# Meo-EST vs. P78 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 2, 2009, 7:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-vs-p78/31218 "2009-08-02T07:10:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 7:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-vs-p78/31218/1 "2009-08-02T07:10:02Z")
There has been some talk that these two are similar in effects. Key word similar. But different. Tonight I used them in conjunction. A non-specific amount of Meo (finished the bottle which was 12.5 per spray, so between 60 and 90 approximately?) Combined with 1.5 sprays of P78 (12.5 mcg per spray). Good times where had by me. Some people say Meo makes them a bit spacey, I definitely got some of that. Seems to make everything go ok, sometimes Meo can be a bit of a wild card. It really seems to depend on what else you wear it with. P78 doesn’t really space me out, but it makes me feel really good. Fun charismatic. Really great mood enhancer. Both are said to be very uplifting, and maybe even captivating to women. I don’t know about the second, but definitely uplifitng. These are really good at making the women around you feel comfortably and in a great mood. Almost like happy sauce. I don’t know how sexual it is, but it’s definitely not “distancing.” Unless you are dealing with a girl who really doesn’t want anything to do with you (an unavoidable hazard sometimes, some people, they just suck). So think of it as a happy spacing out mood enhancer that makes me feel like I don’t care about drama, just about the good times. I could role with anything and anyone. And everyone is cool with that. Really makes you friends groovy, and helps pull in those who were on the fringe. I like, have good fun. Gravy gravy. These molecules are pretty friendly, I think more people should try them. Might be a little slow on the hit, but give it a few minutes. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 7:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-vs-p78/31218/2 "2009-08-02T07:55:55Z")
Very cool. Never thought of Meo-EST and P78 as being similar. Never really got much from P78, but I will be trying it again soon. Did get really emotional with P78 the first time tho. Cried when a coldplay song came on so definitely not a mood lifter for me 😕 Meo-EST is great for relaxing and sleeping. Not sure about spacey. More snuggly, like a kitten. Great effects tho. Got something kinda similar with Spaceland and IShine except it was more like I have no worries and I’m just happy and having fun. Thanks for the awesome report. You’ve inspired me to use P78 again 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-vs-p78/31218/3 "2009-08-02T15:02:06Z")
Thanks for testing P78 with Meo-Est to help differentiate the qualities of each. > [@happykitsune](#): > > Meo-EST is great for relaxing and sleeping. Not sure about spacey. More snuggly, like a kitten. I LOVE Meo-Est for that very purpose. The snuggly quality it imparts is great when you are with a special someone. I pair it with P83 or TAC quite often (sometimes adding TUTH). I wear it a lot if I am going out to a party or event just because it also does a great job of harmonizing. Other people (both men and women) seem more happy and relaxed and likely to get along. Whenever I’m wearing Meo-Est men seem to want to be my buddy when normally they are more reserved towards me. I figured out that when I want help with something from a guy, I wear this with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 3:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-vs-p78/31218/4 "2009-08-02T15:13:38Z")
harmonizing, that’s the word I’m looking for. I would call both these molecules harmonizing, but in different ways. P78 seems to put me in a positive mood. Meo seems to relax. They seem to work well in conjunction with each other. How much Meo do you typically use Snoopy? ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-vs-p78/31218/5 "2009-08-02T15:16:00Z")
> [@marty](#): > > harmonizing, that’s the word I’m looking for. > I would call both these molecules harmonizing, but in different ways. > P78 seems to put me in a positive mood. > Meo seems to relax. > > They seem to work well in conjunction with each other. > > How much Meo do you typically use Snoopy? I’m one of those nutty people using it at between 100-150 mcg (I have a 50 mcg per spray bottle in grapefruit scent). The grapefruit also blends well with both Game and [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) scents. ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-vs-p78/31218/6 "2009-08-02T16:56:17Z")
Great report Marty. I wear Meo around 100mcgs, and find that it definetly has cuddle and calming qualitys. Paired with TAC, P74, and a little TAA, I have seen reactions close to IFM. My x used to get real cuddly/touchy when I wore: Meo-est-100mcg TAC-15-20mcg P83-60mcg P74-12.5mcg sometimes a shot or 2 of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). I am going to have to order something in grapefruit scent to try it out. Alot of people are saying poaitive things about it. ---
**Author:** ![yogalefty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a9a28c/32.png) [@yogalefty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yogalefty)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-vs-p78/31218/7 "2009-08-02T17:02:20Z")
P78 has been a grand slam for me in terms of mood enhancement, charisma, and overall female mood around me. I have had more people say “I like him, he’s fun, I like him, he’s funny” while I was standing somewhere else than I ever thought possible. Meo-est has been great for rem sleep for me, but it has made me spacey and so disoriented when I try and study that I’d be better off not studying.. I guess I should test the two in conjunction! ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-vs-p78/31218/8 "2009-08-02T19:20:10Z")
Wow, with all you guys using Meo at 50 and 100 mcg I feel like I’m missing out on even more relaxation. I was able to relax with 25 mcg, but now I’m curious.. hmm.. ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-vs-p78/31218/9 "2009-08-02T19:37:52Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > Wow, with all you guys using Meo at 50 and 100 mcg I feel like I’m missing out on even more relaxation. I was able to relax with 25 mcg, but now I’m curious.. hmm.. Let us know the effects. I am interested to see how it affects you. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meo-est-vs-p78/31218/10 "2009-08-02T19:39:03Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > Let us know the effects. I am interested to see how it affects you. Of course. I’m not one to keep many secrets 😉