# Mixed results? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 27, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results/66324 "2016-08-27T21:17:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sjdonahue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sjdonahue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sjdonahue)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results/66324/1 "2016-08-27T21:17:17Z")
Hi. I tried ISb before going to a bar concert last night. I’m from a small city and know most of the people who went on some level. I had very bizarre results. I used 2.5 sprays (I sprayed onto a piece of plastic then dabbed it on me with my finger because I have a sensitive nose). Over the next hour I became easily frustrated and was in an unnecessarily bad mood, but by the time I got to the club I was feeling much better. Throughout the night, one person pretty much clung to me, some who don’t normally talk to me struck up conversation, I got a lot of hugs, and even some of the females who I thought didn’t like me were being nice to me. But some of the guys who’ve flirted with me in the past seemed to bounce back and forth throughout the night. They’d come over for a minute or two, happy to see me, then look distracted and leave. That went on the whole night. One of them had been telling me throughout the night the he was glad I came, happy to see me, etc, but when I sent him a message later on he read it and ignored it (It wasn’t a weird message, so that’s not why he ignored it). This morning when I woke up, the scent had worn off but the unmistakable “sweat” smell from the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) was left behind and I instantly got a shower. I’m wondering if I may have used too much, if maybe it smelled bad or if it just didn’t have a good reaction depending on the person. Any input toward any of the things I’ve mentioned would be greatly appreciated! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results/66324/2 "2016-08-27T23:31:07Z")
Its not that unusual to get mixed results when starting with pheros - and indeed even well down the line with them, pheros can still backfire from time to time. Often the main reason is my mood - which isn’t always congruent with the signal sent by my pheros, so any interest piqued by the pheros can be quickly lost because I don’t behave in a way that backs them-up. Another reason is OD - I’m simply wearing too much for the given situation and the responses don’t work so well but this can often change as I move into more uninhibited territory where things become much more effective. So maybe try backing-off on dose a bit to see what happens. Another reason - and this is a possibility if someone already knows you is that your phero signal is at odds with their expectations from you. So give this one time and you should find that they adapt to your new sig pretty well. 🙂 Lastly, guys exposed to cops can be more unpredictable - there are several thoughts on why this might be. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results/66324/3 "2016-08-28T00:05:00Z")
Another thing to remember is that unconventional application methods can also drastically affect diffusion. Sometimes they are in order if you have a particular sensitivity to dose or a particular scent but it is almost always at a price in effectiveness. If scent strength is an issue, can you try an app point further from your nose - like back of the neck or forearms/wrists or maybe apply it a little earlier to let the scent settle/fade a little on your skin? ---
**Author:** ![Sjdonahue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sjdonahue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sjdonahue)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2016, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results/66324/4 "2016-08-28T00:21:29Z")
“this is a possibility if someone already knows you is that your phero signal is at odds with their expectations from you.” - Makes sense. The guy that clung to me was a friend from way back when I was a little promiscuous and he may have thought he could pick me up. The ones who bounced back and forth knew I wouldn’t be going home with them even though they definitely know I like them. The ones who were being nicer than usual don’t know me well yet and didn’t seem confused at all. “guys exposed to cops can be more unpredictable - there are several thoughts on why this might be.” - what are your thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Sjdonahue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sjdonahue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sjdonahue)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2016, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results/66324/5 "2016-08-28T00:23:38Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > If scent strength is an issue, can you try an app point further from your nose - like back of the neck or forearms/wrists or maybe apply it a little earlier to let the scent settle/fade a little on your skin? - it’s not so much the scent strength, I’m wondering if, when the perfume scent wears off and I’m left with phero-smell, could that be offending the noses of others? ---
**Author:** ![Jribbs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jribbs/32/709_2.png) [@Jribbs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jribbs)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results/66324/6 "2016-10-12T22:44:24Z")
For me, the results are very correlated with my own [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) at the time. You gotta remember for us women especially that changes vastly throughout our cycles. Just my 2cents 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sjdonahue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sjdonahue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sjdonahue)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results/66324/7 "2016-10-12T23:12:26Z")
> [@Jribbs](#): > > For me, the results are very correlated with my own pheromone at the time. You gotta remember for us women especially that changes vastly throughout our cycles. Just my 2cents 🙂 Thanks, I’ve considered that as well. Although recently, right as I was about to start the first day of my cycle, an old friend practically threw himself at me. I literally had to push at him. He wasn’t trying to overpower me or anything, just a tad overenthusiastic 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Jribbs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jribbs/32/709_2.png) [@Jribbs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jribbs)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results/66324/8 "2016-10-12T23:14:24Z")
I’ve seen articles that women are second most attractive right before their period. Like the day of. Second of course to ovulation. I get a lot of attention right before I bleed ---
**Author:** ![Sjdonahue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sjdonahue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sjdonahue)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results/66324/9 "2016-10-12T23:31:34Z")
> [@Jribbs](#): > > I’ve seen articles that women are second most attractive right before their period. Like the day of. Second of course to ovulation. I get a lot of attention right before I bleed Really?? That sounds so counterproductive lol. Not to mention unfair 😛 But I guess that would help explain why I was the centre of attention on that particular night. Which NEVER happens lol ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results/66324/10 "2016-10-14T12:16:51Z")
With IS/B I have not seen any reports of people being frustrated. I have actually tested IS/A and IS/B for the hell of it and with IS/A it was just to much for me and I was very pissy and easily set off I don’t know why, but IS/B was very pleasant and put me in a good mood. I am leaning more towards the application method that Mobocaster suggested and this may have a significant impact on how the mones worked. Also what I have found to is if I apply any mone and go to an extremely hot environment they seem to diffuse way to fast and at times was like ODing. To help with this Lotion works very well to help slow the diffusion if that is the case. ---
**Author:** ![Sjdonahue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sjdonahue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sjdonahue)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 5:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results/66324/11 "2016-10-14T17:12:23Z")
> [@justintime469](#): > > With IS/B I have not seen any reports of people being frustrated. I have actually tested IS/A and IS/B for the hell of it and with IS/A it was just to much for me and I was very pissy and easily set off I don’t know why, but IS/B was very pleasant and put me in a good mood. > > I am leaning more towards the application method that Mobocaster suggested and this may have a significant impact on how the mones worked. Also what I have found to is if I apply any mone and go to an extremely hot environment they seem to diffuse way to fast and at times was like ODing. To help with this Lotion works very well to help slow the diffusion if that is the case. Thanks. Very helpful 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jribbs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jribbs/32/709_2.png) [@Jribbs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jribbs)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixed-results/66324/12 "2016-10-15T17:36:34Z")
Interesting. I want to get some is/ b me t. Today i used instant shine alone in the AM, as per usual everyone was very nice to me. I like Ishine the best so far for my chemistry. I added some puppy love and didn’t see a huge difference. Mostly the self effects