# Mixed Instant Shine into my Ammo ToGo: why not to mix consumer products

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 6, 2008, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-instant-shine-into-my-ammo-togo-why-not-to-mix-consumer-products/9726 "2008-03-06T06:28:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![incubusattacks](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/incubusattacks/32/1259_2.png) [@incubusattacks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/incubusattacks)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-instant-shine-into-my-ammo-togo-why-not-to-mix-consumer-products/9726/1 "2008-03-06T06:28:06Z")

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So I just mixed some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) in my ToGo of Ammo this morning. Bad idea, should have sticked to 1 spray ammo and 3 spray Instant Shine, which usually gets me a lot of IOI’s. Well the effects were weird.. no IOI’s but a lot of guys were all up in my face like they were trying to challenge me or something. The last time I mixed IS into Ammo I put a crapload of IS and I was getting assloads of great IOI’s but with this 50/50 mix I was gettin any good results ahh… pheros are complicated.

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 7:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-instant-shine-into-my-ammo-togo-why-not-to-mix-consumer-products/9726/2 "2008-03-06T07:04:30Z")

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Mixing takes a while to figure out and get right.

But when they talk about mixing they are usually not talking about mixing two pre-dosed consumer products like Ammo and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). Those are already made to deliver an optimal dose of pheromone per spray. If you mix those types of products you dilute them and get strange results. Usually better to layer them individually.

Usually mixes are done with the P series and things like straight alpha and beta nols and 'none and such. You get those in strengths designed to be mixed or diluted with something else. Like Gegogi gets a strong 'none solution then dilutes it at a 5"1 to 7"1 ratio with colgone in a sephora atomizer and sprays as needed.

But keep experimenting … don’t give up.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 10:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-instant-shine-into-my-ammo-togo-why-not-to-mix-consumer-products/9726/3 "2008-03-06T10:09:33Z")

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Thats because your not supposed to mix the consumer products. They are balanced already and made for layering. If you want to mix you do it with putatives and experimones.

If you wanted to put [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) in your ammo it would have been a better choice to use TAA.

Maybe we can salvage it…

You normally wear 3 sprays of Instant Shine to 1 spray of ammo correct. so you need to fill a bottle 3/4 up with Ishine and add 1/3 ammo.

First off Did you use a seperate bottle, always do it in a seperate bottle. Do you know how much you used already when mixing. You are most likely short on the amount of Ishine you need.

Tisha