My somewhat inconclusive reflections on my time spent using meo-est:
I received a 10 mcg/spray bottle of this odd stuff a while back (a little over a month ago?), and still have between 20 and 40 sprays left, which I will come back to in 2-3 months when I am willing to test it as a standalone.
I conducted very few tests using MEO-EST on its own, without other pheromone products, and so I can’t give any concrete idea of the effects it might have on other people. I do know that after a while of using it, I felt it added something positive to my interactions with some women (but have no idea what), which was why I kept adding it to my mixes. Also, I liked the light Neroli scent it came with.
The one ‘hit’ I may be able to attribute to the meo-est was with this one girl (who is 1/4 Native American) in one of my classes, who is only 16, yet somehow in college and a sorority already. I obviously have no interest in her (read: her age, above), and she is also allegedly engaged, but one day on which I applied 3 to 5 sprays of meo-est throughout the day (which is more than I usually add), me and 2 other guys from the class were working on completing some of the questions from the study packet for the upcoming exam after class, and she was in the computer lab. She came over to us and started helping us with the questions, using the pretense that she wanted to make sure her answers were right. After we finished working on it, I started working on something else, the other 2 guys in the class left, and then she did too. Then, about 5 minutes later, she came back into the computer lab to get my phone number so she could ‘check answers’ later (I gave her the phone number, but my attitude underlying all communication with her made clear that I am not interested in anything outside an academic relationship, and that’s all it has been). We corresponded through phone and numerous text messages during the 2 days up to the exam (she is apparently one of those people who sends hundreds of text messages a day), and the day of the exam I met her in the lobby of the building class meets in, where pretty much everyone from the class was. I wore between 4 and 8 sprays of meo-est throughout the day (don’t remember when I applied it, or exactly how much, only that it was slightly more than the previous encounter with her, which was more than my usual use). When I got there, she made herself pretty much my personal tutor, correcting the answers that were wrong on my study packet, quizzing me, etc. The whole time she was acting ridiculously giddy, looking at me when she thought I wasn’t looking at her, touching me constantly for any reason, laughing at the dumb things I would say, and just acting like she was high on something in general (she wasn’t). At one point I said something funny which also validated her in some way (I don’t remember exactly what), and she started laughing then put her head on my shoulder for a split second, then pulled away, as if she was either confused or discombobulated (I believe the distinction is whether or not she was consciously aware of her bizarre behavior – I don’t believe she was).
Since then, I toned down my use of meo-est when going to that class, and her behavior has normalized.
I should add the following: In this period of time I was regularly using 2 drops mutantA314, in addition to 1-2 sprays of TE, so both days I most likely had these applications on as well. In addition, she hurt her leg sometime between the first and second account of interaction with her, and came into class the day of the exam using a crutch. It’s possible she had taken some kind of opiate, but I don’t believe it to be the case because I’m pretty sure I would have asked her and remembered if she had been, and because she was there to take her exam.
Now, onto the effects of meo-est on myself:
I conducted two serious tests of the effects of meo-est on myself, and can say that unless there is a narrow window of optimal effects that I keep under/over-shooting, it has absolutely none of the effects on me that other users have been reporting (making me want to clean things, a ‘nesting’ instinct).
The day I received it, I put a bunch on the skin right above my lip and under my nose. The way I did this was to unscrew the sprayhead, dip the bottom of the dangling sprayhead straw/tube/pipe-thing into the liquid, then dab the little droplet the collects on the bottom of the straw to the area right under my nose.
(aside: this is actually a favorite new method of application for me, and I will probably be using it for all new products that come with screwtop sprayheads, at least a few times, because it has the following advantages: 1)like dropping, and unlike spraying and dabbing, nothing is wasted [with dabbing, you have to dab to your finger or hands first before smearing it on another area] 2) like dabbing, and unlike spraying and dropping, you can easily and precisely apply a concentrated amount to a small area on any part of your body. With spraying, you get a wider area than you might intend. With dropping, some areas are hard to reach – imagine trying to put a drop on the underside of your chin.)
The effects were pretty strong, and made me feel fatigued, but in a strange way that I’m not sure would help me get to sleep. I don’t know how to describe it, but it did not lend itself at all to productivity. The effects were similar, but not completely like, the following I’ve consumed at one point : weed, car exhaust (I drove around for a long time in a very old second-hand car that leaked exhaust), methadone (I’ve only tried this once). I did not feel creative or inspired as some report with weed.
So I felt really stupid, and decided that I must have actually experienced some kind of sick buzz from breathing the fumes off the alcohol in the product, and designed a slightly different test. I dabbed a lot probably 50 mcg+ onto one thumb, waiting for my thumb to dry down every time it got saturated with alcohol. After a while, I began breathing just the neroli fumes directly from my thumb (which smelled really strongly of neroli at this point). Same effects as the previous test. I lay on a futon for a while, thinking about how much I felt like not doing anything, and I didn’t get anything done that night. Eventually, I fell asleep, and slept for 9 hours (which is a lot of sleep for me). 8 hours into my little siesta, I was supposed to wake up, but instead had what I believe was the most vivid and strange dream of my entire life, which I completely thought was reality at the time, and continued to for about half an hour after waking up: I thought my mom had discovered my pheromone use, as well as something I had jotted down into a notebook a few months earlier, which I’d rather not get into. But the dream was pervaded with an INTENSE feeling of uneasiness, and the entry I jotted down actually was clearly visible with what I am pretty sure is word for word what I had written down months earlier. WEIRD!
So yeah, inconclusive.
any hope of it getting back in stock??
vs dreams which can get pretty freaky 