# Mixed ISb results at a bar from a male perspective: is it wise to wear near my ex? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 28, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330 "2016-08-28T17:50:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![lalythil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/858c86/32.png) [@lalythil](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lalythil)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 12:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/21 "2016-08-30T12:46:04Z")
hmmm guess i missed the second half of your posts.. since he’s had that bad relationship before you, perhaps my approach wouldn’t be the best… perhaps tone down the sexual mix with a few good buffers so that there is a good comfort lvl in there as well. but I’d say, don’t get something that puts you in the friendzone, since that is not where you want to end up. trust, openness and an undertone of sexy is what my recommendation would be… after reading all that. ---
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 1:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/22 "2016-08-30T13:21:48Z")
> [@lalythil](#): > > Also, I’m not sure, but if you want to make sure your target (exbf) that he thinks romantically about you, how about using something that is somewhat(or a lot) more sexual and then denying him the pleasure. I think that (at least this is very true for me) quite a few guys do like to be tantalised. As in, knowing what we could get, but not get it immediately. I think that’s why teasing is such a great thing. dangle the carrot, but keep it slightly out of reach, at least for a little while, until you are willing to go all the way. Since the OP is hoping to regain her ex-boyfriend’s trust, to the point of picking up where they left off, I think it’s a bad idea to engage in any kind of teasing. If I were the ex, my reaction would be: “Of course! I knew it. She’s messing with me again”, and all hopes of rekindling things would be gone. So your intended effects should be: sexiness, openness, and comfort." Which would mean IS/b, IO, and P96 (currently sold out). Perhaps with some IS/a added to the mix, since the ex doesn’t seem to be responding to IS/b too well. This should give him a hint of the confident woman vibe he’s drawn too, while retaining the relaxed feeling in the OP’s presence. Now, I’m not familiar with women’s products, so perhaps women can chime in on my behalf. Is it a good idea to mix IS/a and IS/b? ---
**Author:** ![lalythil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/858c86/32.png) [@lalythil](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lalythil)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/23 "2016-08-30T13:46:17Z")
Yes, I realised that after reading the rest of it, so then I posted a rectification on it 🙂 I’ve also got half a mind of recommending TAC, but only from what I’ve read here, I’ve just ordered it myself, but as TAC seems to be a relaxant, it may help to open him up a bit more and be more receptive to the IO. or would TAC clash with the others? ---
**Author:** ![Sjdonahue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sjdonahue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sjdonahue)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/24 "2016-08-30T13:54:54Z")
I’m limited to ISb and IO because they are all I have at the moment, trying out others will have to wait until my budget allows it lol. I think my situation is pretty complicated. He definitely does like to chase. But I don’t want to play games with him. So I was hoping ISb would trigger his “chasing” instinct while IO would help him drop his walls enough for us to have more relaxed conversations. I really am in the delicate situation where I could be permanently friend-zoned. It’s been 6 weeks since we broke up so he’s probably teetering between missing me and moving on. While I don’t want to rush things, seem desperate or play any sort of games, I really am limited by time and making the right/wrong moves. Bit of a dilemma lol ---
**Author:** ![Sjdonahue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sjdonahue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sjdonahue)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/25 "2016-08-30T13:57:04Z")
> [@TheAttractor](#): > > Now, I’m not familiar with women’s products, so perhaps women can chime in on my behalf. Is it a good idea to mix IS/a and IS/b? I haven’t been able to get a single reply on the women’s forum 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/26 "2016-08-30T16:21:13Z")
Ever considered dumping him totally and look around for the better guy? ISb and IO can help you with that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sjdonahue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sjdonahue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sjdonahue)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/27 "2016-08-30T16:29:36Z")
> [@Dee\_A](#): > > Ever considered dumping him totally and look around for the better guy? > > ISb and IO can help you with that. 🙂 I’d be stupid not to consider it lol. But we were great together and he definitely outshines every bf I’ve ever had. I feel in my gut that if I don’t at least try then I may have regrets later. I want zero regrets before I move on, I never want to doubt my decision. ---
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/28 "2016-08-30T16:54:29Z")
> [@Sjdonahue](#): > > I feel in my gut that if I don’t at least try then I may have regrets later. I want zero regrets before I move on, I never want to doubt my decision. Spoken like someone with integrity. Your conscience will thank you later. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/29 "2016-08-30T17:19:39Z")
> [@Sjdonahue](#): > > I’d be stupid not to consider it lol. But we were great together and he definitely outshines every bf I’ve ever had. I feel in my gut that if I don’t at least try then I may have regrets later. I want zero regrets before I move on, I never want to doubt my decision. With that, I would still recommend sans mones, or testing out IO with some friends, get a feel for it and just use IO. The IS/b, from your posts on it’s affects on you and those around you may require additional testing to be comfortable with it and know where the Influence of IS/b starts and ends because you want to KNOW that you will have ZERO regrets once all is said and done. IS/b is an Unknown variable that may put him in a mood that could be good or not for you both. You will never doubt your decision or think… maybe if I used IS/a??? OR IS/b?!? He knows and will WANT You… not some mone signal. Because he has many positive aspects to him, and you both click and talk easily, the best tool in your aphrodisiac arsenal is the mind! You unlock it best with Conversation, deep and intimate, keeping it real. ---
**Author:** ![Sjdonahue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sjdonahue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sjdonahue)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/30 "2016-08-30T18:21:31Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > With that, I would still recommend sans mones, or testing out IO with some friends, get a feel for it and just use IO. > > The IS/b, from your posts on it’s affects on you and those around you may require additional testing to be comfortable with it and know where the Influence of IS/b starts and ends because you want to KNOW that you will have ZERO regrets once all is said and done. IS/b is an Unknown variable that may put him in a mood that could be good or not for you both. You will never doubt your decision or think… maybe if I used IS/a??? OR IS/b?!? He knows and will WANT You… not some mone signal. > > Because he has many positive aspects to him, and you both click and talk easily, the best tool in your aphrodisiac arsenal is the mind! You unlock it best with Conversation, deep and intimate, keeping it real. Thank you very much ---
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/31 "2016-08-30T19:13:31Z")
> [@Sjdonahue](#): > > I think my situation is pretty complicated. He definitely does like to chase. But I don’t want to play games with him. So I was hoping ISb would trigger his “chasing” instinct while IO would help him drop his walls enough for us to have more relaxed conversations. Something else I’d like to add. Did your relationship intensify (read: get serious) too hard too fast? Namely, you almost instantly went from being a new, playful couple to intense talks about commitment, future, and exclusivity. Perhaps that scared him off somehow, I don’t know. I remember reacting like that to a nascent relationship in the past. Because I was looking bring fun companionship into my life, while my past girlfriend was looking to start a family. So to bring back the fun element you had in the early stages, I strongly recommend IShine, MX297, or both. Also maybe Puppy Love (don’t now if it’s sold anymore). And don’t forget to actually _do_ fun activities together. Otherwise, the congruence of these pheromones will be lost. ---
**Author:** ![Sjdonahue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sjdonahue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sjdonahue)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/32 "2016-08-30T20:21:48Z")
> [@TheAttractor](#): > > Something else I’d like to add. Did your relationship intensify (read: get serious) too hard too fast? Namely, you almost instantly went from being a new, playful couple to intense talks about commitment, future, and exclusivity. Perhaps that scared him off somehow I’ve been sure for a while that that’s what happened. Following his last relationship, he had been dating around for 4 years before we met, but said that I was different so he wanted to take a chance on being serious with me. Looking back, since I was originally the one who wasn’t sure about dating him, maybe he only thought I was the one because I was a challenge for him. The honeymoon period was the shortest I’ve ever experienced. He talked a lot about marriage and travelling, etc, and as soon as I was hooked he got distant and started ignoring me. Of course like a typical woman I panicked then then got clingy and paranoid, which pushed him away altogether. > [@TheAttractor](#): > > So to bring back the fun element you had in the early stages, I strongly recommend IShine, MX297, or both. Also maybe Puppy Love (don’t now if it’s sold anymore). I’m limited to IO and ISb right now, that’s all I have and won’t be able to order anything else for a while. ---
**Author:** ![brasileira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@brasileira](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/brasileira)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 12:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/33 "2016-08-31T12:33:28Z")
I’ve never used IS-a and B together, but I read a few times that they kind of cancel each other. They send 2 different signals and the “message” gets too confusing. I think just the I.Sexiness (a or B) is not enough for what you want to achieve. They are great products for certain situations but a bit incomplete for what you want. I would try something like Sexiness + Copulins + P96. the I.Sexiness for the self-effects and for getting his attention, the coullins to get him very aroused for you and the P96 to reach for his emotions. This is a very strong bonding tool and it will make the experience of being physically and emotionally together with you very special. Almost like it used to be on the beginning of your relationship. ---
**Author:** ![Sjdonahue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sjdonahue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sjdonahue)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/34 "2016-08-31T14:20:58Z")
> [@brasileira](#): > > I’ve never used IS-a and B together, but I read a few times that they kind of cancel each other. They send 2 different signals and the “message” gets too confusing. > > I think just the I.Sexiness (a or B) is not enough for what you want to achieve. They are great products for certain situations but a bit incomplete for what you want. > > I would try something like Sexiness + Copulins + P96. > the I.Sexiness for the self-effects and for getting his attention, the coullins to get him very aroused for you and the P96 to reach for his emotions. This is a very strong bonding tool and it will make the experience of being physically and emotionally together with you very special. Almost like it used to be on the beginning of your relationship. I only have access to ISb and IO at this time ---
**Author:** ![Sjdonahue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sjdonahue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sjdonahue)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/35 "2016-09-02T21:20:46Z")
I have an update to my original post, if anyone is interested in the new info. I’ll paste the section from my first post that pertains to this new detail. > [@Sjdonahue](#): > > Throughout the night, one person pretty much clung to me, some who don’t normally talk to me struck up conversation, I got a lot of hugs, and even some of the females who I thought didn’t like me were being nice to me. > But some of the guys who’ve flirted with me in the past seemed to bounce back and forth throughout the night. They’d come over for a minute or two, happy to see me, then look distracted and leave. That went on the whole night. One of them had been telling me throughout the night the he was glad I came, happy to see me, etc, but when I sent him a message later on he read it and ignored it (It wasn’t a weird message, so that’s not why he ignored it). The one who “had been telling me throughout the night that he was glad I came, happy to see me, etc” and then running off and acting super distracted…sent me a message today and laid it on thick! He usually uses flattery when he talks but this was over the top even for him. He said I literally (like actually) took his breath away when he saw me and that he came super close to planting a kiss right on my mouth…but he thought I was there with the clingy guy! Lol And in regards to a later post… > [@Sjdonahue](#): > > I tried ISb on an old friend today who is normally flirty, but was just friendly today. I seem to be making guys less attracted to me with this stuff Turns out my friend is currently courting someone so he was being a good boy 🙂 So I guess maybe the ISb didn’t turn anyone away after all? ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/36 "2016-09-02T21:23:42Z")
Good Going, SJ! Breathtaking is a good tool to have in your conquest of men’s hearts! 🙂 Keeping it real! 1Alpha . ---
**Author:** ![Sjdonahue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sjdonahue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sjdonahue)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330/37 "2016-09-02T21:29:00Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > Good Going, SJ! Breathtaking is a good tool to have in your conquest of men’s hearts! 🙂 > > Keeping it real! > > 1Alpha > > . Lol thanks. Hopefully I have enough tools of my own for the conquest of the right man’s heart [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-isb-results-at-a-bar-from-a-male-perspective-is-it-wise-to-wear-near-my-ex/66330.md?page=1)