# Mixes and their effects

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 4, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207 "2012-11-04T02:32:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![darkclaw3000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ec9cab/32.png) [@darkclaw3000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/darkclaw3000)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/1 "2012-11-04T02:32:29Z")

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I wanted to this on my own wordpad but figured it’s better if I just do it publicly in case anyone would like to refer..

my idea is to try and list down certain combos and their effects with what I have in my arsenal.

NOTE (again, in case): This post is actually for my own reference, to jot down what I found out and use the combos I’ve got thruout the forum. But I think sharing this would be more profitable to everyone

if you guys can be kind enough to tell me of a combo that consists of what I have and their effect, it would be very very helpful for me to test them a little faster, n report on my journal. thanks so much guys!

**OBJECTIVE** : to go for the social, sexy guy that every girl wants/want to get to know. Aiming for that perfect boyfriend vibe. Not going for sex or one night stands (YET!!). I choose to go for the comfort factor first.

**TARGETS** : mostly asians in my country, age group 22-30. environment mostly cool as I plan to do my combos at night. (i work in bar/pub anyway as a sound engineer. perks of my job i can walk around n talk n get to know chicks too! heh heh..) air-conditioned area, cool night scene basically.

oh i’m 27 btw.

My current arsenal to use and mix (all are togo bottles):

**Instants** :  
A314 1.29a - for alpha status (  
IH, IS, IO (1x str) - for socializing (can add on to anything)  
IG (2x str) - for james bond feel  
Ammo (2x str) - for hot guy feel  
TUTH (ver1.1, str 2.5mcg) - for i want sex now feel -\_-

**others** :  
[MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) (not sure how many mcg per spray, not stated) - social magic  
P75 (5mcg/spray) - 2.5mcg: cool guy/magnetism effect _(thx ballzan!)_  
P102 (5mcg/spray) - spiderman

**Combos available and effects:** (what I’ve found thruout the forum from other users, and also mindful of my own objective)

- those that are with “???” means I found the combo to work but not sure of the effect \*

**P75 solo** = good to attract younger women, good on asians

**A314 + P75** = ???

**Ammo + P75** = Tony Stark effect, cool and sexy guy _(thx ballzan!)_

**2x Ammo + 3x IS + 3x IH** = chick magnet (ages 22-29)

**P75 + 2x [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/)** = playful and appealing effect. best combo to attract asian females

**P75 + IG + IH** = social/high status mix with some sexyness

**2x MX297 + 2x Ammo + 2x IH** = ??? definite fallout with asians?

**3x MX297 + 1x Ammo + IS** = “The Man”

**MX297 + TUTH** = sexual social guy?

**1x AMMO, 2x IO, 2x IH, 2x IS** = boyfriend effect (needs approaching. _thx 1Alpha!_)

NOTE: I do realize there will be a lot of combos that can be done with these pheros I have, but I’m listing down that seem to really work, and fits my objectives and targets. I think this will lower down the list significantly.  
Will update on the combos that work or doesn’t work for me, as well as the dosage used.

\*editing notes: added boyfriend effect mix. wondering if using this mixes, im actually suppose to approach a woman n initiate, rather then wait for them to come to me.. or look for signals, then approach.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/2 "2012-11-06T19:09:03Z")

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With your boyfriend mix, with the IO and IH, you will likely still need to approach, just that the mone cloud will help in reelin’ the gals in to your conversations and Keep them looking to talk to you.

1Alpha

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**Author:** ![darkclaw3000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ec9cab/32.png) [@darkclaw3000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/darkclaw3000)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/3 "2012-11-06T21:16:26Z")

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thx 1alpha!! what do u think i should add so that i won’t have to approach so much, or don’t need to do much of the approaching work. e.g like smiling n acknowledging them is enough for them to come n talk to me.  
kinda like CTTM? but that’s out..

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**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/4 "2012-11-06T21:31:20Z")

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> [@darkclaw3000](#):
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> thx 1alpha!! what do u think i should add so that i won’t have to approach so much, or don’t need to do much of the approaching work. e.g like smiling n acknowledging them is enough for them to come n talk to me.  
> kinda like CTTM? but that’s out..

Noticed you had P75 as ??. For me at 2.5mcg it seems to be a cool guy/magnetism effect. You can read in my journal where I solo it at a party if you don’t know what I mean.

As far as what I have read from other posts with a P75 and ammo mix is like a Tony Stark effect, cool and sexy guy that girls want to be around and talk to which it seemed to have when I did a similar combo. My experience with SE [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), [P75@2.5mcg](mailto:P75@2.5mcg), and mx297 I believe was the mix, I had girls in the mall pushing their boyfriends out of the way to get a look, also in my journal for more detail.

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**Author:** ![darkclaw3000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ec9cab/32.png) [@darkclaw3000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/darkclaw3000)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/5 "2012-11-06T21:54:27Z")

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> [@ballzan](#):
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> Noticed you had P75 as ??. For me at 2.5mcg it seems to be a cool guy/magnetism effect. You can read in my journal where I solo it at a party if you don’t know what I mean.
> 
> As far as what I have read from other posts with a P75 and ammo mix is like a Tony Stark effect, cool and sexy guy that girls want to be around and talk to which it seemed to have when I did a similar combo. My experience with SE Ammo, [P75@2.5mcg](mailto:P75@2.5mcg), and mx297 I believe was the mix, I had girls in the mall pushing their boyfriends out of the way to get a look, also in my journal for more detail.

noted about the effect of [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/)! yeah i’ve read your journal, very interesting stuff!  
I’ve still yet to really feel the effects of the mones i’m using. in another thread i asked whether the cold environment i’m in doesn’t help in getting the mones out.

i’ll note down that mix and try on soon!

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**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/6 "2012-11-06T21:58:21Z")

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> [@darkclaw3000](#):
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> noted about the effect of P75! yeah i’ve read your journal, very interesting stuff!  
> I’ve still yet to really feel the effects of the mones i’m using. in another thread i asked whether the cold environment i’m in doesn’t help in getting the mones out.
> 
> i’ll note down that mix and try on soon!

It could be slow it down a bit but probably not too much! You have to work the mix you are wearing as well and where you are at makes a difference, I get the reverse of hits at the gym when wearing mones, what I mean is I can tell girls consciously trying not to make eye contact. If you go to clubs, bars, etc and do work the mix then you will start seeing hits.

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**Author:** ![darkclaw3000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ec9cab/32.png) [@darkclaw3000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/darkclaw3000)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/7 "2012-11-06T21:59:44Z")

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oh btw, is there a big difference with SE Ammo and normal Ammo ??

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**Author:** ![tommarty920](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tommarty920/32/1273_2.png) [@tommarty920](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tommarty920)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/8 "2012-11-07T01:39:59Z")

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> [@darkclaw3000](#):
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> thx 1alpha!! what do u think i should add so that i won’t have to approach so much, or don’t need to do much of the approaching work. e.g like smiling n acknowledging them is enough for them to come n talk to me.  
> kinda like CTTM? but that’s out..

Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t CTTM just a 50/50 mix of IO and IH?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/9 "2012-11-07T01:40:29Z")

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> [@darkclaw3000](#):
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> oh btw, is there a big difference with SE Ammo and normal Ammo ??

Yes - [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is more chilled/laid back, social/sexy and its scent is a whole lot better.

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**Author:** ![darkclaw3000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ec9cab/32.png) [@darkclaw3000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/darkclaw3000)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 8:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/10 "2012-11-07T08:08:17Z")

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> [@tommarty920](#):
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> Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t CTTM just a 50/50 mix of IO and IH?

I’m not sure about this… would like to know too

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 8:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/11 "2012-11-07T08:22:31Z")

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50/50 of 2x IO/IH is John’s “official” replacement for CTTM2 but he never released the exact formula.

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**Author:** ![darkclaw3000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ec9cab/32.png) [@darkclaw3000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/darkclaw3000)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/12 "2012-11-07T13:10:20Z")

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I’m guessing [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) would be in the mix. but then again im a newbie so i wouldn’t know haha

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/13 "2012-11-07T14:36:08Z")

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Given CTTM2’s complete lack of edginess, presence and its very highly social nature, I would seriously doubt that [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) has anything to do with this mix.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/14 "2012-11-08T04:57:03Z")

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> [@tommarty920](#):
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> Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t CTTM just a 50/50 mix of IO and IH?

No thats what they suggest you replace it with.

CTTM2 had two [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) in a 50/50 ratio. Anol and Bnol which are the main componants in IH and IO. That is the exact formula. CTTM was more in your face, raw, blatant, unfocused where as IO and IH are more focused on a type of communication.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![tommarty920](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tommarty920/32/1273_2.png) [@tommarty920](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tommarty920)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/15 "2012-11-08T05:05:34Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> No thats what they suggest you replace it with.
> 
> CTTM2 had two pheromones in a 50/50 ratio. Anol and Bnol which are the main componants in IH and IO. That is the exact formula. CTTM was more in your face, raw, blatant, unfocused where as IO and IH are more focused on a type of communication.
> 
> Tisha

Thanks for clarifying Tisha! I actually first posted that is was Anol and Bnol but after reading a post by Steve changed it to IO and IH. Guess I was looking at the replacement thread rather than the thread with the exact formula. I remember reading some where that IO is 70/30 Anol/Bnol and IH is 70/30 Bnol/Anol, is this correct? Don’t remember reading if there was more to that or not but I figure if there is, it’s confidential.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixes-and-their-effects/57207/16 "2012-11-08T05:18:01Z")

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Yup, that’s right for the basic composition of IO and IH, although there is a third, undisclosed steering molecule in IH.
