# MEO-EST and why I need to speak with you:) **URL:** \ **Category:** Store Announcements & Feedback\ **Created:** [November 6, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-and-why-i-need-to-speak-with-you/33887 "2009-11-06T20:36:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-and-why-i-need-to-speak-with-you/33887/1 "2009-11-06T20:36:58Z")
OK guys and girls, there’s been a MASSIVE run on MEO-EST in the store at 50 and 100MCG per spray and those orders have been stopped. All of you recieved a support ticket from me. Here’s the deal, while I understand that many of you have read the same reports that I have, please do NOT tell me that EVERYONE says its only good at such high dosages. MEO-EST is one of those delicious little molecules that are used in so many of our mixes and at such tiny little dosages that without it, well then most of your favorite MX’s are gone too. I need to stress that while I do not have access to any of the formulas I can almost guess which ones have it in there. My fellow PheroTalk friends, MEO-EST is a succulent morsel of desire that is very much like TAF in its application. TAF used in very high dosages is like drinking moonshine. Sure its effects are so much more noticeable than drinking a glass of wine and sure its in your face, but with wine its more warm, charismatic, refined, comfortable. I also did some research going back a ways and found where this whole 100mcg thing came from. Many of you are going on the advice of a person who also said [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) was worthless and not usable. I can assure you while this person is not trying to mislead you they are vastly different from most people on this forum. Just do a search on MEO-EST and you will find reports of very good research usages at 2.5 to 20 mcg per spray. [MEO-EST report & Pick-up Chillax sexy mofo](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-report-pick-up-chillax-sexy-mofo/50764) > [@Dude where's my burger...the TAF, MEO-EST memory lapse](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dude-wheres-my-burger-the-taf-meo-est-memory-lapse/9072): > > So I got my package of TAF and MEO-EST. I Sprayed two side of my head with TAF @ 2.5mcg and a Spritz of MEO-EST @ 10mcg to my hands. I wasn’t dizzy but i notice a little bit of time lasp between frames. Kind of like watching a show where someone flashes popcorn at you for a split micro second. I could have been imagining. Then I start to feel a little itch in my pants…(not that kind of itch) like there was something crawling on me. it was an ant, when I saw it i freaked out. i can’t really say … 10mcg per spray > [@Observations on MEO-EST](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-on-meo-est/9433): > > I was intrigued about the variety of effects people have described and attributed to MEO-EST, without any clear consensus of what it does. So, for the last five days or so, I have been using MEO-EST by itself to determine its effects. I began testing at 15mcg, with few noticeable results, with far more noticeable results at about 45mcg-60mcg, applied on neck and face. This is what I have noticed: All results I’ve noticed so far seem purely self-oriented. It has produced many strange and v… 45 mcg > [@Overdue: EST, MEO-EST, and Further P83+P74+P79 testing.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdue-est-meo-est-and-further-p83-p74-p79-testing/10577): > > I’m having a long weekend after several weeks of business trips, and thought to post some results. During the past month, I’ve been testing EST and MEO-EST on on-off basis, so here it is: EST: In general, I believe EST tends to create that protect vibe. In other words, people exposed to EST get a sense that they need to “protect” the wearer of this [pheromone](https://a314.com/). This tends to create a different type of respect (in contrast to Androsterone), where people exposed to it let you “have it your way.… > [@My Ultimate Business MIX - Help Appreciated !](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-ultimate-business-mix-help-appreciated/12156): > > Hi there all. I am starting this topic here. Lets hope some outher advanced users read it and help out. So i made 2 variation of the mix. I think varian A is the most potent one. This MIX is intendet to go with A314 ! 2-3 Drops of A314 + My Mix. Enough talking here is the mix itself [image] Leave you comment and sugestions pls. 2 to 20 mcg of MEO-EST > [@Is MEO-EST the mysterious MX292 buffer?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-the-mysterious-mx292-buffer/26069): > > Hmm. Hmm. My run tonight was : one layer of “spray, let dry, spray” of MEO @ 12.5 followed by 1x TUTH followed by 1x 292; complimented by 3 sprays more 292 distributed to neck line. It seems that MEO seems to buffer the additional TUTH -none vibe and push it more towards the balanced line. Whereas 4x 292 + 1x TUTH usually puts most of my “dude” friends in a bit of a recluse mode, this seems to shift it back to the point where we are good good good buds. Girls are flirty, and touchy still, b… 12.5 mcg There are many, many more at low dosage Right now I don’t have enough to make all those 100mcg per spray bottles. If you want it you will need to be a reporting user and I can only do such high dosages at 5 ml. Otherwise it just isn’t available and raises questions about the actual research abilities of reporting users. We have always said to go at molecules with a clean slate so if your argument is that someone else reported on it and you are basing your entire research on another researcher, I really need to reevaluate if the feedback being provided by you is of the highest quality or you are simply jumping on the curtails of another user. Please base your research on your own findings. The best place to start testing a molecule is 12.5 mcg per spray ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-and-why-i-need-to-speak-with-you/33887/2 "2009-11-06T20:39:36Z")
Thanks for the heads up Steve, I wasn’t aware of this my self so thank you. It will actually save us on some money with not having to buy the high expensive mcg stuff. > [@Steve](#): > > OK guys and girls, there’s been a MASSIVE run on MEO-EST in the store at 50 and 100MCG per spray and those orders have been stopped. All of you recieved a support ticket from me. > > Here’s the deal, while I understand that many of you have read the same reports that I have, please do NOT tell me that EVERYONE says its only good at such high dosages. MEO-EST is one of those delicious little molecules that are used in so many of our mixes and at such tiny little dosages that without it, well then most of your favorite MX’s are gone too. I need to stress that while I do not have access to any of the formulas I can almost guess which ones have it in there. > > My fellow PheroTalk friends, MEO-EST is a succulent morsel of desire that is very much like TAF in its application. TAF used in very high dosages is like drinking moonshine. Sure its effects are so much more noticeable than drinking a glass of wine and sure its in your face, but with wine its more warm, charismatic, refined, comfortable. > > I also did some research going back a ways and found where this whole 100mcg thing came from. Many of you are going on the advice of a person who also said P83 was worthless and not usable. I can assure you while this person is not trying to mislead you they are vastly different from most people on this forum. > > Just do a search on MEO-EST and you will find reports of very good research usages at 2.5 to 20 mcg per spray. > > [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/meo-est-report-13057.html](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-report-pick-up-chillax-sexy-mofo/50764) > > [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dude-wheres-my-burger-the-taf-meo-est-memory-lapse/9072/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dude-wheres-my-burger-the-taf-meo-est-memory-lapse/9072) > 10mcg per spray > > [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-on-meo-est/9433/3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-on-meo-est/9433) > 45 mcg > > [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdue-est-meo-est-and-further-p83-p74-p79-testing/10577/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/overdue-est-meo-est-and-further-p83-p74-p79-testing/10577) > > [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-ultimate-business-mix-help-appreciated/12156/10](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-ultimate-business-mix-help-appreciated/12156) > > 2 to 20 mcg of MEO-EST > > [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-the-mysterious-mx292-buffer/26069/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-the-mysterious-mx292-buffer/26069) > > 12.5 mcg > > There are many, many more at low dosage > > Right now I don’t have enough to make all those 100mcg per spray bottles. If you want it you will need to be a reporting user and I can only do such high dosages at 5 ml. Otherwise it just isn’t available and raises questions about the actual research abilities of reporting users. We have always said to go at molecules with a clean slate so if your argument is that someone else reported on it and you are basing your entire research on another researcher, I really need to reevaluate if the feedback being provided by you is of the highest quality or you are simply jumping on the curtails of another user. > > Please base your research on your own findings. The best place to start testing a molecule is 12.5 mcg per spray. ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-and-why-i-need-to-speak-with-you/33887/3 "2009-11-06T20:48:05Z")
Jeez… Save the Meo-est for me… ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-and-why-i-need-to-speak-with-you/33887/4 "2009-11-12T03:16:36Z")
Certainly, in my experience, Steve is right on this. For me 12.5mcg is just about the optimal dose of MEO-EST. I did several tests some months back adding 2.5mcg at a time and it always came out to be about 12.5mcg that had the most attractive effects. After that I got kind of a “white out” effect; the glare of MEO-EST just started blotting out the subtleties of existence rather than creating a richer experience. MEO-EST really is best in mixes. It enhances the effects of many other [pheromones](https://a314.com/) very nicely. For the cost of 100mcg MEO-EST you could get seven additional pheromones at 12.5mcg and have a much richer, more complex phero signature. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-and-why-i-need-to-speak-with-you/33887/5 "2009-11-12T21:01:23Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > Certainly, in my experience, Steve is right on this. For me 12.5mcg is just about the optimal dose of MEO-EST. I did several tests some months back adding 2.5mcg at a time and it always came out to be about 12.5mcg that had the most attractive effects. After that I got kind of a “white out” effect; the glare of MEO-EST just started blotting out the subtleties of existence rather than creating a richer experience. > > MEO-EST really is best in mixes. It enhances the effects of many other pheromones very nicely. For the cost of 100mcg MEO-EST you could get seven additional pheromones at 12.5mcg and have a much richer, more complex phero signature. Thanks Warren for your most appreciated expert oppinion. I know your words on this forum are revered wisdom and insightful and I do hope that many users will start experimenting with molecules based on their own experiences rather than following in the footsteps of others. Be the leader 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-and-why-i-need-to-speak-with-you/33887/6 "2009-11-12T21:55:42Z")
Hrmm… I was wondering about that - I had noticed effects similar to what was described about MEO-EST in p95 @ 37.5 mcg - Figured it was just coincidence since the prevailing opinion was that MEO-EST effects started @ 100mcg Kind of excited to getting back to testing that p