# Meo-Est left me depressed and lazy: a negative review **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 1, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-left-me-depressed-and-lazy-a-negative-review/34513 "2009-12-01T06:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-left-me-depressed-and-lazy-a-negative-review/34513/1 "2009-12-01T06:09:20Z")
Unlike my other two reviews, and unlike many other people on this forum, I have absolutely nothing good to say about Meo-Est at all. I feel extremely depressed after wearing it for 3-4 hours. So depressed that I don’t even want to go wash it off even though I feel better after I do. It also makes me lazy.. I have not noticed the instant female happy sauce effect as some people have said exist when its used at high doseages. But I wasn’t necessarily looking for it either. It lowers my mood and is the exact opposite of instant shine. More problems then it’s worth. Let’s start the bids on my bottle at ONE CENT! haha 🙂 Hope this helps in some way. ---
**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-left-me-depressed-and-lazy-a-negative-review/34513/2 "2009-12-01T06:16:16Z")
meo est and the instant female magic primary are two different [pheromones](https://a314.com/) though. Snoopyace loooooves meo est, i would recommend selling it to him if that is your plan. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-left-me-depressed-and-lazy-a-negative-review/34513/3 "2009-12-01T14:11:05Z")
> [@Michael721](#): > > I feel extremely depressed after wearing it for 3-4 hours. So depressed that I don’t even want to go wash it off even though I feel better after I do. It also makes me lazy. There’s your answer as to IF IT WORKS! 😉 You may be wearing too much, or not know the difference between relaxed and depressed, Michael. Still, it relaxes, and that’s what you want with the opposite sex, yes? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sicpric](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sicpric](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sicpric)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-left-me-depressed-and-lazy-a-negative-review/34513/4 "2009-12-01T15:41:37Z")
2cents!! ---
**Author:** ![reddog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reddog/32/2091_2.png) [@reddog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reddog)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-left-me-depressed-and-lazy-a-negative-review/34513/5 "2009-12-01T18:54:10Z")
Where did you apply it? Maybe the back of the neck would work for you or inner wrist? I just bought Meo-Est and sure hope I don’t get your response… ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-left-me-depressed-and-lazy-a-negative-review/34513/6 "2009-12-01T19:37:23Z")
I need it back in stock so I can order a 30ml @ 50mcg per spray the self effects on this are fucking amazing couple this w/ a314 (directly under the nostrils) and it’s an in instant cool calm and collected attitude, almost completely unphaseable. I walk w/ such a swagger w/ this combo. ---
**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-left-me-depressed-and-lazy-a-negative-review/34513/7 "2009-12-02T02:50:19Z")
I tried it several times, wanting to get this feeling that you guys are talking about, but never did. You’re right maybe it does make me relaxed as well, because at court giving a closing statement, i’m ususlly really loud and influiential, but when I wore this the judge had to keep asking me to speak up, even though I thought I was being really really loud. I seem to be the only one that has these effects, as per users on this forum nobody else has said anything negative about it, so I’m glad it works for them, and reddog I put it on my neck,at the dosage recomended by k-train 120 mcgs. I’m glad it works for you guys. Just being honest here 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-left-me-depressed-and-lazy-a-negative-review/34513/8 "2009-12-02T03:38:58Z")
> [@Michael721](#): > > I tried it several times, wanting to get this feeling that you guys are talking about, but never did. You’re right maybe it does make me relaxed as well, because at court giving a closing statement, i’m ususlly really loud and influiential, but when I wore this the judge had to keep asking me to speak up, even though I thought I was being really really loud. I seem to be the only one that has these effects, as per users on this forum nobody else has said anything negative about it, so I’m glad it works for them, and reddog I put it on my neck,at the dosage recomended by k-train 120 mcgs. > > I’m glad it works for you guys. Just being honest here 🙂 Just out of curiosity, have you tried it at around 15-25mcg? It could just be that for you, that much is an OD. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-left-me-depressed-and-lazy-a-negative-review/34513/9 "2009-12-02T03:57:33Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I also did some research going back a ways and found where this whole 100mcg thing came from. Many of you are going on the advice of a person who also said P83 was worthless and not usable. I can assure you while this person is not trying to mislead you they are vastly different from most people on this forum. > > Just do a search on MEO-EST and you will find reports of very good research usages at 2.5 to 20 mcg per spray. Personally, I find that the best dose of MEO-EST is about 10mcg. I also find it is best mixed with other pheromones. By itself it is completely unpredictable. I am not at all surprised by your bad trip, Michael721. I would never use it anywhere near 120mcg and certainly not by itself. With much lower doses, I have had similar bad experiences with MEO-EST, lying on the floor crying uncontrollably (for no reason) followed by abrupt and unpredictable mood changes. I think of MEO-EST as a kind of M.S.G. of pheromones. It enhances the effects of many other pheromones very nicely. Only small amounts are needed.