# Mix for Caucasion red head????

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 19, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079 "2009-01-19T18:44:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/41 "2009-01-21T22:33:30Z")

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> [@MaChMa](#):
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> I have been using IS and a drop of TOTH lately, and I got a redhead that cant stay away from me. I wish you could have her haha

I’m thinking that pheromones aren’t going to really affect people so specifically that it gets down to hair color all that much, although I’m sure it will have some effect… but I think for the most part, redheaded ladies will respond as caucasians.

If you’re 17, then she is too young for me, man. lol

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**Author:** ![pherosmurph](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherosmurph/32/322_2.png) [@pherosmurph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherosmurph)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/42 "2009-01-21T22:46:06Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> Too many freckles? No such thing. Bring 'em on. I’ll count 'em all, every one, with a kiss. 😃
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> Accent, as in, not the main phero component in a mix. Something to modify the effects of something else.

I was thinking this for saturday night when i see her. we will be out in the pub and more than likely very very drunk.. i got some nice hits last saturday until i used 1.5 spray of tuth then i think i OD getting a ghost effect. but before that i used 3 sprays of ammo and got the hits along with other instant products..

Was wondering can you suggest a mix using [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) as an accent with any of the Instant products(i have them all) or with A314…

I was thinking along the lines of

1 drop of A314  
2 sprays of Openness  
3 sprays of shine  
1 spray P93 50mcg/spray

What you think any other suggestions to use with P93?? cheers

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/43 "2009-01-21T23:01:33Z")

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> [@pherosmurph](#):
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> I was thinking this for saturday night when i see her. we will be out in the pub and more than likely very very drunk.. i got some nice hits last saturday until i used 1.5 spray of tuth then i think i OD getting a ghost effect. but before that i used 3 sprays of ammo and got the hits along with other instant products..
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> Was wondering can you suggest a mix using P93 as an accent with any of the Instant products(i have them all) or with A314…
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> I was thinking along the lines of
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> 1 drop of A314  
> 2 sprays of Openness  
> 3 sprays of shine  
> 1 spray P93 50mcg/spray
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> What you think any other suggestions to use with P93?? cheers

I don’t think you were getting a gjost effect with 1.5 sprays of TUTH… altough you might have had people unsure how to respond for the situation you were in, or maybe a bit nervous.

As for P-93, I don’t know a lot about it, but my advisor on the matter suggests using no more than 3/5ths the amount of P-93 as you use for the primary masculine [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) as an accent.

In this case, you’d be using a lot less than 50 mcg. Then again… I have very little experience with P-93, so this is a case of the blind leading the blind. I think I would do 2 drops of A314 and 5 or 10 mcg of P-93.

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**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/44 "2009-01-23T03:59:35Z")

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I can certainly see where women of different hair color might respond differently to a given pheromone. Of course, women vary greatly anyway but there could be some corrolation.

After all, hair color and women’s natural aromas are corrolated! Blonds smell differently from brunettes from redheads - assuming natural hair color of course.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/45 "2009-01-23T04:57:57Z")

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> [@Whitehall](#):
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> I can certainly see where women of different hair color might respond differently to a given pheromone. Of course, women vary greatly anyway but there could be some corrolation.
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> After all, hair color and women’s natural aromas are corrolated! Blonds smell differently from brunettes from redheads - assuming natural hair color of course.

That is true. Man, a redhead attractant would be awesome. 😃

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**Author:** ![pherosmurph](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherosmurph/32/322_2.png) [@pherosmurph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherosmurph)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/46 "2009-01-23T15:21:22Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> That is true. Man, a redhead attractant would be awesome. 😃

I know i have little experience.. But in ireland there are lots of redheads including men so i have lots to experiment on.. If i have one goal with pheros this is it… If there is an attractant im gonna figure this one out.. i dont care how long it takes.. This is my purpose i see it now…

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/47 "2009-01-23T18:18:46Z")

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I have always sort of had this plan in my head to travel to Ireland, find a redheaded wife and settle down there with her one day. Nice little dream. Not sure it’ll ever come to pass… but there is not much I can think of sexier than a natural redhead with a genuine Irish brogue or Scotch accent. I came close once with an auburn haired beauty from Newfoundland… Australian and New Zealand accents would be nice too… and of course there are lots of very attractive American and Canadian redheads… and British, and…

Okay. I’m done fantasizing. lol

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**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/48 "2009-01-23T21:13:00Z")

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For a great song about a motorcycle and a red-headed girl, try "1952 Vincent Black Lightning " by Del McCoury:

> **[Mccoury, Del, Del McCoury - Del and the Boys - Amazon.com Music](https://www.amazon.com/Del-Boys-Mccoury/dp/B00005LZSE)**
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> Mccoury, Del, Del McCoury - Del and the Boys - Amazon.com Music

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**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/49 "2009-01-24T16:47:46Z")

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So let’s noddle this problem a bit.

Our goal is a spray that will have special appeal to a red-headed woman. It could appeal to other shades too but we want red heads to really be attracted for pickup and opening. This is a different goal from a bed room mix especially for red heads - that’s later.

Does anyone have any science that would guide them? Google has some interesting leads. The differential requirements for painkillers makes me think of the movie “Trainspotting.” In fact, being able to correlate genetics with pheromone response would be a breakthrough.

Until then, we’ll have to use an empirical approach. That is, try stuff in the field and note any perceived differential response. We’ll have to rely on hit reports. Unfortunately, the San Francisco Bay Area doesn’t seem to have a high proportion of _natural_ red heads - Dublin or Edinburgh would be better test markets I’d think since the Scots and the Irish have the greatest proportions of red heads on the planet.

So the question for the team is, does ANYTHING seem to work better on red heads? I myself haven’t a clue.

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**Author:** ![snakeeyesontheparadise](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snakeeyesontheparadise/32/791_2.png) [@snakeeyesontheparadise](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snakeeyesontheparadise)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/50 "2009-01-25T00:49:56Z")

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I’ve had red-headed caucasian success and beyond just using Mx203 alone.

I’ll say that if it’s red heads you are after, Mx203 is the potion for you. Nothing else I’ve tried comes close.

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**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/51 "2009-01-25T02:22:31Z")

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I’ve read here where MX203 has special effects on blondes. Red heads too is believable.

I think I misspoke above - don’t we have some correlation of pheromone response with blood type?

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**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/52 "2009-01-25T03:37:09Z")

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Blood type O is supposed to od on -none easier because they already produce plenty of it themselves.

I am not aware of any other blood type correlations.

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**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/53 "2009-01-25T18:56:01Z")

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Just put in my order for [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/), just so I don’t miss it this time. MX292 arrives tomorrow then the MX203 later in the week.

Now, later this week I’ll clean my self up and try to find someplace with lots of inebriated blonde and red-headed targets. Blondes are fairly easy to find here in the Bay Area (more so in LA) but red heads could be a challenge. Maybe an Irish bar in SF?

Now which one to try first? I’ll take TUTH alone in case there it REALLY works.

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/54 "2009-01-25T20:00:10Z")

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> [@Whitehall](#):
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> …So the question for the team is, does ANYTHING seem to work better on red heads? I myself haven’t a clue.

Some other things to consider:

What is the favorite drink for a readhead?  
What is a redhead’s favorite food?  
What is the best car for redheads?  
What is the best job for readheads?

Any one of us has relatively few experiences and it is tempting to try to classify responder types by their most obvious features, like hair color. However, with small samples, patterns are likely to be due to chance.

There are many other possible ways to classify responders. This is explored a bit in my old thread

> [@What works best on older blond Asian women, with a limp?????](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-best-on-older-blond-asian-women-with-a-limp/7468):
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> Often we report effectiveness of a compound or a mix, and tend to sort our data and perceptions along racial or physical lines. For instance, “it had a strong effect on blonds” or “Hispanics responded strongly to this mix.” There are multiple ways to sort our experiences, and sometimes I think that we may be conceptualizing the observable responses to pheromone exposure in a less than optimal manner. I have a strong suspicion that personality factors have as strong or greater influence than th…

If you’re really interested in a particular redhead, perhaps you should consider the characteristics of her personality?

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**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/55 "2009-01-26T00:39:29Z")

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Reasonable skepticism there, GWTW. Certainly little chance of getting good statistics but we’re not to prove or disprove a hypothesis. But what we’re trying to do is, by keen observation, discern trends or clues to guide further research and empirical experimentation.

Of course, the big payoff for most of us is the fantasy of a beautiful red head in a DIHL. followed by a solid talking hit.

We can dream, can’t we?

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**Author:** ![TheCentaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@TheCentaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheCentaur)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/56 "2009-04-13T20:17:15Z")

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deer in the headlights? doe eyes, you mean. I’m married to one, and I am one of the luckiest guys alive. you think they’re hot on the prowl, wait till you’re married to em 5 years down the road. way hot. all the time. like.. losing sleep just watching her sleep kinda hot. and one can never have enough freckles. ever.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/57 "2009-04-13T21:20:36Z")

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I recently attempted to use my calculator to determine a special mix for specifically affecting redheaded women. The model I have been using was based on 10,000 random guys and how natural genuine redheaded women would respond sexually to them. The results were very difficult to differentiate because of the averaging effect. I stopped running the calculations after a half an hour because I just could not make out an appreciable difference for what the dose of each pheromone should be.

So I am going to see if I can find some other way to approach this problem. I am sure there has to be some way to set this up so I can fine tune a mix to appeal specifically to naturally redheaded women. Just for those of you who might have it cross your mind, I’m aiming at the type of redhead who is “fire red from toe to head”. About as pure a representation of the redhead gene as you can find. But this is going to take some time for me to figure out how to approach effectively.

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/58 "2009-04-13T23:17:53Z")

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> [@TheCentaur](#):
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> deer in the headlights? doe eyes, you mean. I’m married to one, and I am one of the luckiest guys alive. you think they’re hot on the prowl, wait till you’re married to em 5 years down the road. way hot. all the time. like.. losing sleep just watching her sleep kinda hot. and one can never have enough freckles. ever.

Well, hold on Mr. Jraffe! 😮

You’re married to one … you need to be reporting any and everything in reference to the head of red! Give it up, buddy! Give it up!

Any mix or mone in particular that brings out the nawtiness in your wifee?

Come on, Signor Centaur! Who’s your buddies? Who’s your pals? 😉

Scientist CatLordy … from this day forward, yee shall not sleep until yee has zee answer! Shame on yee shall yee close thy eyes!

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/59 "2009-04-14T00:20:00Z")

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No sleep until I have the answer? I should sooner die than answer the question then? This is going to take more than a few days contemplating how to approach it! lol

My previous results seem to confirm my suspicion that there may be an effect from having the redhead gene, but it won’t be a super big one on its own. Thankfully, this means that any mix designed specifically for redheads should also work very well on all Caucasian women, at the least.

The problem is perhaps insurmountable, if I do not take into account a specific age group to focus on also. Any suggestions? What is the average age of all the female redheads out there? lol

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**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-for-caucasion-red-head/25079/60 "2009-04-14T00:41:48Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> What is the average age of all the female redheads out there? lol

42 years, 3 months, 18 days, 6 hours, 12 minutes, 14.5 seconds.🙄

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