# Meo-Est...so how do you like it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 27, 2008, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506 "2008-06-27T03:53:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![djacquelyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djacquelyn/32/2180_2.png) [@djacquelyn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djacquelyn)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/1 "2008-06-27T03:53:17Z")
Hello ladies, I Haven’t found many post regarding Meo-Est, and I was wondering if any of the ladies could share some of their opinions/history with this product. i.e., how did it make guys act in response?.were there any self effects? As far as what I have read and understand about this, it is “the cuddle” [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) Mine(Meo-Est) was just shipped out by the way 🙂 . Thanks ladies . ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 12:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/2 "2008-06-27T12:03:36Z")
I’ve never tried it but here’s a title search for you: `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/search.php?searchid=196625` ---
**Author:** ![djacquelyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djacquelyn/32/2180_2.png) [@djacquelyn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djacquelyn)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/3 "2008-06-27T12:33:15Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > I’ve never tried it but here’s a title search for you: > > `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/search.php?searchid=196625` Carrie…very much appreciated. Thank you 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2008, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/4 "2008-06-28T20:08:46Z")
I though Est was the cuddle pheromone and Meo-Est was the “change agent” pheromone… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/5 "2008-06-29T01:00:08Z")
Meo Est seems to be a companion pheromone. Its works best when used with another mix. Its not cuddly in itself, but by using other pheromones like TAH or Instant Sexiness it can bring you new and sometimes better results. I use it once in a while. My husband responds really well to IS/A, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and Meo-Est when I layer them. He is more affectionate but I wouldn’t call it cuddly. If I use it on its own it makes me busy, Its the only way I can describe the feeling. My mind fills with things I need to get done. Oddly enough when I use it with other products I dont feel this effect. If you want something closer to EST get P74. P74 has a bonding, attentive vibe to it. They no longer sell EST here due to patent laws. The same company that has a patent on Androstadienone has a patent on EST and it cant be used in a mix at this time so Jasmin decided since she cant use it in mixes to discontinue it till they can. Here is a good thread on Meo-Est > [@methoxy. and estrateraenol](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/methoxy-and-estrateraenol/97): > > What are the key differences between the effects of estratraenol and methoxyest. on men, when either is worn by women? I’m a bit foggy on how the effects of each differ. Thanks. So far from data there is no specific vibe or reaction that can be determined. It seems to work differently on each user. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![djacquelyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djacquelyn/32/2180_2.png) [@djacquelyn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djacquelyn)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/6 "2008-06-29T01:29:08Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Meo Est seems to be a companion pheromone. Its works best when used with another mix. > > Its not cuddly in itself, but by using other pheromones like TAH or Instant Sexiness it can bring you new and sometimes better results. > > I use it once in a while. My husband responds really well to IS/A, Instant Honesty and Meo-Est when I layer them. He is more affectionate but I wouldn’t call it cuddly. If I use it on its own it makes me busy, Its the only way I can describe the feeling. My mind fills with things I need to get done. Oddly enough when I use it with other products I dont feel this effect. > > If you want something closer to EST get P74. P74 has a bonding, attentive vibe to it. They no longer sell EST here due to patent laws. The same company that has a patent on Androstadienone has a patent on EST and it cant be used in a mix at this time so Jasmin decided since she cant use it in mixes to discontinue it till they can. > > Here is a good thread on Meo-Est > > [methoxy. and estrateraenol](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/methoxy-and-estrateraenol/97) > > So far from data there is no specific vibe or reaction that can be determined. It seems to work differently on each user. > > Tisha Hey Tish, Funny you should reply to this post with advice/info regarding p74, cause I read another post you responded to earlier today and I put some [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) in my basket just cause of what you advised in that case…so it looks like im’a get me some p74 definitely…can’t wait til 7/5 cause thats when I can put my order through…though after reading I can better understand about meo-est and in that sense I am happy I purchased it. Thanks, djacquelyn ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/7 "2008-06-29T01:37:57Z")
Just be advised, I have both [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) and EST and I like EST from androtics the best out of the 2, I wish they still sold it and cant wait till the darn Patent is up. P74 is not as attentive as EST but it does create a great bonded intimate loving feeling I tried it from another vendor who sells it unmixed, I got a sample from a friend and was very hopeful but I didnt get anything from it so I am sticking with P74 for now. Lovescent sells it for around the same price androtics did and I have heard good things about theres. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/8 "2008-06-29T03:09:56Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Lovescent sells it for around the same price Androtics did and I have heard good things about theres. Wait, L-S sells EST?? 😮 ---
**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 5:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/9 "2008-06-29T05:08:24Z")
yup 🙂 im debating purchasing it also… or i might just stick to p74 cuz im broke ☹ i dont know yet… ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 5:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/10 "2008-06-29T05:50:09Z")
I purchased meo-est in a weak strength and couldn’t decipher exactly what the effect was. Certainly nothing like estratetraenol. I’ll have to try it layered to re-evaluate. L-S est scares me. LOL The label and description. I’ve tried the other source and while it has some positive effect it just isn’t the same as Androtics est that I love. While we’re comparing putatives to est again, Tisha what do you know of p96? Will it ever be in stock again? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/11 "2008-06-29T08:57:29Z")
Yes Jazzy did mention you need alot to pick up on the results with this one. I am waiting on that one to inkling, I will ask Steve when and if it will. I imagine that it will though because its one of the more popular putatives. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![djacquelyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djacquelyn/32/2180_2.png) [@djacquelyn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djacquelyn)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/12 "2008-06-29T12:40:20Z")
> [@inkling](#): > > I purchased meo-est in a weak strength and couldn’t decipher exactly what the effect was. Certainly nothing like estratetraenol. I’ll have to try it layered to re-evaluate. > > L-S est scares me. LOL The label and description. I’ve tried the other source and while it has some positive effect it just isn’t the same as Androtics est that I love. > > While we’re comparing putatives to est again, Tisha what do you know of p96? Will it ever be in stock again? I searched the LS site and couldn’t find est…does it use another name perhaps…I would like to know just so I can see the price for myself…but for now I will take Tish up on her advice and order some [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) Have a super Sunday ladies, djacquelyn ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 1:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/13 "2008-06-29T13:16:34Z")
Its under kits and supplies 😉 ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/14 "2008-06-29T22:55:43Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Yes Jazzy did mention you need alot to pick up on the results with this one. > > I am waiting on that one to inkling, I will ask Steve when and if it will. I imagine that it will though because its one of the more popular putatives. > > Tisha That would be great to see in stock again. From what I’ve read I get the impression that it is a more feminine putative. I think woman as a whole are less likely to test many putatives because we just aren’t willing to risk the cost of a putative that may be completely useless to us. Women in general just don’t waste money that way. I for one would be all over the putatives if there were ones meant for women to test marked clearly as the mx’s are. ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/15 "2008-06-29T23:27:36Z")
> [@inkling](#): > > That would be great to see in stock again. From what I’ve read I get the impression that it is a more feminine putative. I think woman as a whole are less likely to test many putatives because we just aren’t willing to risk the cost of a putative that may be completely useless to us. Women in general just don’t waste money that way. I for one would be all over the putatives if there were ones meant for women to test marked clearly as the mx’s are. I agree wholeheartedly with this. I would certainly buy more of them for testing if I knew they were geared toward women. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2008, 9:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/16 "2008-06-30T09:11:47Z")
Thata a catch 22 there, They wont know if they are geared toward women until the women test them and tell them the results but the women wont test them until they know if they are geared toward women. 😛 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2008, 10:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/17 "2008-06-30T10:25:16Z")
> [@inkling](#): > > While we’re comparing putatives to est again, Tisha what do you know of p96? Will it ever be in stock again? Tacitus definitely seemed to love it… P96 seems to be one of the few putatives that are genuinely calming… I can see why he used it with something like [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) which can feel like some kind of caffeinated social lubricant… > [@Will we ever see P96 on the shelf again ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-we-ever-see-p96-on-the-shelf-again/5866/2): > > Tater thinks that might go well with biscuits! tacitus (October 4, 2007): " [![](https://pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/icons/icon1.gif) ](https://pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/icons/icon1.gif) **Will we ever see P96 on the shelf again ?** [P96](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is like a good flavoring such as they put in the expensive milkshakes, Italian Hazelnut comes to mind… almost want to cook with it so sweet and mellow… [![](https://pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/smilies/tongue.gif) ](https://pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/smilies/tongue.gif) " > [@Test Subjects Wanted: Please Inquire Within, Only Healthy May Apply!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/test-subjects-wanted-please-inquire-within-only-healthy-may-apply/6137/4): > > Another job for P96… I’ve been more than happy with a [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/)/P86/P96 combination for mellow deep groove hang out vibes… too much beta-nol can produce “oversharing”… tacitus (October 20, 2007): “Another job for [P96](https://pheromonelabs.com/)… I’ve been more than happy with a [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/)/P86/P96 combination for mellow deep groove hang out vibes… too much beta-Androstenol can produce “oversharing”…” ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-so-how-do-you-like-it/14506/18 "2008-06-30T12:38:05Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Thata a catch 22 there, > > They wont know if they are geared toward women until the women test them and tell them the results but the women wont test them until they know if they are geared toward women. 😛 > > Tisha LOL too true. I would be willing to test one newer putative a month and it could be fun if we tested as a group and posted results together to one post. If we all held off posting our opinions to the same day or week we wouldn’t be influencing each others opinions. I know you already have a huge work load here, but if you were to choose the putative and post for those interested in joining it might liven things up around here and we could have some fun. A poll might give an idea of how many are actually interested, I’d hate to see it turn out with just a few testing. If it means new products for women we need to get our rears in gear. 😃 > [@Socrates](#): > > Tacitus definitely seemed to love it… P96 seems to be one of the few putatives that are genuinely calming… I can see why he used it with something like P74 which can feel like some kind of caffeinated social lubricant… > > [Will we ever see P96 on the shelf again ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-we-ever-see-p96-on-the-shelf-again/5866/2) > tacitus (October 4, 2007): > " > > [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/icons/icon1.gif](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/icons/icon1.gif) > > **Will we ever see P96 on the shelf again ?** > [P96](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is like a good flavoring such as they put in the expensive milkshakes, Italian Hazelnut comes to mind… almost want to cook with it so sweet and mellow… > > [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/smilies/tongue.gif](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/smilies/tongue.gif) > > " > > [Test Subjects Wanted: Please Inquire Within, Only Healthy May Apply!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/test-subjects-wanted-please-inquire-within-only-healthy-may-apply/6137/4) > tacitus (October 20, 2007): > “Another job for [P96](https://pheromonelabs.com/)… I’ve been more than happy with a [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/)/P86/P96 combination for mellow deep groove hang out vibes… too much beta-Androstenol can produce “oversharing”…” My interest in p96 was sparked by taking a peek at the spread sheet in your sig. Visionary. > [@Aha ! P96.... unlike other pheromones...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aha-p96-unlike-other-pheromones/2972): > > with perhaps the exception of Androstenone… P96 is a diffferent can of worms, it is almost a perfumers fragrance, with the closest match to “young fertile ovulating woman” skin scent… a deep, sweet, musky-sandalwood … reminds me a bit of IsoE Super, which it could well be related to, as IsoE is a phermone fragment of sorts… unlike everything else except -None, P96 is incredibly tenacious, surviving a soapy bath, a shower, and eight hours of sleep on my forearm… in perfumer’s language, it stays “… This is the post that that sealed the deal. Tacitus described the scent as “young fertile ovulating woman” skin scent. Pheroquirk compared the calming effect to estratetraenol. Definitely something I would like to test and mix with for something more comparable to est since I am beginning to doubt an est source as effective as what was available at Androtics will be found.