo. It has more Androstenone in it 5.0 mcgs .

Good products to use with AMMO

Instant Shine to up the sensuality Instant Openness to up the fun approachable side of it. Turn Up The Heat if your looking to send out a really serious lets hit the sheets signal

[Ammunition - Don't overlook it](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-dont-overlook-it/353)

**Turn Up The Heat**  
This one comes in regular and 2X strength. Regular has a total of 5mcg of pheromones per spray 2.5 of those are Androstenone. 2X has 10mcg of pheromones per spray in total and 5.0 mcgs of Androstenone. Always start with regular strength.

Best used in a club or party environment or for one on one encounters with someone who has a comfort level with you established. Not recommended for work. It comes on strong sexually and a lot of times works better if buffered with a social pheromone. Great for making sex more intense.

**Edit to add\>\>\>** As confirmed by Jasmin TUTH which is primarily anone has 11 other steering agents added to help it increase arousal. Still heavy in anone though.

[WTF some scary S%\*#](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420)

> [@What are you trying to achieve with pheromones? What are yours goals?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-are-you-trying-to-achieve-with-pheromones-what-are-yours-goals/155):
>
> In my never ending quest to serve you better, this week, I ask: What are you trying to achieve with [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/)? What are yours goals and desires? And, out of those goals and desires, what have you achieved already?

> [@Relatively new to pheromones- Turn up the heat](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relatively-new-to-pheromones-turn-up-the-heat/304):
>
> What can you guys tell me about TUTH? - Experiences? Hits? Best way to use? ALSO, how does it compare to alter ego, and how has AE worked for you? Thanks

**A314**

This one ups your status… Its the alpha respect pheromone and is one of the harder to learn but most powerful mixes here at Androtics or anywhere in my opinion. At this time it has 16 to 19 pheromones in it. Androsterone being about 80% Oil base product.

It ups your status, give you a alpha aura, people treat you with more respect and trust, they tend to look up to you more and bend over backwards to please you.

Whats hard about it… a lot of people are intimidated by the alpha aura so sometimes it can bring your approachability down. You may have to give cues or initiate the conversation with this one. Ahhh but once you do you will see the power behind A314.

Is it sexy ??? Yes it is but not particularly arousing. Many women find the alpha aura a man gives off very attractive though so it can help in the lady department.

There is a private forum for A314 users. Just PM steveO or myself with your invoice number from the order that contained A314 and we will send you the password as soon as steveO can cross check the order.

[AA314 dosage.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aa314-dosage/51)

> [@Are tests repeatable?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-tests-repeatable/36):
>
> Wanted to bring this issue up – How repeatable are tests? Before I go further, Let me just say that the Androtics Experimone kit is awesome. The sprayers are consistent and you know exactly how many micrograms you’re getting per spray. It’s a huge leap forward for the hardcore users. So thanks! Now that the synthetic end is sorted out, I’m wondering about the other side of the issue – our own natural pheromone levels in the equation. I’m wondering how much they vary. Is it such that they make…

> [@A314 first experience with Xmone TAA: girlfriend became more challenging](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-first-experience/125):
>
> ok, I don’t know if anyone has experience this, but I used 2 drops of A314 and 3 sprays of xmone taa. I met my girlfriend on sunday at her house. I first notice that she became more challeging. Almost like she knew I was the boss, but she gave me alot of shittest to see if it were for real. Now to an AFC, A314 can be a disaster if they don’t know about how to handle a shittest. So A314 is great for PUAs because once you pass the shittest she will be all wet for you.

**Raw power** (discontinued)

Raw power is Androtics answer to Primal for men. 10mcg of Androstenone per drop, oil based  
Oils diffuse long and slow. This one is highly sexual but because of the longer lasting and slower diffusing effects of oil based you can wear a higher dose of the Androstenone then the sprays  
You can mix this one in your own cologne is you like. This one is great for men over 40 but can be worn by the younger crowd as well. They just need to use a lot less.

If your overly aggressive already or people find you intimidating this one may not be for you. If your shy or not very outgoing this will help get your butt moving and get out there with more confidence and aggressiveness.

> [@New Product Launch: RAW Power - 39.97 - Goodbye Primal!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-product-launch-raw-power-39-97-goodbye-primal/38):
>
> A hugely successful marketer in the “seduction” field took one look at the pheromone market and had this to recommend to me: stop being so nice, and start making enemies. He recommended that because, after all, I started Androtics because of the lack of good products. If I wanted good products, I had to make them. I’ve been so busy in the business end of things, I almost forgot that. Thinking about why I got into this in the first place, reminds me of the purpose. Fact is, there STILL aren’t m…

> [@Raw Power vs. androstenone spray](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157):
>
> I’m curious as to the difference between the spray and [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/). Which diffuses better? Does Raw Power have an included scent added to it? Which would you recommend and why?

**[Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) (discontinued)**

This one is great for calming and easing women’s moods. Women have been known to become cuddly or clingy when exposed to it. Not really attracting in nature but still useful to have.

> [@NEwbie to IFM,IS,IO,IH need advice](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-to-ifm-is-io-ih-need-advice/115/7):
>
> Even 1 spray works well, especially with women who are already prone to like you. 4-5 can help break through some awfully hard ice, if you want to go the low-androstenoune route. I’ve been testing “night life” mixes recently. I used a mix not dissimilar to several sprays of Openness, Shine, with a small amount of none and rone. I also used 5 sprays around the frontal and rear neck areas. I had 3 approaches by women. They were all surprises, since I didn’t initiate at all. While I tend to be …

**Instant Shine**  
This is really a fantastic product on so many levels. It is confidence and charisma in a bottle. Its warm friendly comfortable and just makes you feel like you can take on the world with a smile. Gotta love it. It effects the user as well as those exposed to it. One of the easiest products to see effects with to. It is said to have some sexual suggestive effects and I would have to agree. I mean who doesn’t just fall in love with shiny happy people ???

Comes in a neroli scent, 3 pheromones primary is TAA 15mcg per spray of pheromones

**Instant gentlemen**  
Hmmm Masculine, sexy, strong, chivalrous, this one is a great product for those who don’t want aggressive or over sexual but want that manly sexy vibe. Self effects reported are increased confidence and politeness. Great alternative for younger men. Primary pheromone Androsterone

> [@"I am the man" self effect with Instant Gentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-the-man-self-effect-with-instant-gentleman/5598):
>
> For several days i started adding [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) to my daily mix of A314 and shine. I get a strange self effect after 20min or so.. I have a huge confidence in the good way(not like the Instant Jerk way) i kinda move slowly and more heavy… I am the type of person that is aways on the rush and makes fast sudden moves.. and i walk really fast.. when i walk slow i trip up stuck_out_tongue but when i use 3 and more sprays of Instant Gentleman i do everything so calm. You just cant miss …

> [@Instant Gentleman first report: lovely scent, compliments, no clear effects yet](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-report-instant-gentlman/2523):
>
> :o Progress report for my dealings with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) thus far: Instant Gentle has a lovely scent which I’ve gotten a few compliments on thus far. I’ve only gone out with it six times so far and never with more than 2 sprays, 2 times per night. I haven’t had any conclusive findings with effects on others thus far. Most “scientific studies” for such things are double blind and run at least 30 times. Given that I’m one person who’s not blind at all to this, and that I’m going about it with p…

> [@Instant Gentleman by Examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-by-examine/10936):
>
> Ok so as some may know I’ve been testing this spray. There have been loads of feedback from older posters, but really nothing from 20 something yr olds. Day 1- 4 sprays to my neck. My aunt came by to drop off some letters. A little inside about my family. They talk a lot of shit. Too much shit. In fact, they talk so much shit, that I think negativity is a family trait. Anyways, my aunt steps in, drops off my mail, and I notice she isn’t talking shit. I mean she did, but after 10 min of lingerin…

> [@Very nice "cool evening mix"](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-nice-cool-evening-mix/11819):
>
> i just had a very nice evening out with 2 friends. 1 male 1 female. here’s the mix All 30mL bottles Instant Gentleman: 2 sprays- one neck (spilt), one to upper chest/low neck (i find i get the self effects from this area) Instant Honesty 2x: 3 sprays- one neck (split), one bak of head/hair, one chest/ lower neck Instant Shine 2x: 2 sprays- neck (one each side) |togo| [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/): 1 spray- wrist (split) Location: fancy/ casual local restaurant Open windows, nice breeze, mild tem…

**Instant Openness**  
A chatty social mix, its friendly fun and attracts people. It helps to break the ice. Also good when you need to soften or buffer a heavy mix. Primarily Alpha Androstenol

**Instant Honesty**

The is also a chatty mix but on a deeper more intimate level. It also brings about a feeling of closeness and intimacy which will get you farther with the ladies then arousal on its own. Its primarily Beta Androstenol

**Instant Jerk (Now without copulins)**

This one will make you memorable but not liked in some cases. 15mcg per spray of Androstenone, Some girls dig jerks, don’t ask me why LOL High amounts of Androstenone can make women cranky even while they arouse. Hence the name Instant Jerk

> [@What is Instant Jerk made of, and is it pure -none?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk/114/5):
>
> Hi, Pheropimp. Thanks for your question, and welcome to the forum! [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) is a novelty, “fantasy fulfillment” product. It can be fun, but it’s not what I’d personally use for daily wear. slight_smile Jerk is high androstenone with several intensifiers. Total pheromone content is currently 17.5mcg per spray. 12.5mcg of that is androstenone. Instant Jerk also includes a small amount of female copulins (compounds that women excrete during sex), that act to boost your own assertiveness an…

**Dirty (discontinued)**  
This is a oil based mix of Androstenone and copulins. It gives you a vibe of “the player” or a man who has just spent some intimate time with a women. It has a bad boy vibe to it and a lot of women attract to that.

Word of caution though. It stinks so be prepared to cover it. Apply wait 10 to 15 stinky minutes then cover with cologne.

**Spaceland,**  
This one is a hoot, Great for parties. Its 50mcg per spray of Alpha Androstenol, Makes the party really lively and fun. Sort of smells like weed to. This product is just designed for having a good time.

> [@PheroBombs or PartyMones - Blast your party or other "get together" with pheromones!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pherobombs-or-partymones-blast-your-party-or-other-get-together-with-pheromones/150):
>
> We’re rolling out hot-rodded room diffusers soon, masquerading as common air fresheners. Ousts with gusto. Why Ousts? We’re perfectly capable of buying cheap, unbranded diffusers from China. It’d save us some money, but I figured this would be even more “low-key”. More incognito. AKA – Sneaky! We’ve tested these at some stores and restaurants, and we’ve never received reports of anyone suspecting that’s why they feel so darn good. “It’s just an Oust”, they must think (if they think anythin…

**Come Talk To Me Mix 2**

This is basically a mix of Alpha Androstenol and Beta Androstenol, It makes people chatty comfortable and gets them talking to you more. Its more rough then just Instant Openness or Instant Honesty on its own.

> [@Whats in that CTTM2?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-in-that-cttm2/445):
>
> Hello Ladies - greetings to the Fellas too!! I ordered some CTTM2 a couple of weeks ago. The stuff works very well, my co-worker (who up until I started wearing the stuff was pretty closed-mouthed about anything personal) proceeded to tell me about a tryst she had while her husband left to another country for a short time. Another woman, who I had always figured was a control-freak with superiority issues, cried to me in the office kitchen about not being happy in her job and was thinking abou…

**MYSTERY BOY**

This one is great for the gay life style. It is a mix of both male and female mone. Lots of friendly socials with a touch of feminine mones. Has the AMMO scent pack.

> [@I've always wondered:Mystery Boy](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ive-always-wondered-mystery-boy/345/2):
>
> Bi-Curious, are you? wink Gay men like men, so “male” pheromones tend to be as attractive to gay men, as they are to hetero women. HOWEVER, the gay culture is very unlike hetero culture. Our gay testers reported increased attraction with most of our male products – including A314 – but with unwanted side effects, including acts of male aggression. Not the kind of male aggression they actually want. Gay men may be sexually aggressive with each other, but we’ve been told that bar fights an…

> [@Is Mystery Boy sexually charged or just friendly, and is it useful in a mix?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mystery-boy/1042/9):
>
> Matthew, [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/) is definitely a great deal right now with the experimental bonus package. The newer versions do contain some of what are typically thought of as female pheromones such as TAH. However, there’s definitely nothing so “gay” about Mystery Boy that a little rone and androstenone won’t fix. Sigma’s suggestion is dead on. Also, if you normally come off as intimidating, it could be right up your alley without any tweaks at all. Hey, waybe we could even market it as that to straig…

> [@What pheromones to have fun with gay men?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-to-have-fun-with-gay-men/1167):
>
> What [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) should I use to have fun with a gay man? On new years I will be at the big family party. My gay uncle will be there with his gay life partner. My uncle’s man is so cool. I just LOVE to talk to him, plus he is filthy rich. 1000000.00$(yes, a million $) + USD annually. I love his stories about being the only man to have brought the Concord(the super sonic plane) to Montréal, his luxury trips to Monte Carlo, his crazy stories about renting castles, having his friends flown in by he…

> [@Has anyone used the gay pheromone "Mystery Boy" for Gay Men?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-anyone-used-the-gay-pheromone-mystery-boy-for-gay-men/564):
>
> ([https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/))What would be its effects applied on a heterosexual male?

**ADVANCED PRODUCTS**  
These are for people who would like to test and share some of the newly discovered molecules and mixes.

Putatives are single molecule pheromones that may or may not act as a pheromone.

Experimental test mixes, are new mixes that may become consumer products if they work out successfully in testing.

Experimones are single molecule pheromones that are popular in most mixes and have been proven to work. These are sold for those who may want to mix there own.

Keep in mind these are in testing… Here are some of the popular ones from the past and the new tests being released.

**MX297**

> [@MX297 - Collective Reports](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx297-collective-reports/38527):
>
> Hey guys, I know a lot of us have wanted to get MX297 around more and more. Let’s try to keep it a little organized so we can compare notes with it and everything. I know there are so many posts about it but if we can consolidate we can probably narrow down and pinpoint the effects based on everyone else’s reports. This was mine so far on a different post. "I tried it yesterday when I got it at work, and when I tell you that clients and regular customers were acting differently around me, I K…

> [@First Major Hit - MX297](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-major-hit-mx297/43347):
>
> Ok, so I went out on saturday wearing 3 shots of [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) to the neck and 1 spay to my head (I was wearing a big jacket so my neck was mostly covered). Went to a club with a few mates of mine. I have been consistantly experiencing high respect from both men and women when wearing this mix. Guys seem to want to be friends with me and I get more attention from girls too. At one point I went outside the venue to have a smoke. This girl came up to me and asked me for a lighter. After I gave her the l…

> [@Mx297 good enough to be Ammo 2.0?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx297-good-enough-to-be-ammo-2-0/41510):
>
> The chemical world has changed (I’ll update you more on that shortly) and so has the economy and other costs of doing business. We may need to fast forward a few projects faster than we may have liked, I’m order to survive at all since the actual supply chain we use is in danger of collapse. Any objections to [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) or a close variation becoming Ammo 2.0? (remember ammo 2.0 will be a google and affiliate advertised version of Ammo, 1.x will still remain here) I know we have some better stuff h…

**MX102 thru MX105** (Test over with)

These are the tester spray versions of A314. MX102 seems to be the favorite in earlier testing. Its said to be more strong probably because of its faster diffusion then oil based A314. Keep in mind it dosnt last as long as oil based. MX105 is another favorite and said to be a power mix for both men and women. MX103 is a currant favorite but is said to smell nasty. MX104 is slightly more sexual then the rest according to MHarris.

> [@Mx102-mx105](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-mx105/855):
>
> Now that they are out of stock will more be made and sold? Or, now only the final spray version will be made and released? It seems MX102 was quite good and MX105 too. How will the decision for final [A314 spray](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic-spray/) product version be taken?

> [@MX102 experimental A314 mix 1: early user experiences, no effect yet, dosing tips](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-experimental-a314-mix-1/521/12):
>
> Hehe. That’s nice for a good chuckle. Unfortunately, with MX102, what you described is just about impossible. Now with MX104… could be a different story. It’s interesting that many women say that rone has a nice manly smell. Sometimes a testicular smell.

> [@MX102 is definitely 'edgier' than A314](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-is-definitely-edgier-than-a314/1170):
>
> Well after playing around with the MX102, I have come to the conclusion that it is probably a bit too edgy for me to wear at work. I find that 2 full sprays to anywhere around the face area can even give me -None OD type reactions. I find myself snappy, aggressive, sexually frustrated, and can see others reacting negatively to it. Luckily one of the times I ODed, people’s aggression was directed at the boss, who has this habit of attacking people’s ideas - well boy did they stick it to her (wit…

> [@MX103 Here, let me just stand on this pedestal and look great](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx103-here-let-me-just-stand-on-this-pedestal-and-look-great/11551):
>
> I think I’ve finally given this enough runs to have it down, this is a really powerful mix. You can definitely feel the A314 heritage, but every aspect just seems a bit stronger. Like turning your amp up to 11. Not as smooth, but like a wild cousin. It’s got this “I’m here, notice me” vibe going on. I had people I only vaguely know coming across the room to say hello. And you’ve got the whole confidence thing going so you aren’t afraid of anything. It’s a great mix for people who might need a l…

> [@'Younger man's A314' fuzed with the 'cool guy vibe': combining MX105 with P74](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/younger-mans-a314-fuzed-with-the-cool-guy-vibe-combining-mx105-with-p74/6929):
>
> [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pmx-102-105-with-asian-girls/738/10](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pmx-102-105-with-asian-girls/738/10) ([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pmx-102-105-with-asian-girls/738/10](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pmx-102-105-with-asian-girls/738/10)) Examine (October 15, 2006): “…MX 105 is one of the new A314 ([https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/)) sprays. I believe 105 lacks 2 components, my guess would be the components that give it that dark vibe/serious tone which puts people at a distance…” [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pmx-102-105-with-asian-girls/738/22](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pmx-102-105-with-asian-girls/738/22) ([https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pmx-102-105-with-asian-…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pmx-102-105-with-asian-girls/738/22)

**MX113 thru MX118** (test over with)

More test mixes, Said to be sexy romantic by some mixed results with others , Akuto scent pack. I let the guys describe it for you here…

> [@Mx113-mx118](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx113-mx118/745):
>
> Any other reports on these mixes? I read one report from MX113 used with TAA. Also Jasmin said men who use MX113 get illegal number of hugs. She checked!!! smiley Also, is there any chance we can just buy MX113 (have I asked this before?)?

> [@Results with mx113](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-with-mx113/1724):
>
> So I’ve been playing around with mx113 recently, by iteself. I spent my day at school around a lot of girls and I was commented on how nice the akuto scent was and it’s also very durable in the sense that it certainly lasts a long while. The thing was, besides the smell, it did absolutely nothing. I plan on putting it on with some of the products stuck with neroli to get rid of that horrible odor but besides that I haven’t seen anything with mx113. I’ll keep you guys updated if anything happens …

> [@Mx113, you actualy did me well.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx113-you-actualy-did-me-well/1779):
>
> After my long dry spell I finaly have one hooked. The last text message she sent me was “and don’t think it’s because I don’t want to!” refering to her inablity to meet up until next weekend. When I met her I was wearing 4 sprays of mx113 with one more applied and washed off, 1 spray mx102/alpha A314, around 50mcg androstenol, around 15 beta -Androstenol. (not sure on the -nols), all topped off with 4 accumulative sprays of instant shine. Everything was normal accept the mx113. On the normal m…

**MX143 (test over with)**

This is a variation of MX113

> [@Pow just like that I was wearing MX113 on steriods.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pow-just-like-that-i-was-wearing-mx113-on-steriods/1319):
>
> MX143 open_mouth Now that mix packed a punch. It’s basically a modified version of MX113. but damn this mix was waaay more blunt. It all started at lunch time. The portuguese girl and I were playing pool, she was waving her a\*\* around, at one point she was rubbing it on me. (I cant stress this girls a\*\* enough google Vida Guerra for an example) So on the way back to work we get to the parking lot, I noticed she didnt open her door… in other words, “we need to kiss” so we did. On the way bac…

**P74**

Closest to the hard to get molecule EST . Said to be more bonding. cool, laid back

`http://www.pheromonetalk.com/pheromones-118631-post14.html`

> [@before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476):
>
> There is so much fragmented information about the [putative pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/) properties. We should make notes here about all we have learned to date regarding the behaviors of these molecules.

> [@P74 - Good for everything?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-good-for-everything/2469):
>
> As we get everything settled here, we’re excited to introduce new mixes, some of which will be [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) heavy. Quick question for those of who have a lot of experience with P74. Do you find that this enhances any mix? Any negatives? From what I’ve seen with my own eyes, the only negative might be the time you could need for social interactions. I’m not sure P74 is really appropriate unless you have time to hangout and bond. I haven’t seen this in use in a red hot sexually charged encounters, thoug…

More to follow 🙂

**P83**

Although still in testing P83 seems to be sexual in nature. It seems to decrease people inhibitions. Here are some reports on this favorite Putative…

`http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/worth-wait-im-testing-p83-7024.html`

> [@You're a Sexy Dirty Bastard SteveO, now give me some love!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/youre-a-sexy-dirty-bastard-steveo-now-give-me-some-love/5974):
>
> A post by May in the womens forum sparked my intrigue: [Talk “dirty” to me](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-dirty-to-me/5738) So after reading that post I decided to mix up my own blend of “You Sexy, Dirty Bastard!” another fine mix by SteveO. Using a To Go bottle two formulations of the following with concentrations per spray TUTH: .457 TAA: 9.756 Cops: 1.626 \*Substituted [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) for TUTH in batch two with 11.842 mcg per spray. EDIT: Notice the change in concentration of P83. I erroneously had said it was the same as the TUTH but was wrong. I…

> [@My Brain Is Bleeding Into My Skull Causing Total Insanity](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-brain-is-bleeding-into-my-skull-causing-total-insanity/6056):
>
> MEGA DOSE TRIAL # 1 The molecule: [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) The dose: 510 mcg My God I have no idea what just happened. I can barely remember my name, and am confused why I am naked and who the hell is in my bedroom. It’s all a blur and I believe I am going to die soon. In the name of science and all things pink and squishy I woll attempt to write this before I am taken to the assylum. I’ve been Phero Free now for three days including all of today. I took the Tater Challenge which will now be known as the Suicid…

> [@P83, a compilation: including 'sexual/erotic' effects](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-compilation-including-sexual-erotic-effects/5789):
>
> Deleted post

This report is by a girrrrllll but P83 was deeply involved LOL

> [@Parties, Hot Tubs and Mones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/parties-hot-tubs-and-mones/6275):
>
> Went to a poker/baseball party at my girlfriend from works house last night. We have poker parties every month. It was also the hosts birthday so I brought along a present of some lotions and different scents and bath products for her. Over half the people there are men. I work with mostly men so this is normal. Alcohol was being consummed by some. So we were handing her new scents around and smelling them all and the guys are great and get right in there and smell them and give there opinions.…

There are a whole lot more putatives to test and discover.

**Where should I apply ?? How much should I apply??**

These questions can be best answered by you. You need to start with 1 drop or spray and work up to find your dosage.

Apply them where your body heats up like pulse points, neck chest back of neck jaw line wrists, forearms ect ect. DO NOT spray to groin or pits. These are bacteria rich environments and will make you pheromones really smelly. The application spot that works best for you may be different then the next guys.

You can spray on cloths but it will hamper the ability for the product to diffuse making it harder to see hits. Cloth is absorbent so you would need to be in close contact with your target to see results. Its really not the ideal place to spray but if you happened to be covered up with cloths like in winter you can use this method.

> [@Points of Application?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/points-of-application/137):
>
> With all these sprays and products where do you guys apply different products…?:confused: sometimes the wrist areas seems like they would be less effective when you are wearing long sleeve shirts or a jacket. I thought about applying Alpha and beta nol products like Instant openess /honesty to the back of my hands, but then I thought about how it might rub off with all the times I put my hands in my pockets or jacket pockets? I spray IS to my hair and one to the front of my neck/chest region. …

**Can I mix these with my own colognes ??**

Well ultimately they are your products so you can do what ever you like with them but it is NOT advised to mix the consumer products in one bottle or with other scents until you have a lot of experience with pheromones and successfully get them working for you.

Each consumer product is balanced, to add your own scent you would dilute them or put them off balance. The instant line is made to use as a stand alone product or for layering. This also gives you control over the effects you want on a given day. If you mix them and don’t like the results or if one day you don’t feel like having chatty people around your basically stuck with what you have. If you didn’t mix you could have just left the Instant Openness or Instant Honesty off that day.

When you see people in the forum talking about mixes or combos they mean layering unless they specify otherwise or say composite.

A typical mistake men make when ordering is going to Androstenone heavy or masculine with there product choices.

Yes I know the sexual pheromones sound like more fun. The social pheromones are important and have there place in attraction.

They add comfort and connection which in the case of 80 or 90 % of the women out there is needed to act on arousal. Basically what I am saying is you may be hot as hell and make us extremely aroused but if we don’t feel safe, if we don’t feel trust or a connection your shit out of luck. We wont act on that arousal. I am not saying we don’t like sex as much as the guys. Of course we do but we are just emotionally different then men. These are also important for those who are already involved or looking for a long term relationship and not just a sexual relationship. So when you picking up all those sexy masculine pheromones get a least one to-go bottle of a social to make your selections more well rounded. You will be glad you did.

There is a wealth of information from the fantastic men in the “men’s tips and tricks section” There are also many experienced men who will help you with using your pheromones most effectively. I have added some of my favorite links throughout this guide but truly there is so many useful ones I cant list them all here. So be sure to read the forum when you have a chance.

Other great links you should read …

Excellant post by eslite119 on mones and race (NEW)

> [@Analysis on each pheromone and its effect on different races](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/analysis-on-each-pheromone-and-its-effect-on-different-races/14624/1):
>
> I’ve been observing this for quite sometime and wanted to post some of my findings. The purpose is to provide some new and/or good information and also to amend my own awareness with the inputs from other forum members. As always, I’d greatly appreciate any rebuttals or inputs that’d further enhance the accuracy of information below. Background info (boring stuff): To briefly introduce myself, I’m Southeast Asian, 25 years old, 5’10" (considered to be tall in our culture), and physically fit. …

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/read-me-first-helpful-topics-on-how-to-get-around/3106](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/read-me-first-helpful-topics-on-how-to-get-around/3106)

> [@Congruence? What's That?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/congruence-whats-that/9805):
>
> What is congruency? We talk about this alot but do we really do a good job of explaining it to a newbie? Do we really understand what goes into congruency ourselves? I looked up an array of definitions to find one that matched my idea of congruent/congruous/congruence. There is the purely mathematical “congruent figures have the exact same size and shape”. Then there is the more legalizish “Congruence is the degree of match between two codes”. My favorite is “Agreement of character (parameter)”. …

> [@My stupid newbie tricks](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/1):
>
> STOP If you are new and have not read this thread byZeph [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-f-a-qs/11517](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-f-a-qs/11517) Ksages great expectations post [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-think-about-pheremones-effects/16064](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-think-about-pheremones-effects/16064) Another great post that may help many guys by Fire and Ice [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-you-guys-who-think-pheromones-get-women/15421](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-you-guys-who-think-pheromones-get-women/15421) Wow, the two month mark! I might as well post a few of my less than stellar phero adventures. I wouldn’t have listened to me but there may be some…

> [@Womens Pheromone Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-pheromone-guide/4258):
>
> Revised for 2010/11 Ok ladies here is the start of my pheromone guide you asked for. I will be adding to it but I wanted to post something to get it started. (Mens guide located in the “Pheromone theory” sticky section) When posting about your pheromone experiences please try to add the dose on the bottle. How much you used and where you sprayed it on your body. This makes it easier for Jas and others to figure out what works and what doesnt and why. Due to Androtics no longer being able to …

There is some information on products in here for men as well as application methods.

> [@What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558):
>
> A lot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get a lot of PM’s from people asking me why "they couldn’t get there cheati…

> [@\-none, -rone, -nol explained](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720):
>
> Here is a description of all of these found on another site and as a newB I found it to be very helpful: Androstenone (a.k.a -none, Anone): Signals dominance and aggression, quite competitive. -none is often associated with a sexual response, but by no means exclusively. Androstenol (a.k.a -nol, Anol): Signals youth, and sociability, often induces lots of talking, friendliness and comfort. As it often seems to cause conversation, it can be a good ice breaker. Androsterone (a.k.a -rone, …

> [@To go bottle (5ml) vs normal bottles (30ml)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-go-bottle-5ml-vs-normal-bottles-30ml/10608):
>
> I don’t know if this is the right part of the forum to ask this question or not but here it goes. One spray of a to go bottle is it the same of a standard bottle?

**Here is the sizing on the bottles for those curious.**

Click to see pic \>\> [To-Go bottle photo...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-go-bottle-photo/6500/10)

30ML bottle has 200 sprays

to-go bottles have 40 sprays

The spray nozzle on a to-go bottle is smaller so you get a bit less of dosage then you would from a 30ML bottle. To-go spray above 83% of the dosage or a regular sized bottle.

**What should I expect from the products ???**

Mones enhance who you already are. They are tools in the art of seduction and socialization. Just like that sexy shirt or new haircut they enhance you and attract attention.

There are also mones here at androtics that can be used for a lot of other reasons other then seduction.

IFM for calming a cranky PMS SO

Ishine to uplift and make for happy good times

Spaceland to get that high feeling without getting high.

Here is a post that can help you understand more of what to expect.

> [@What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558):
>
> A lot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get a lot of PM’s from people asking me why "they couldn’t get there cheati…

Ok well this is my rough draft and I will add to it as I find more posts that are good reads that need to be added. If anyone has suggestions or wants something added just PM me.

Tisha

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