# MILFs & Cougars... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 19, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145 "2008-03-19T02:54:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cozmo\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a8b319/32.png) [@Cozmo\_G](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cozmo_G)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/1 "2008-03-19T02:54:09Z")
I’ll assume that most of us are familiar with the terms used in the title of the thread, so I’ll just cut to the chase. I currently own both TUTH and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). Which ones, from experince only, have any of you gentlemen had luck with in attracting the aforementioned deomgraphic of women? What were your mixes? Detailed results? I await the wisdom of the responses from my phellow phero phriends… ---
**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 3:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/2 "2008-03-19T03:11:52Z")
good question, just surf this forum nd im sure lots will pounce. not to give any names. there are a few tame ones here though 😛 😉 (u know who u r 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![Curiouschic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Curiouschic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Curiouschic)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/3 "2008-03-19T04:14:51Z")
> [@bondkill007](#): > > good question, > > just surf this forum nd im sure lots will pounce. not to give any names. there are a few tame ones here though 😛 😉 (u know who u r 😉 ) LOL 😃 lil correction now though…the new term on here is that we have Jaguars, not cougars 😉 Cozmo, you will find the Jaguars much finer!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![malleus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malleus/32/1722_2.png) [@malleus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malleus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 11:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/4 "2008-03-19T11:08:04Z")
I have gotten major hits with older women when applying a couple squirts of Turn Up The Heat (I make a lot of -none naturally, so I would be in ‘OD’ territory with younger girls). I was taking a spinning class at my gym and a good-looking lady in her early-mid forties, and whom I didn’t know that well, asked me to come over and sit on the bike next to her. The whole class she was chatting me up and kept touching me–this is all while participating in a group spinning class. Using less -none, she seemed far less interested. However, a couple squirts of Turn Up The Heat have turned younger girls off–even ones I was fairly confident about hooking up with. If I apply -none nowadays, I am consciously pursuing older women at the expense of any hope of hooking up with younger girls. I’m not as familiar with the results of ammo on older chicks, as I’m not crazy about the strong cologne smell. I suspect it would be a similar reaction. -none is -none after all. My next experiment, when I get around to it, will be going into a bar where lots of older women will be (say, 40s-ish crowd) while slathered in -none. We’ll see what kind of hits I get then. Not really sure where to find consistently good-looking women in their 40s though. Edit: I was also usually wearing several squirts of Shine (as I almost always do) with the -none when noticing major hits. ---
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 12:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/5 "2008-03-19T12:55:33Z")
Hi Cozmo\_G, I’ve also had attracting effects to some 40 yo ladies while using heavy doses of TUTH. I can only confirm what Malleus aready wrote. I also had better results while mixing TUTH and Instant Shine and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). you can read my tests on TUTH and reaction from “Jaguars” here: [My Tests - #24 by runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-tests/5979/24) and here [My Tests - #28 by runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-tests/5979/28) . On this link [My Tests - #29 by runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-tests/5979/29) you can see the results when I exceeded the dosage. Ok, for now it’s all. See ya Franz ---
**Author:** ![phernoob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phernoob/32/180_2.png) [@phernoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phernoob)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 1:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/6 "2008-03-19T13:08:54Z")
I think you guys will find all the good-looking Jaguars over at the women’s forum. Feel free to ask for advice! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Cozmo\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a8b319/32.png) [@Cozmo\_G](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cozmo_G)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 1:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/7 "2008-03-19T13:19:51Z")
Thanks for the links to your informative posts, runnerxvr…And I will definitely see what the women’s forum has to say about the MILF/Jaguar (lol) phenom. In the meantime, my friends, keep this thread alive with any specific results that you’ve had with the more mature women while using [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). I suspect that they may be more suceptible to -none, hence my purchases with this in mind. I haven’t tested my Ammo yet, as it just arrived yesterday. My ‘hits’ with TUTH have all been women in thier 30’s at least, although I’m sure I may have missed some IOI from the younger set. They tend to not be as forward or self assured as the older women. Again, thanks everyone! ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/8 "2008-03-19T17:00:33Z")
If you are looking to attract women 30+ I would recommend the Turn Up The Heat. It will be hard to OD under 2-3 sprays but as Malleus pointed out you will scare away the young’uns. The Jaguars on the other hand know what they want, they know what that strong 'none signal means, and they are not afraid to let YOU know if they are interested. Edit: Instant Shine, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or Instant Honesty all go well with Turn Up The Heat. You could also try A314 but that sometimes has the effect of pushing away women who are not very self-confident. In this case though - if they are confident enough to approach or send signals showing they are open to approaches by younger guys - then I would think the A314 and its alpha vibe would only help. ---
**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/9 "2008-03-19T23:32:12Z")
Ammunition works well on Stellas/MILFs/Cougars. I have a field report or two about Ammunition and older women. In one of them I even got some head in the parking lot outside the club. Haven’t dabbled with Turn Up The Heat yet, but I heard its good. PS: The time I got the head I used 4 sprays of Ammo. I know alot of people believe that its serious OD territory, but it worked for me. I think it has alot to do with how congruent your behavior is with your phero signature. ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/10 "2008-03-20T01:29:05Z")
> [@Godhand](#): > > Ammunition works well on Stellas/MILFs/Cougars. I have a field report or two about Ammunition and older women. In one of them I even got some head in the parking lot outside the club. Haven’t dabbled with Turn Up The Heat yet, but I heard its good. PS: The time I got the head I used 4 sprays of Ammo. I know alot of people believe that its serious OD territory, but it worked for me. I think it has alot to do with how congruent your behavior is with your phero signature. I believe that just because you’re in ‘OD territory’ doesn’t mean that you just just assume that nothing good will happen. What you do now is built comfort using NATURAL GAME. Try socializing and don’t give up just because they’re stand-offish. Put yourself in their shoes. You’re just intimidated, but once they leave, you’ll kick yourself for killing your chances to hit it with her/him. ---
**Author:** ![Cozmo\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a8b319/32.png) [@Cozmo\_G](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cozmo_G)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/11 "2008-03-20T02:54:39Z")
Thanks for the information, gentlemen…I have had some definite ‘hits’ from TUTH…I am refining my target environment, and will be hopefully posting some results from Ammo soon. Godhand, you have had great results from Ammo, huh? I won’'t worry about OD, as I would never put both of the -none scents on at once. I do agree that the older women tend to know what they want…I’ll keep this thread open to report my results in the field. Anyone else who can contribute, please feel free. ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 6:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/12 "2008-03-20T06:40:22Z")
Having currently read approximately 1000 (one thousand) books on nutrition and mastering the subject a lot more than anyway may even comprehend, i managed to seduce a herbalist in a health food store while wearing turn up the heat. I heard her say to her coworker, “omg, if this guy was older i would have sex with him on the spot”, i spun around and looked her in the eyes, she flushed red, i blinked at her. BOOOOM! My moment of pride! She was speechless at my knowledge with those eyes “Holy shit, this guy is perhaps the world authority on orbitally rearranged mono atomic elements!” She was perhaps 30 years old. Seduced by a cougar? Nay! Seducing the cougar! Yay! ---
**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 10:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/13 "2008-03-20T10:04:35Z")
> [@thomaslavoie](#): > > Seduced by a cougar? Nay! Seducing the cougar! Yay! My thoughts exactly. No younger man is actually “seduced” by a cougar. The younger guy simply decides he wants some pussy and plays along with her fantasy of seducing a younger man. Its really not that hard pulling a stella. You just have to know where they pick up one-nighters at. Almost every city has a spot where you can go and there are just hordes of cougars on the prowl. Running solid game, its very easy. With pheromones as well, its like shooting dolphins in a barrel.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/14 "2008-03-20T18:32:52Z")
Women in their 30’s are already horny as hell by default and upping your none output only amplifies this. > [@Godhand](#): > > My thoughts exactly. No younger man is actually “seduced” by a cougar. The younger guy simply decides he wants some pussy and plays along with her fantasy of seducing a younger man. Its really not that hard pulling a stella. You just have to know where they pick up one-nighters at. Almost every city has a spot where you can go and there are just hordes of cougars on the prowl. Running solid game, its very easy. With pheromones as well, its like shooting dolphins in a barrel.🆒 I wouldn’t say it’s true in every case, but probably for most instances. Think you’d need a mighty big barrel to fit the Dolphin in 😮. ---
**Author:** ![abqbelly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/abqbelly/32/2448_2.png) [@abqbelly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/abqbelly)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/15 "2009-04-08T23:25:29Z")
this is truly hilarious. it’s nice to know that all you nice young boys can appreciate an older woman… I’m 30 (but I get told all the time i look 19 and I get hit on by guys at the college i got to every freakin day), but I HARDLY thought i was alread in ‘cougar’ territory… that’s kinda sad ☹ I still think of myself as a teenager!! now my husband at 43, thats kinda old. lol ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/16 "2009-04-09T00:11:23Z")
> [@abqbelly](#): > > now my husband at 43, thats kinda old. lol Hey now, watch it girlie!!🙄 ---
**Author:** ![abqbelly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/abqbelly/32/2448_2.png) [@abqbelly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/abqbelly)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 12:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/17 "2009-04-09T00:24:12Z")
only because hes my husband tho!! ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/18 "2009-04-09T02:13:06Z")
> [@Godhand](#): > > My thoughts exactly. No younger man is actually “seduced” by a cougar. The younger guy simply decides he wants some pussy and plays along with her fantasy of seducing a younger man. Its really not that hard pulling a stella. You just have to know where they pick up one-nighters at. Almost every city has a spot where you can go and there are just hordes of cougars on the prowl. Running solid game, its very easy. With pheromones as well, its like shooting dolphins in a barrel.🆒 Solid game. Amen. It is up to you to make the approach. Do not accept the first rejection or it will be all over. Soon enough she will allow you to believe that you are seduceing her. In fact she is drawing you farther in all the time. Don’t let off the pressure. Press for the close. She wants you to. Never question whether you are man enough. Don’t worry. The beauty of older women is if you listen, they will tell you what they want and need. Before there were cougars, long before there were pheromones, these are the women who were the legendary lovers in my life. When I was in my 30’s, I had several lovers who were in their 50’s. In those times it was scandalous. We turned heads and caused whispers wherever we went. Truth is all that kept us together was sex. We were good. We were very good. Perhaps my women really were dolphins. They were all beautiful, brilliant, and accomplished. I had the great good fortune to be both in love and in lust with an extraordinary woman who was 18 years my senior. The feelings were mutual. We were married for 18 years. Aim high. Press for the close. They’re worth it. ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/19 "2009-04-09T03:28:02Z")
I’m just laughing at the concept of a 30 yr old being an “older woman”… ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/20 "2009-04-09T23:13:20Z")
> [@xev](#): > > I’m just laughing at the concept of a 30 yr old being an “older woman”… I do think they’re aiming pretty low with only a ten year spread. But it is really all relative to where you start from. So your idea of a younger man is 30? 40? 50? OooohYahhhh [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145.md?page=2)