# Mixed results at 20 with Ammo and IS: advice on dose and sweet spot testing **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 9, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923 "2010-07-09T16:23:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/1 "2010-07-09T16:23:00Z")
Hey guys and dolls, If you don’t like Androtic essays, stop reading now 😛 I bought AMMO and received a free sample of IS (smells great, many thanks!). I’ve tried various different doses including mixing and non-mixing and have had disappointing results. Regardless, I’d say I have had some hits but I wouldn’t say they were good hits. Here’s pretty much a summary of whats been happening: 1. At ze pub: Wore 2x [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) on the neck and one spray of IS spread on both forearms and a lady friend complimented me that I smelt nice (which she would probably never do). But that’s it, just the comment, no change in character or mannerisms. A couple of guys there that night felt the smell was offensive/too much (is this common with Ammo?). Don’t think IS had any effect on myself or others. No one was extra happy and/or talkative. 2. Bowling (lots of girls in our group): This was my own little experiment. Entered wearing 2x IS. One on each forearm. Said hello to the girls and examined their reactions including an IOI from one girl. 15 mins later put 2x Ammo on the neck and went back to talk to them to see if anything had changed. Nothing, the IOI continued her IOI’s but her mannerisms and composure stayed the same before and after AMMO. No hits for IS as far as I could tell. 3. Dinner out with the fam: No I didn’t put on AMMO you dirty bastards. Wore 2x sprays of IS on the forearms. I’d say I probably did notice that myself and others were a bit perkier than normal, but it was a birthday meal so I don’t know. 4. Club (lots of girls): 2x AMMO on the neck and 2x IS on the forearms. Had a few IOI’s but they were from slags who probably indicate their interests to everyone and anyone. About an hour and half into the night, went to bathroom did the same dosages again. I got a couple of numbers but for one of them, I could tell she really wasn’t interested and I only met her because she was the sister of a friend and the other one was God forsakenly drunk. The hit that I noticed was some dirty old woman (whose always there) suddenly decided to dance with me. 5. Friends house after club (two girls): This was interesting. After the club some friends and I went back to this girls house (known her for years, we’ll call her Rachel) just to hang out and stay they night. Rachel has a boyfriend and I’ve never received any IOIs off her since we’ve known each other but that night she was sitting really close to me and she put her feet up on my chair. This is interesting because although we were all drunk, she’s never done that kind of thing before, even when she was drunk. So in conclusion, I’m not too happy at the moment considering the money I’ve spent and the amount of research I’ve done prior to receiving my order. Also, does anyone else not like the smell of Ammo? I find it to alchollish. But I love the smell of IS! I’m going out for dinner tonight and then probably pub afterwords with some friends. Any recommendations? Also going to a BBQ tomorrow which should have some nice girls there who I have never met so that will be a useful testing ground. Here’s my intro thread if you’re interested: [Hi from the UK! Can pheromones change my life?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-the-uk-can-pheromones-change-my-life/39675) Although I’m currently disappointed, I still have hope and look forward to reading your replies and reporting back to you! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/2 "2010-07-09T16:45:59Z")
Well a couple of things make sense based on your usage. You’re 20 and I’m guessing you’re going after similarly aged females. You have a total of 5mcg of Androstenone in your system. Although its well buffered, why don’t you try AMMO just 1 spray. The fact that an older lady came up to you shows the effects of extra Androstenone on your body. Remember that hits are considered any deviation from normal reactions from people. [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) are not made to illicit overt physical responses as a reaction from the pheromones, they will illicit feelings in your brain. How the person that is exposed to the pheromone reacts depends on their personality and their sensitivity to pheromones. You might have to fine tune your senses to the hits you’ll receive from the pheromones because they can be subtle, it’s really up to you to escalate. Pheromones will really only open the door for you, you have to do the rest of the work. I know the frustration that you have because I ran into the same problem. I figured out later that I just had to be more fine tuned to do it ---
**Author:** ![Katalyst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/katalyst/32/1415_2.png) [@Katalyst](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Katalyst)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/3 "2010-07-09T16:51:53Z")
Well id like to first start off by saying it will be hard to respond to every one of your situations and how you perceived the interactions but i am noticing that you are 20 years old and started off with 2 sprays of ammo. It is recommended, especially at your age to start with 1 spray max and test from there. Too much can cause OD and you will have people distancing themselves from you, or not have any reactions. here is a link to find the ‘sweet spot’ [How to find your sweet spot… - PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/1) as far as instant shine goes, some users get self effects, others do not from this product nor any other ones. I myself do get self effects from it and love wearing it and find that its nearly as good as coffee at times. You were getting hits which leads me to believe that you have seen some effects and interest things, however you also need to take into account the ages of the girls your interacting with. If you have ammo on and high -none content you can be causing them to not act on urges because youre coming across as too pervy with too high a -none signature and its scaring them away like how she may have just given you her number because then you would stop pursuing her. It makes sense that older women are more attracted to higher levels of -none and that may very well be why when you re applied some ammo you put even more -none on and therefore that older dirty lady was all up on you and dancing with you, so that is a hit if you want to count it, just not one that you wanted. You may find that 1 shot of ammo is better for you and your body chemistry and then the scent also wont be as strong, and maybe your correct dosage of shine is 3 sprays and you havent hit that mark yet in your testing. Ammo does have a strong scent to it and you either love it or hate it it seems, or it will grow on you. if its too much on the neck, well try it on your sternum under your shirt, it will diffuse slower and the smell wont be so overbearing. Lots to consider here but this is a starting point of things you should consider, and remember the mones arent going to do all the work its how you steer them once you have the correct dosages. ---
**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/4 "2010-07-09T17:22:08Z")
Thanks guys, I fully understand that mones aren’t going to suddenly turn me into an utterly desirable creature. If it came out that way in my first post, then I can only apologise for not wording it properly. I’d also like to state that I’m pretty sensitive to IOI’s thanks a lot of books and forums. For my first go with ammo, I tried one spray (as suggested in the sweet spot thread) but experienced no hits. Then again, the post office isn’t exactly babe central! I’ll try just one spray tonight, maybe on my chest instead of my neck. I’ll try 3x IS as well. Thanks peeps. ---
**Author:** ![Katalyst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/katalyst/32/1415_2.png) [@Katalyst](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Katalyst)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/5 "2010-07-09T17:38:16Z")
Yeah follow the sweet spot thread as it will tell you that you should stick to one spray for like a week even if that means 5-7 days spread out over a 3 week period of you going out and interacting and logging reactions ( then increase and repeat logging and experimenting). Try them by themselves too dont layer until you see what each one produces so you can see the effects that each are giving. ITs hard when you first get them and i am guilty of it too of seeing good results on the forum with different mixes and you just start spraying away and mixing the mones. ive seen many threads reporting ammo + IS to be a killer combo with tons of hits so i hope that you find your ideal dosage and things look up for you. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/6 "2010-07-09T18:18:56Z")
LOL, a job already completed by Kat and P51. Great advice form both. I would like to throw in though that most guys, just like you reported, are looking for hits rather than creating them. You need to stop looking for hits or you will miss the hits that are already happening. ---
**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/7 "2010-07-09T18:40:16Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I would like to throw in though that most guys, just like you reported, are looking for hits rather than creating them. You need to stop looking for hits or you will miss the hits that are already happening. Are you saying I shouldn’t analyse the situation when it’s happening, but to actually analyse it the next day. Are you also saying that I should just stop worrying, chill out and be myself? :o ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/8 "2010-07-09T18:46:44Z")
> [@England](#): > > Are you saying I shouldn’t analyse the situation when it’s happening, but to actually analyse it the next day. Are you also saying that I should just stop worrying, chill out and be myself? :o I’m saying that while you are focused on looking for hits, most likely the most blatent hits, you are missing out on all those subtle little cues. We guys tend to have Male Pattern Blindness which means a girl would literally have to mount us before we released she was interested. We do it all the time. To best answer your question, when you go out with some friends, without mones, and see some girls you are interested in, do you “analyze” the situation? Do I really need to tell you to be yourself and chill? - You already know the answers as you posted tongue in cheek. Don’t be to hard on yourself though. We all do it.😉 ---
**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/9 "2010-07-09T19:02:29Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > To best answer your question, when you go out with some friends, without mones, and see some girls you are interested in, do you “analyze” the situation. Yes I do! I shall stop this. ---
**Author:** ![Katalyst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/katalyst/32/1415_2.png) [@Katalyst](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Katalyst)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/10 "2010-07-09T19:05:27Z")
Quiet that inner talk! 😠 lol yeah i suffer from that too, over thinking how they react, questioning the way they talk to you, losing confidence as another guy your competing with, looking for interest, which lead me to luckily still score a lot of ladies but it was always waiting for them to throw themselves at me and the ones that were very aggressive, meaning that i probably missed out on a ton of opportunities and i know this also because they would tell me later that they were very attracted to me but felt i wasnt into them and so on and so forth. as you do all that im sure that your attention is taken away from your confidence and being yourself and the way you are interacting with her, therefore i will tell you that i suffered from these shortfalls as well and it can be devastating thats for sure. But, hey the mones helped me in many ways with that and the slight confidence boost they provide and even the mentality where hey im the man and i know it and im gonna own it. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/11 "2010-07-09T23:58:21Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Male Pattern Blindness I’ve never heard it worded that way but it’s perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Unique](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unique/32/935_2.png) [@Unique](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Unique)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/12 "2010-07-10T04:20:18Z")
I’ll be completely honest… Ammo doesn’t do much for me as a 20yr old, I only tried the to go version I prefer A314 with some shine or IH/IO for going out and A314 by itself for work My friend whos about the same age I gave some A314 to and he got the same excellent results Its pricey but good for everything just in my opinion… and lasts ages lol As for what you have currently, try 1 spray of ammo and 4-5 sprays of shine More [sexual pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/sensual-pheromones/) don’t = better IMO us young folks already have too much ---
**Author:** ![Redstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bbce88/32.png) [@Redstone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Redstone)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/13 "2010-07-10T04:43:36Z")
England, I’ve found over the years certain mixes work great and other are complete blanks. Maybe its how certain pheromones interact with our body chemistry. Like Unique, ammo has never produced a pronounced hit with me. However other products have snuck up and surprised me. IS has always been a nice product but nothing over the top. But today it alone made a Taiwanese woman I have recently met melt into my arms. This was not expected. I am not saying the pheromone made her give it up, but the “hits” I was getting during sex was obvious. She kept on sniffing, I mean really sniffing my chest, right where I had just minutes before had applied IS. She was loving it. Point being give them some time. Don’t push it. They are not magical love potions, but certain pheromones will work on you and change others behavior around you. Maybe eventually you find the right amount of ammo to apply and it works for you, or it could be you’re like several of us that cannot get a reaction with the product. ---
**Author:** ![Mongo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mongo/32/2034_2.png) [@Mongo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mongo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 10:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/14 "2010-07-10T10:32:29Z")
Think of mones as the cherry on the cake. If you have no cake well it’s just a cherry innit. ---
**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 1:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/15 "2010-07-10T13:44:54Z")
> [@Unique](#): > > I’ll be completely honest… Ammo doesn’t do much for me as a 20yr old, I only tried the to go version > > I prefer A314 with some shine or IH/IO for going out and A314 by itself for work > > My friend who’s about the same age I gave some A314 to and he got the same excellent results > > Its pricey but good for everything just in my opinion… and lasts ages lol > > As for what you have currently, try 1 spray of ammo and 4-5 sprays of shine > > More sexual pheromones don’t = better IMO us young folks already have too much Thanks. For my next order I’ll get some A314 and IH, especially as IH was reccomended to me in my intro post. > [@Redstone](#): > > England, I’ve found over the years certain mixes work great and other are complete blanks. Maybe its how certain pheromones interact with our body chemistry. Like Unique, ammo has never produced a pronounced hit with me. However other products have snuck up and surprised me. IS has always been a nice product but nothing over the top. But today it alone made a Taiwanese woman I have recently met melt into my arms. This was not expected. I am not saying the pheromone made her give it up, but the “hits” I was getting during sex was obvious. She kept on sniffing, I mean really sniffing my chest, right where I had just minutes before had applied IS. She was loving it. > Point being give them some time. Don’t push it. They are not magical love potions, but certain pheromones will work on you and change others behavior around you. Maybe eventually you find the right amount of ammo to apply and it works for you, or it could be you’re like several of us that cannot get a reaction with the product. Thanks. But I’d like to reiterate again that I do not and have never believed that mones are wondermagic. Ok here’s what happened in the past few days. Restaurant: Eating out with friends. No mones on. Near the end of the meal, went to the bathroom and sprayed 1x Ammo on my chest (instead of 2x on my neck which I normally do) and noticed no hits. But I’m not surprised because they are all friends I’ve known for years so I wouldn’t think it would make much of difference. When we left there was a possible hit from one of my mate’s girlfriends (who I haven’t seen for ages) as her body was pointing in my direction when we were standing in a circle and talking in a group. Afterwards, we just did some general hanging out and I noticed no hits from the girls. Well, there were hits but they both were from girls that have been sending the same signals to me way before mones. Gym: This was an interesting one. Sprayed 1x Ammo on neck. I wouldn’t normally do that for gym as I’d probably sweat it all off but as I’ve joined a new gym I have to do a couple of inductions (health and safety etc). I had a woman for the induction who was probably in her 40s and she was either a very strange person, or Ammo affected her. Instead of vigorously making sure she covers all the points for safety and the machines, I basically told her that I’ve used the machines before and that I just wanted to get the induction over and done with (in the nicest way possible). Anyway, for the 5 minute induction, instead of the usual 30-45mins, she kept on looking into my eyes and she was smiling a lot. I never met her so I have no idea whether that’s normal for her or not. Another interesting thing is when she passed me onto some guy to show me the weights room. He was acting very cold and abrasive towards me. Once again, I’ve never met him. He could constantly be a moody bastard, he could have had a hangover, or was just having a bad day. I’m finding it hard to tell what the mones are doing and what they aren’t with people who you’ve never met. Going to a BBQ tonight and I won’t know the majority of the people there so it’s once again going to be interesting to see what happens. I’ll try 1x Ammo and 4x IS (if I have that much left!) as suggested. Where should I spray the IS? On my arms? ---
**Author:** ![Mongo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mongo/32/2034_2.png) [@Mongo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mongo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 4:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/16 "2010-07-10T16:02:08Z")
Ah the days of being a skeptic _sigh_ I think the final nail in the coffin of scepticism for me was getting a non visual hit, were I moved past someone facing away from me and they turned around to look. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/17 "2010-07-10T16:23:43Z")
> [@England](#): > > I’m finding it hard to tell what the mones are doing and what they aren’t with people who you’ve never met. And ultimately you really can’t tell, anymore than you’d be able to tell if a new shirt or haircut caught the attention of a woman or if she would have noticed you anyway. With strangers, the “would this have happened anyway?” question is always a factor. This is why I encourage people to establish a baseline of how strangers “on average” respond to them. Very few people actually pay attention to how often strangers initiate conversations, or make flirtatious comments…at least not to the degree that they can tell you how often it happens over a week or so. So when they try mones and see some results they tend to remain skeptical because “women have flirted with me before” or “It’s not the first time a stranger just started up a random conversation with me” Of course it’s not, these products only give off an aura or vibe that creates a certain impression on people. If you pay attention and make note (mental or literal) of how people you know react to you, you’ll notice slight changes over time if you’re product or mix is fairly consistent. If you make note of how random strangers in general react to you and how often certain types of behaviors are thrown at you, you’ll notice an increase in the frequency of certain behaviors depending on the product. You’ll never know with 100% certainty that some woman you just met being extremely flirty is the mones or if she just finds you visually attractive, but if you notice that kind of behavior more often from more women on average…you have a pretty good idea. ---
**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/18 "2010-07-10T16:33:15Z")
I’m not a skeptic. If I was a skeptic I would dismiss all my hits as coincidental, circumstantial or even luck. I’m impartial, hence why in my above posts, I recognise hits and deliberate what could construed as hits and what could not be. I’m sure if I develop any bias towards or against mones, it will be in a few months. ---
**Author:** ![Redstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bbce88/32.png) [@Redstone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Redstone)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/19 "2010-07-10T16:58:51Z")
> [@England](#): > > I’m not a skeptic. If I was a skeptic I would dismiss all my hits as coincidental, circumstantial or even luck. I’m impartial, hence why in my above posts, _ **I recognize hits and deliberate what could construed as hits and what could not be** _. > > I’m sure if I develop any towards or against mones, it will be in a few months. I think that’s OK . I have kept a critical eye for a couple of years now. Honestly I have a hard time crediting the pheromones for a lot of the reactions I get from people. Would they react that way anyway? I also doubt many of the posts I see on the forums. They read as if the author was reaching or wanting to be one of the people that is getting positive hits so they see something that may or may not have been pheromone induced. I dont blame them, its human nature to want to experience something great if those around you are. I often have women react a certain way toward me when I am not wearing pheromones that if I was could think the mones had caused them. Some of it could be male pattern blindness on my part. Then there are times like the post I described above when the pheromone hit so obvious even skeptical me has to say Wow! ---
**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 12:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923/20 "2010-07-16T12:27:44Z")
Well, I’ve performed the sweet spot test with 1 and 2 sprays and am now going to try 3. I know it seems counter intuitive but I saw a post of a another guy with a similar age to me who actually had very clear and positive hits with 4 sprays! Wish me luck! [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results-at-20-with-ammo-and-is-advice-on-dose-and-sweet-spot-testing/39923.md?page=2)