# Mental State of Mind is a Start! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [March 23, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mental-state-of-mind-is-a-start/37220 "2010-03-23T02:30:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mental-state-of-mind-is-a-start/37220/1 "2010-03-23T02:30:30Z")
Welcome everyone to my journal. Feel free to express your thoughts 😃 I have given this thought and also been on the receiving end of great support and advice from some members here. **My Goal #1** is to try to break out of the friend zone of 2 years through the use of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), but most importantly, also through the use of my mind and behavior. I shall change along with the use of pheromones. It may be a devastating change! **My Goal #2** is to see how far I can get with other girls by experimenting with the pheromones I have as of now, and as of later on. **Currently My Stock of Mones :** Full Bottle Ammo To-Go TUTH (5.0 mcg) To-Go IO To-Go IS To-Go IH To-Go CTTM2 **About myself:** I do not have much experience when it comes to women, the game, and when it comes to relationships. I was always in my own world, (sports, music, lifting..etc.), but never really looking or even keeping my eyes open for a girl who I can be in a relationship with. It all changed when in college, I got to know a girl, along with a close friend of mine, and I started viewing her in a different way. After a long time, I was able to express my feelings, at a bad time though. She basically friend zoned me, saying she was closest to me though. Seemed weird, my friends telling me, that’s impossible, when they see me and her, it’s like “there are no limits”. (Not physically but person to person). Anyways, lots of drama occurred. The close friend that i referred earlier, also got friend zoned, while backstabbing me and her. Karma’s a B!%@#. Lol. But little did I know, she ended up talking to him again. He played the game, but in a wrong manner. He failed many times with her. I, on the other hand, was always scared of telling her something “wrong” in a sense, I valued whatever we had alot. I thought possibly she will understand that I am the right guy for her. Not saying anything has its consequences too. You can be seemed as gullible and I trusted her “blindly” in a sense, where I wasn’t able to accept the truth. Anyways, back to reality, now the situation is I am going to in a week’s time try to make everything “okay” between us. It has been okay this semester but recently she seems I am mad. I am going to be trying out the pheromones for first time tomorrow. I want to see how she reacts. I will try to deepen our conversation. One week’s time and then I will man up to her and tell her what she did wrong. From that point on, even now honestly, I won’t be a “doormat” for her in any sense. P.S. (That guy was a good friend who backstabbed me for her lol. The girl ended up talking to me and him every other semester. One sem, it was me, other it was him, always looking for a reason to talk to the other person when something goes wrong.) So I will be trying out the sprays for the first time tomorrow. I will let you in on the details in the next post! If anyone has any recommendations, for tomorrow, go for it! ---
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mental-state-of-mind-is-a-start/37220/2 "2010-03-24T02:56:50Z")
**Day 1 with pheromones** Dosage: 2 Sprays Ammo from Full Bottle 1 Spray Instant Openness from To-Go Bottle ----Understand that, this was my first time opening the bottle, so sprays may not have been accurate. I had got IO sprayed on my palm (new bottle and wasn’t coming out) and tried to quickly put the liquid on the 2 sides of my neck and tried to put inside of shirt on chest. (Smelled fresh) Ammo, I sprayed one on my hand and tried to quickly apply on my neck. Second one sprayed on neck. (Musk kind of smell, like a deep smell) Today, my goal was to basically see how my friend (yes the friend zone one, I will call her FZ from now), and how she would react to this change. Every plan of mine went flop. I applied it about 30-40 minutes before seeing her. (Due to something that happened, even though it shouldn’t affect me, I acted kind of pissed off because she finally believes I know something she didn’t tell me completely.) Back to the story: She is always with another friend, hes a guy and she is in no way interested in him. Infact he is FZ’s gal friend’s ex/ongoing -boyfriend. Anyways they were in a room. I went there, I was trying to lighten up the mood this week before trying to talk to her and maybe stop talking to her for a long time or even more. So, I ended up sitting about 7 feet or so away from her and the other guy in a study room. They tried to talk to me in beginning, but I guess they figured I was pissed, so I didn’t say much and they responded with the same. Anyways, they left for class. I called her in night, about 4-5 hours after they left for class. Gave her a reason indirectly that I was upset because I did horrible on a class midterm. Anyways, so it seems fine now. As far as other girls go, I was not able to get into close contact with anyone. Possibly may have OD-ed but I doubt it since it was 2 sprays ammo and 1 IO. I was on the campus to campus bus and just a girl trying to look but would turn somewhere else when I looked at her. I was in a building and this older lady, past 30’s walked in.. seemed to walk by me, stopped for a second, looked once, and took off her scarf, put it on her wheel bag and then left. Today, as far as reactions go, not much. Next dose, depending on the day, will be 1 ammo. See how it by itself is. Also, perhaps I noticed minor-hits maybe just because of the mones today. Might be just normally. **Again, from now on I will refer to my friend who put me in the “friend zone” as FZ.** ---
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mental-state-of-mind-is-a-start/37220/3 "2010-03-25T02:28:37Z")
**Day 2 with mones** Dosage: - 1 spray [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) from Full Bottle - 1 spray IO from To-Go Bottle There weren’t much self effects. I maybe slightly felt “good” from the sprays. Not too accurate. Today, though I was in the car with FZ for about 2 minutes as I had to pick up a CD from her. She seemed “normal”. Yesterday she was pissed because I seemed that way. I made it normal the night before. Maybe it was that. As far as other girls go, maybe slight hits. I was walking from one building to another and walked past a girl, not too attractive, but i noticed she kept staring at me. Seemed as if she slowed down when I did. I will know for sure when I make proper use of the mones 😛 Still need to find my sweet spot. Next time, probably going to test it out for real. Will keep you guys posted! ---
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mental-state-of-mind-is-a-start/37220/4 "2010-03-26T03:56:31Z")
**Day 3 with pheromones** --starting to work? Dosage: 2 Sprays [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) from To-Go Bottle 1 Spray CTTM2 from To-Go Bottle The sprays were on the neck front/side neck. Today, trying it out on FZ, then moving onto trying out onto other people. Well, I have tried to let it catch my eye. Me and my friend went into FZ’s car to go get a bagel from a deli shop. She started talking (understand 2 days ago things weren’t well). But I made it better by talking to her on the phone. Anyways, we went into her car and she started talking about random stuff. Felt as if maybe the CTTM2 and IS were taking into affect. I had a smile on my face because I remembered that I was wearing mones. This was about 20-30 mins before I was in the car with her. So then we picked it up and went back to college. After that, we went to college, she dropped us off and then my friend told me that “it felt as if she was forced to talk.” He does not have a clue about pheromones, or atleast that I have them. He said “lately it’s been as if there is tension between you, but she was talking just so you don’t feel bad or something.” I felt it’s a good chance the mones came into affect. Must try it out again 🙂 As far as other people go, felt as if people started talking a bit more. Guys (in my class who just say hi or so) especially but don’t think it was directly related to the mones. I was not able to get too close to other people. Just maybe 1 or 2 women and a few guys. Think this works 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 5:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mental-state-of-mind-is-a-start/37220/5 "2010-03-26T05:01:07Z")
[quote=“seekingadvice, post:4, topic:37220”] **Day 3 with pheromones** --starting to work? Dosage: 2 Sprays **Instant Shine** from To-Go Bottle 1 Spray **CTTM2** from To-Go Bottle Good to hear this report.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 10:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mental-state-of-mind-is-a-start/37220/6 "2010-03-26T10:23:34Z")
Good job man Bitches can be tricky- tracy jr. ---
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mental-state-of-mind-is-a-start/37220/7 "2010-03-29T02:39:41Z")
**Day 4 with Pheromones** Dosage: 1 Spray IS from To-Go Bottle I did it mainly for self effects and to see what the mood would be of friends. Immediate effect to myself, within minutes, of spraying: I felt much better, able to concentrate. (My mind was well beyond drained, trying to study for an exam coming up.) Then as I got to my friends. They thought I was angry at them lol.. but anyways, I was all happy and they seemed fine. I had a smile on my face, but then for a little bit I was back into my complicated mindset, overthinking. But about 20 minutes of the overthinking, and I was feeling good again. -IS is good for self effects as well as making others feel “good”. ---
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mental-state-of-mind-is-a-start/37220/8 "2010-04-20T15:44:03Z")
Hey guys, it’s been a minute since I posted 😛 _Have been trying out A314 slowly_ —good experiences! **Day5 with mones!** Dosage : - 1 drop A314 applied to neck and slight to chin for self effects. - 1 drop IH wrists. Location: College Okay, so I go to college, I walked as if I was confident. I was aware of me putting on a314 and well purposely walked tall. It was good. First respect hit was when I was walking to class, there’s this big guy (6’4 like an arnold), who doesn’t talk much, as I was walking, he completely moved out of my direction. I was walking into a building and he was coming out but he completely moved out of my path. I go and meet up with a friend of mine. Not that close, known him for a while but barely around him until this semester. I acted congruent with A314. He seemed to respect me more. Wouldn’t really question me. Would answer everything I ask/say. A314 in the whole day, seemed to turn around heads actually. I don’t know if it was because of the way my posture was or how I was walking. I think A314 had a bit to do with it 😉 ---
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mental-state-of-mind-is-a-start/37220/9 "2010-04-20T15:53:21Z")
**Day6 with mones!** Dosage : - 1 drop A314 applied to neck and slight to chin for self effects. - 3 drops IH: neck, elbow (biceps), wrist. - 1 drop A1 neck. (Might have been too strong) Okay, big day. I was supposed to talk to a friend tell her I still have feelings for her but I don’t have time for a relationship. (keep in mind she supposedly never had feelings for anyone) I’ve told her a year ago I had feelings she said, well I don’t have feelings for you yet I’m the closest to you to sum it all up. Okay, so I told her exactly that I need to work on myself and I need to get my things straightened up. I “admit I have feelings for you but let’s just be friends because I have to sort some things out”… She thought I was saying that because she has a tendency to stop talking once she finds out someone has feelings for her or atleast she thought I thought that. She concluded: I’m never going to have anything against you and I’m not going to stop talking because you have feelings for me. I know that’s how you feel, I don’t want to tell you to wait, I don’t know what type of guy I want. **The [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) kicked in!** Before, about a year ago, it was all about the fact that she never had feelings for anyone and so forth. Finally admits she doesn’t know what type of guy she wants. In the end she had to go to work so she said call me if you want to talk about this more, because I know she was expecting something else. Anyways, IH was great. IH, CTTM2, in my other posts, works pretty well. Especially with this girl. The whole day, I went to just shoot hoops with a friend of mine. Alot of people came in (asian). They did not say much, but they started shooting around once they asked us, we let them. The entire time, I felt respected. They did not say much, yet respected. Giving the ball if I make it in, right away. ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mental-state-of-mind-is-a-start/37220/10 "2010-04-20T19:27:53Z")
> [@seekingadvice](#): > > Hey guys, it’s been a minute since I posted 😛 _Have been trying out A314 slowly_ —good experiences! > > **Day5 with mones!** > > Dosage : > > - 1 drop A314 applied to neck and slight to chin for self effects. > - 1 drop IH wrists. > > Location: College > > Okay, so I go to college, I walked as if I was confident. I was **aware** of me putting on a314 and well **purposely** walked tall. It was good. First respect hit was when I was walking to class, there’s this big guy (6’4 like an arnold), who doesn’t talk much, as I was walking, he completely moved out of my direction. I was walking into a building and he was coming out but he completely moved out of my path. > > I go and meet up with a friend of mine. Not that close, known him for a while but barely around him until this semester. I acted **congruent** with A314. He seemed to respect me more. Wouldn’t really question me. Would answer everything I ask/say. > > A314 in **the whole day** , seemed to turn around heads actually. I don’t know if it was because of the way my posture was or how I was walking. I think A314 had a bit to do with it 😉 HaHa!!! “Answer everything I asked” that’s what I’am talking about. Go!!! ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mental-state-of-mind-is-a-start/37220/11 "2010-04-20T19:44:19Z")
> [@seekingadvice](#): > > **Day6 with mones!** > > Dosage : > > - 1 drop A314 applied to neck and slight to chin for self effects. > - 3 drops IH: neck, elbow (biceps), wrist. > - 1 drop A1 neck. (Might have been too strong) > > Okay, big day. I was supposed to talk to a friend tell her I still have feelings for her but I don’t have time for a relationship. (keep in mind she supposedly never had feelings for anyone) I’ve told her a year ago I had feelings she said, well I don’t have feelings for you yet I’m the closest to you to sum it all up. > > Okay, so I told her exactly that I need to work on myself and I need to get my things straightened up. I “admit I have feelings for you but let’s just be friends because I have to sort some things out”… She thought I was saying that because she has a tendency to stop talking once she finds out someone has feelings for her or atleast she thought I thought that. She concluded: I’m never going to have anything against you and I’m not going to stop talking because you have feelings for me. I know that’s how you feel, I don’t want to tell you to wait, I don’t know what type of guy I want. **The Instant Honesty kicked in!** Before, about a year ago, it was all about the fact that she never had feelings for anyone and so forth. Finally admits she doesn’t know what type of guy she wants. > > In the end she had to go to work so she said call me if you want to talk about this more, because **I know** she was **expecting** something else. > > Anyways, IH was great. IH, CTTM2, in my other posts, works pretty well. Especially with this girl. > > The whole day, I went to just shoot hoops with a friend of mine. Alot of people came in (asian). They did not say much, but they started shooting around once they asked us, we let them. The entire time, I felt respected. They did not say much, yet respected. Giving the ball if I make it in, right away. I like this report. Seek stay on top!🙂 I had some [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) in my pocket today, just carrying for stand by action. I had an appointment, the nurse was somewhat busy doing her job and didn’t really want to really conservate, I knew before hand that the staff members were off limits. shouldn’t be my type. As she exam my leg area she had her chest touching my body, 😮and I was like- Whattttttt- it was a trip. ;)I was thinking what would it been like if I had like 4 sprays of Instant Honesty to break that professional barrier down completely. ---
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 3:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mental-state-of-mind-is-a-start/37220/12 "2010-04-21T03:34:52Z")
> [@MVKBUGATTI](#): > > I like this report. Seek stay on top!🙂 > > I had some Instant Honesty in my pocket today, just carrying for stand by action. I had an appointment, the nurse was somewhat busy doing her job and didn’t really want to really conservate, I knew before hand that the staff members were off limits. shouldn’t be my type. As she exam my leg area she had **her chest touching my body, 😮and I was like- Whattttttt- it was a trip. ;)I was thinking what would it been like if I had like 4 sprays of Instant Honesty to break that professional barrier down completely.** HAHAHAH! I wonder… funnn times for you MVK 😛 I would like to see this happen again, if you get a chance, try with more sprays at some point 😛 MVK, something makes me wonder, IH wouldn’t ALWAYS be good now would it? It brings out the honest idea on their tongue and you would like to get something done by them. IH would ideally be wrong? What would you replace it with? Just a idea for later thoughts 😛 ---
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mental-state-of-mind-is-a-start/37220/13 "2010-04-21T15:19:06Z")
**Day 7 with mones!** Dosage: - 1 drop A314 applied to neck and slightly on chin - 2 sprays IO applied to neck and wrist (split) This one was a fun experiment 😛 I wanted to use it to ask the professor if I can take my exam on a following day, giving me one more day to study LOL. Before I went to ask, as I arrived in college, I got a slight respect boost, from a friend who has never been exposed to any mones I’ve wore. Good sign 🙂 Then went to professor’s office, asked him, ofcourse giving him an excuse of a reception to attend, I acted confident, and he said “yeah yeah sure you can take it the next day in my other class” ^JACKPOT! 🙂 I was happy. But what happened was the day I was scheduled for exam (it’s a once a week Tuesday class while the other one is a monday/wednesday class), he cancelled it! and The wednesday exam is still on. Such a bummer lol. It’s okay I won’t be going in today and rather go to my original class next week hehe. Funny stuff.. Later that day went onto the bus rides (from one campus to another) I see respect hits, though people did not talk, I saw some of them avoiding eye-contact, if they catch me looking, they look somewhere else. Great fun 🙂 Today, I’m going to be experimenting with hmm, dunno yet, but will be going on some avenue where loads and loads of people, especially cute girls go in and out of the campus center and classes 🙂 WISH ME LUCK! ---
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mental-state-of-mind-is-a-start/37220/14 "2010-05-09T02:07:57Z")
**Another Day with Pheromones!** I am re-posting from the thread I made in the Men’s Tricks section. I have had a decent gap between using more mones. So it is finals time and I decided to see what was capable just for fun 🙂) * * * Warning: Not a good idea to wear CTTM2 to a FINAL Exam. Application: –2 sprays CTTM2 : 1 to left wrist and other to right side of neck. –2 sprays [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/): 1 on chest and other on chin. –Half a can of Monster. So I had an exam at 8 in the morning. Almost slept in, but woke up and got ready very quickly and ended up only being 5 minutes late to the exam. Seats availability of choice was very low. Ended up sitting next to a guy and a girl I somewhat know to the other side. Went to the professor, quickly got my exam sheets and went to my seat. The guy who was next to me, said “what’s up?”.. this is a final and I find it okay to say what’s up but some people just don’t utter a word. My reply was the same. 2 minutes into this and the girl on the other side asked “did you study?” (I found it a bit late to ask me the question and seek out the answer to that as we were already into the final lol ) I replied: Not as much as you. More times goes on and I walk up to the professor and ask questions, he is usually nice about it, but he seemed extra nice and felt like he was helping me out a bit more with specific details hehe. Dam these mones on Exams are such a blessing to my GPA. Will test it out next exam (tough one as it’s going to be a strict d\*ck of a professor). Go back to my seat, the guy and the girl had a smile on their face. Couple more minutes go by and BOOM. I just felt good. Yes, I did felt and therefore acted happy, as I stopped worrying too much about things, so I started popping a beat on the desk. Guy next to me goes, “dam, you got some beats”. This is all in a middle of an important as hell final exam lol. I stopped after. I continued with my exam, I was feeling very calm, yes all my applications had a bit to do with it, well more than a bit hehe but mentally as well, I was doing good. The professor walked out of class for about 2 minutes. The girl next to me says “you getting everything?”, I reply “depends, you going to GET ME on a few?” then I say, “I’m doing alright”… The guy next to me started using his phone to find some answers. We ended up having some kind of random conversation and laughing in the middle of a FINAL. It was hilarious as neither me or him finished the final on time (3 hours scheduled time) and instead we ended up “chilling” on the exam and took an extra 30 minutes on top of the scheduled 3 hours. No, we were not the only ones who stayed more than 3 hours, there was approximately half of the class who continued on their exam. Finally, I ended up going to hand in my exam and had one last question and professor explains to me and asks me something that I was not sure of since I was questioning him on that subject. He states “GO BACK, and FIX IT” in a friendly way. I walk up with a smile and fix it and go back and return my exam. If all exams went like this, shoot, people would love EXAMS. Later on, after exam, I saw the guy who was next to me with the girl who was next to me. I somewhat know them, and they were with a few other people that I have maybe seen once or twice in the whole of this semester. Ended up talking alot I cracked jokes, was fun, light and pleasant atmosphere. Good stuff 🙄 * * * Will be trying some sort of a similar mix on another final (maybe) if I’m prepared well enough hehe!