# MILFs & Cougars... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 19, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145 "2008-03-19T02:54:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/21 "2009-04-10T00:20:13Z")
> [@xev](#): > > I’m just laughing at the concept of a 30 yr old being an “older woman”… Heck, _that’s_ what I’d call a “hot _young_ babe”.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 1:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/22 "2009-04-10T01:58:32Z")
> [@OoohYahhh](#): > > So your idea of a younger man is 30? 40? 50? touché xev ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/23 "2009-04-10T02:19:43Z")
She could be a teenage MILF. 🙄 So, that’s really a relative term. Though, of course, it usually denotes an “older” (also being a relative term depending on your point of reference) woman. Ya know high school/college/early twenties guy…and say mid-thirties woman. Cougars, I’d say…early forties up…to… let’s not forget GRANNY sex…ew…that should cool your jets…some good 'ol GRANNY sex. 😃 Bella ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/24 "2009-04-10T02:27:37Z")
> [@](#): > > She could be a teenage MILF. Here in Hawaii we have one of the highest teenage birth rates in the nation, especially among Pacific islanders and Filipinos. I think only Mississippi and Washington DC whip our stats. Not uncommon to meet women in late teens to mid 20s with 2-5 kids and horny as hell. Really scary as they seem to have a string of crazy ex-BFs (with large knives & handguns), a different one for each kid. I think of a cougar as an educated and successful professional woman in her 40s /50s whom craves younger men. A 30 year old clerk in a health store ain’t no cougar no how. I used to be sorta a male cougar–dated mostly women in their 20s–but have started appreciating the well kept older woman more as of late. Far less emotional baggage and more fun to travel with. ---
**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/25 "2009-04-10T03:41:25Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > She could be a teenage MILF. 🙄 So, that’s really a relative term. Though, of course, it usually denotes an “older” (also being a relative term depending on your point of reference) woman. Ya know high school/college/early twenties guy…and say mid-thirties woman. Cougars, I’d say…early forties up…to… let’s not forget GRANNY sex…ew…that should cool your jets…some good 'ol GRANNY sex. 😃 > > Bella sooooooo, uh hey babe wats up 🆒 u… u happen to wanna, uh, come down to miami for a few days… might um, kick somethin up? ya know 😉 🆒 bond ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/26 "2009-04-10T04:00:45Z")
> [@bond007](#): > > _ **sooooooo, uh hey babe wats up 🆒 u… u happen to wanna, uh, come down to miami for a few days…** _ 😃 Uh huh…I _luv_ Miami. See, _that was easy_. > [@](#): > > _ **might um, kick somethin up? ya know 😉 🆒 bond** _ The perfect execution of cougar pick up. 😉 Kick somethin up? Yeah, sure. 🙂 - Sprays MX250 \*…'scuze me…looks like I got me some bond butt to kick. 😛 🆒 Bella ---
**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/27 "2009-04-10T04:53:52Z")
> [@](#): > > The perfect execution of cougar pick up. Kick somethin up? Yeah, sure. o im practiced 😃 😉 bond ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/28 "2009-04-10T04:57:02Z")
> [@bond007](#): > > o im practiced 😃 😉 So am I. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/29 "2009-04-10T05:01:36Z")
ait then this could work out well, just follow the TUTH smell right to my chest here on southbeach (literally)… 😃 bond ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/30 "2009-04-10T05:09:26Z")
…\* sniff _…_ sniff _…_ sniff \* 🙂 … o, catch you guys in a few…\*days _😃 …_ sniff \*… \* sniff \* 🆒 … Bella ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/31 "2009-04-10T05:11:17Z")
> [@Cozmo\_G](#): > > I currently own both TUTH and Ammo. Which ones, from experince only, have any of you gentlemen had luck with in attracting the aforementioned deomgraphic of women? Hey Cozmo, From what you have, I’d pick TUTH everytime, 2 regular strength sprays is a good starting point .. Ammo is not as potent, agree it (may) be useful at higher dose, but then not as good … my experience anyway. If that is where you going on the longer term, then stock up on the collection of -none heavy products here and there … Raw, PI, NPA are highlights, others are not bad as well … Jaguars, Cougars, whatever the term is, are absolutely wonderful … From 35+ and over, definitely 40+, are the women of my choice to spend time with and lust with … excellent cardio exercise, the neighbours hating the sight of me coming home with such brilliant company, especially when they have to work tomorrow … See how you go ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 5:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/32 "2009-04-10T05:12:46Z")
What?! We’re just gonna play a little Mah Jong. 😛 Bella ---
**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 5:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/33 "2009-04-10T05:16:01Z")
common bella, lets go… im saving u this blanket next to me… its a hot spot, ur not the only one going for it 😉 (ur competition is a seagull) bond ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/34 "2009-04-10T05:34:17Z")
> [@bond007](#): > > _ **common bella, lets go… im saving u this blanket next to me… its a hot spot, ur not the only one going for it 😉** _ > > * * * > > _**(ur competition is a seagull)**_ LOL…at least I can compete with that. 🙄 😛 Bella ---
**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/35 "2009-04-10T05:49:41Z")
awww but its a really cute one… lets see… ah yes, theres a little name tag… says tisha… thats odd 😉 bond ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 5:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/36 "2009-04-10T05:55:39Z")
> [@bond007](#): > > _ **awww but its a really cute one… lets see… ah yes, theres a little name tag… says tisha… thats odd 😉** _ 😮 … 🙄 … does it have long blonde hair? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/37 "2009-04-10T05:59:21Z")
come to think of it, yea it does have a blondish tint to it… hard to tell though… all i can hear is muscly V8 noises as it passes… quite an odd bird 😃 bond ---
**Author:** ![big\_guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f07891/32.png) [@big\_guns](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/big_guns)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/38 "2009-04-10T15:26:52Z")
This has been a very entertaining post. It most interests me due to the fact I would consider my wife a cougar. She’s in her late 30’s; she looks as if she is in her mid 20’s. When we go out; men of all ages stare at her because she is very pretty. All my friends think I’m the luckiest MF alive to have married someone like her. We’ve been married for almost 20 years. I first got into pheromones to help save our marriage. I’m in my late 30’s also and I “think” I’m still attractive (LOL). I’m physically active, have the build of a bodybuilder and keep myself well kept. Even before the pheromones I usually didn’t have a problem attracting other women, but I had/have a problem with my wife. My wife seems to never be horny except one day a month; 8 days after her friend visits. I stumbled across this site and started reading. My first purchase about 18 months ago was TUTH and shine, I think. What I found to work with my wife and other women is a couple shots of TUTH and a couple shots of Shine. Without the Shine my wife will finally give in to her desire, but she’ll bitch all the way though. Ammo works every now and again, but I need to use 3 sprays or more. I’ve used a combination of everything in my arsenal with mixed results. TUTH, Shine, IFM, P83 and P79 seem to me to be the one that works wonders. I’m going to a party here in a few hours and I’ll be wearing a combo with TUTH in it, there will be a bunch of cougars there and I’ll post what happens next week. Wish me luck. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/39 "2009-04-10T18:13:40Z")
> [@](#): > > My wife seems to never be horny except one day a month; 8 days after her friend visits. Sheesh, talk about precise timing. You gotta put that in your iCal app or you’ll miss it! ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145/40 "2009-04-10T22:02:50Z")
My definition of cougars/jags is women older than the men they “seduce”. (Seduce a man? Ya right.) I have met MILFS 18 to early 50’s. My experience seems to be that women seem to respond very sexually to a minimum of about 2.5 mcg more of androstenone per 5 years of age, starting with 2.5 at about 18, and can range to double (or even triple) that amount per age group. 18-23: 2.5 - 7.5 mcg 24-29: 5.0 - 10 mcg 30-35: 7.5 - 15 mcg 36+: 10.0 - 20 mcg You get some downright crazy hits at 10 mcg and up from all age groups, but if the female is too young, it will tend to frighten her away. 10 to 12.5 seems to be a pretty good all around sweet spot for sexual insanity from women. But ya gotta balance it out. I do NOT suggest anyone wear that as pure androstenone or TUTH… [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/milfs-cougars/10145.md?page=1)