# Mix of A314 in 5ml **URL:** \ **Category:** A314 Insider's Club\ **Created:** [September 11, 2010, 7:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-of-a314-in-5ml/41608 "2010-09-11T07:22:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![papa4165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@papa4165](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/papa4165)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 7:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-of-a314-in-5ml/41608/1 "2010-09-11T07:22:00Z")
Guys got a Question Actually a few of them. Anyone ever tried mixing some of the instants together in a 5ml togo spray? like AMMO+IS+IO so you dont need 3 diffrent togo sprays. If so any results? The next thing is did anyone try to use A314 with a instant like AMMO,IS,or IO? I know i read a thread that the oil bases are harder to replicate into a spray if they are developed first in the oil form. It is also harder to get proper doses with reliable effects. Im asking since the Instant line is dissolved in alcohol, and time extended (fixed) with DPG. Im not sure if it is alcohol or a perfume type like Cyclomethicone since its flashpoint is higher and can be air shipped. I know regular oils will not dissolve in alcohol but A314 uses a synthetic type. So could it be possible to use the instant lines to dissolve A314? Could we make a 5ml spray mix of A314 + AMMO + IO +IS for a quick refresh in a pinch. Not just that mix i suggested but any mix so you could change it for a business meeting of to the club. Just brainstorming since 5ml to go sprays are really easy to carry. I just dont want to carry five of them and try putting them on in the club or before a meeting. Or am i just nuts! regards papa ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-of-a314-in-5ml/41608/2 "2010-09-12T14:45:31Z")
MX347 is A314 in spray form. I’ve actually been thinking of getting some to go sized bottles specifically for what you describe but also to spread the coverage of certain mones over a wider area. Say for example you wanted to do a very strong masculinity in a bottle mix. I’d use LS’s chem set A1 to make a 15mcg per dose spray. and then spray one of each of the following into a togo bottle. MX347 for Rone [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) spiked with cops TuTH IO And the A1 That’s a mix of 5 products but you don’t have to carry 5 bottle, plus instead of having IJ on your neck and TuTH on your wrists or whatever they’re mixed and will be spread out evenly over all your application area’s. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-of-a314-in-5ml/41608/3 "2010-09-12T18:56:07Z")
You can also use A314 as a base. 40 drops are around 40 sprays. I have done that using cologne. It works very well. A314 makes a perfect base to work from. I am sure I have reported a couple mixes on the forum in the past. I have used TAA with it primarily. I mixed in a 2.5 ml sprayer for a 1-2 time use. I liked the results from it. Tacitus also mentions using A314 as a base for many of his mixes as well. That takes a lot of reading to find, but he mentions it several times. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-of-a314-in-5ml/41608/4 "2010-09-12T21:19:19Z")
> [@andrew88777](#): > > You can also use A314 as a base. 40 drops are around 40 sprays. I have done that using cologne. It works very well. A314 makes a perfect base to work from. I am sure I have reported a couple mixes on the forum in the past. I have used TAA with it primarily. I mixed in a 2.5 ml sprayer for a 1-2 time use. I liked the results from it. Tacitus also mentions using A314 as a base for many of his mixes as well. That takes a lot of reading to find, but he mentions it several times. This sounds interesting, but I’m not so sure its 40 drops to 40 sprays precisely? At least you aren’t getting all A314 at its full strength/dosage. Remember you are putting one product which is oil into a diluent. It would actually dilute a bit. When mixing you always need to take into account what dosage you are actually getting. We (AD) generally know the precise dosage as long as its the right bottle/atomizer/diluent/etc. because we measure it out from the very beginning. But when you add something into more liquid, its going to dilute. Something else I’m very curious about is does it ever separate? ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-of-a314-in-5ml/41608/5 "2010-09-12T23:37:55Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > This sounds interesting, but I’m not so sure its 40 drops to 40 sprays precisely? At least you aren’t getting all A314 at its full strength/dosage. Remember you are putting one product which is oil into a diluent. It would actually dilute a bit. When mixing you always need to take into account what dosage you are actually getting. > > We (AD) generally know the precise dosage as long as its the right bottle/atomizer/diluent/etc. because we measure it out from the very beginning. But when you add something into more liquid, its going to dilute. > > Something else I’m very curious about is does it ever separate? > [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > This sounds interesting, but I’m not so sure its 40 drops to 40 sprays precisely? At least you aren’t getting all A314 at its full strength/dosage. Remember you are putting one product which is oil into a diluent. It would actually dilute a bit. When mixing you always need to take into account what dosage you are actually getting. > > We (AD) generally know the precise dosage as long as its the right bottle/atomizer/diluent/etc. because we measure it out from the very beginning. But when you add something into more liquid, its going to dilute. > > Something else I’m very curious about is does it ever separate? The easy part, I have not noticed it seperating when I used cologne. I used Issey Miyake L’eau D’Issey Pour Homme. Someone else may have mentioned it here on the forum. Nbully mentions it on his blog. Even Jasmin mentioned recently that MHarris thought about putting A314 in some mixes to balance them or something. AD uses DPG to time fix so I do not see an issue with seperation. I am sure the strength is off. It it were that easy MX347 would have always been available. Its more of a quick and dirty method. I believe DPG based mixes here are around 7x in mcg strength compared to an alcohol based spray. I have never tried to do the math, but it is not hard to figure it out if you really wanted to. ---
**Author:** ![iamstretchypanda](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/iamstretchypanda/32/1228_2.png) [@iamstretchypanda](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iamstretchypanda)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mix-of-a314-in-5ml/41608/6 "2010-09-16T23:38:16Z")
I have not tried to mix in A314 into any oiled based products, but I would think your best bet would be to try and acquire oil based versions of the other products and mix them together. The other thing to keep in mind is the oil in a314 will cause the other mones to disperse slower. So a 10mg dose of say instant shine in an oil base MAY act more like 2 5mg dosages applied over a series of hours. Some mones have had a better effect in an oil base (even at the same dosages) for me… including steve’s ICM A mix. Mixing tip. Say you mix together 1 spray of IS and 1 spray of openness into a togo. When you spray that togo 1 time you are effectively spraying on a half of IS and a half of Openness. This isn’t a big deal but when you start mixing 4+ chemicals you will have to spray 4+ times to get “1” dosage. If you wanted to apply 3 doses now you are talking about 12+ sprays. One of the members here made a mixing calculator that simplifies the calculations. I haven’t used it in a long time but it could probably be found by searching “Mixing calculator” on the forums. If i were going to add A314 and other chemicals to my cologne I’d probably opt for higher mcg bottles to help counter the dilution effect.