# Mixing A1 with A314 oil

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 30, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971 "2010-10-30T23:44:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![TheGodfather](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegodfather/32/1812_2.png) [@TheGodfather](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheGodfather)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/1 "2010-10-30T23:44:31Z")

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Is this a bad idea?

I want to do this to possibly prolong the effects of A1.

Right now all I have been doing is putting 1-2 drops of A1 in the lid of a 30ml bottle, then spraying 3-5 sprays of IO into the lid, and then using an empty 30ml bottle to spray the crude mix on.

Obviously this is not very controlled, and I really have not idea what the dose really is.

Would it be a bad idea to add 1-2 drops of A1 with my drop of A314 and rub it around?

Also I am not concerned about the self effects as far as application points go.

The reason I want to do this, is because I tend to start partying early (7ish) and I hate the fact that most of the pheros I put on at that time will have worn off by the time we get to the club and during/after the club 11ish-2am-ish.

Ps. as far as using to-go bottles…how the hell do you guys open them up???

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/2 "2010-10-31T00:03:41Z")

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Why not just bring a to-go bottle with you and apply in the bathroom at the club? That is kind of the point of it, and it works.

I would not mix your A1 and A314, its a waste and may not work the way the way you want.

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**Author:** ![TheGodfather](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegodfather/32/1812_2.png) [@TheGodfather](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheGodfather)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/3 "2010-10-31T00:18:10Z")

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> [@Maidenfan01](#):
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> Why not just bring a to-go bottle with you and apply in the bathroom at the club? That is kind of the point of it, and it works.
> 
> I would not mix your A1 and A314, its a waste and may not work the way the way you want.

I am aware of the to-go bottle idea, however I do not want to mix a full batch. Also, how do you open these togo bottles without breaking them?

The a314 + A1 would be a single application mix, so I would not be contaminating a whole bottle of either.  
I would basically put a drop of a314 on my wrist then 2 drops of A1 on my wrist then mix/rub them together and apply to neck etc.

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/4 "2010-10-31T00:36:49Z")

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Literally mixing anything in a bottle is a substandard (and practically wrong) way to mix. Everything should be sprayed or placed directly on the skin.

Also, not sure why you’d want to put A1 in your A314?

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**Author:** ![TheGodfather](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegodfather/32/1812_2.png) [@TheGodfather](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheGodfather)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/5 "2010-10-31T01:02:15Z")

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> [@John\_Sebastian](#):
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> Literally mixing anything in a bottle is a substandard (and practically wrong) way to mix. Everything should be sprayed or placed directly on the skin.
> 
> Also, not sure why you’d want to put A1 in your A314?

I do not mean to sound impolite, but are you guys even reading my initial post?

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/6 "2010-10-31T01:15:21Z")

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I do that.1 drop of A314 + a couple drop of A1. It works out fine,

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/7 "2010-10-31T01:24:20Z")

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I think one drop is probably a bit much. You could add some to a bottle of cover scent from AD and spray it in more controlled doses. There are several posts indicating the ratio of A1 to cover scent that you could put in one of the 30 ml bottles. I think there’s also a thread discussing the ratio of DPG to scented PA that you could use to “time fix” your product so it lasts longer.

In either case a spray would be dosed. Mix the A1 with a bottle of FF21 or something and let it set for a week or two to become a solution so you know exactly how much you’re getting at any given time. Then apply the A314 OVER your application spots once the alcohol dries.

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**Author:** ![Onedzguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onedzguy/32/1382_2.png) [@Onedzguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Onedzguy)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/8 "2010-10-31T12:36:09Z")

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In Bolkie’s A1 Mix Repository thread, he had asked if anyone tried A314 + A1. But there was no response at the time. So I’ve been working on it in a written journal.

Since its Halloween, I’ll give you folks a treat.

I’m a filipino male between the age of 35 to 45 yrs old. I’m 5’8" at 165 lbs.

The mix: 2.5ml of A314 in a vial with 2 drops of A1. Shake well for 2 minutes and rest overnight.

10/26/2010

4 drops from the vial. 1 drop behind each ear. 1 drop on each wrist.

Effects on self:  
Mellow but I’m in a rush to catch the bus.

Effects on others:  
It took 20 minutes to walk to the Waipahu transit center. I boarded the #40 bus into town. At the back of the bus there are 2 benches that are facing the isle. An attractive latina woman was sitting on the driver’s side of the bus. So I took the other side facing her.

She is a little chubby but still caught my eye. Looks like in the mid 20s with a wedding band on her ring finger. She was wearing a black V-neck shirt, black slacks and black work shoes. She has long hair but has it tied in the back in a pony tail. She had her handbag sitting on her lap. She rested her wrists on the handbag while reading her book.

As I sat across from her she took a quick glance at me and returned to reading her book. Within 3 minutes she starts fidgeting in her seat. She starts crossing and uncrossing her legs several times. Then she slowly slouches in her seat, raises her book closer to her face and spreads her legs wide. Every time a passenger passed between us she would straighten up in her seat. But a few minutes later she would go back to the same position.

Once and a while this latina lady would touch or caress her left cheek. She then straightened up in her seat. With her right hand she would rub the back of her neck and play with her pony tail.

At one point she slouched forward over her bag and hold her book with both hands slightly extended forward.. I could see her cleavage from her black V-neck shirt. She stayed at this position until a passenger passed between us.

When the bus got closer to the airport she puts her book away and looks at her cell phone. She leans back into her seat and then slowly starts making circular motions with her right hand on the empty seat next to her. She took a another quick glance at me and got off the bus at the airport.

And I thought this kind of stuff only happens to you folks.

ODG

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/9 "2010-10-31T13:50:12Z")

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> [@Onedzguy](#):
>
> In Bolkie’s A1 Mix Repository thread, he had asked if anyone tried A314 + A1. But there was no response at the time. So I’ve been working on it in a written journal.
> 
> Since its Halloween, I’ll give you folks a treat.
> 
> I’m a filipino male between the age of 35 to 45 yrs old. I’m 5’8" at 165 lbs.
> 
> The mix: 2.5ml of A314 in a vial with 2 drops of A1. Shake well for 2 minutes and rest overnight.
> 
> 10/26/2010
> 
> 4 drops from the vial. 1 drop behind each ear. 1 drop on each wrist.
> 
> Effects on self:  
> Mellow but I’m in a rush to catch the bus.
> 
> Effects on others:  
> It took 20 minutes to walk to the Waipahu transit center. I boarded the #40 bus into town. At the back of the bus there are 2 benches that are facing the isle. An attractive latina woman was sitting on the driver’s side of the bus. So I took the other side facing her.
> 
> She is a little chubby but still caught my eye. Looks like in the mid 20s with a wedding band on her ring finger. She was wearing a black V-neck shirt, black slacks and black work shoes. She has long hair but has it tied in the back in a pony tail. She had her handbag sitting on her lap. She rested her wrists on the handbag while reading her book.
> 
> As I sat across from her she took a quick glance at me and returned to reading her book. Within 3 minutes she starts fidgeting in her seat. She starts crossing and uncrossing her legs several times. Then she slowly slouches in her seat, raises her book closer to her face and spreads her legs wide. Every time a passenger passed between us she would straighten up in her seat. But a few minutes later she would go back to the same position.
> 
> Once and a while this latina lady would touch or caress her left cheek. She then straightened up in her seat. With her right hand she would rub the back of her neck and play with her pony tail.
> 
> At one point she slouched forward over her bag and hold her book with both hands slightly extended forward.. I could see her cleavage from her black V-neck shirt. She stayed at this position until a passenger passed between us.
> 
> When the bus got closer to the airport she puts her book away and looks at her cell phone. She leans back into her seat and then slowly starts making circular motions with her right hand on the empty seat next to her. She took a another quick glance at me and got off the bus at the airport.
> 
> And I thought this kind of stuff only happens to you folks.
> 
> ODG

Why do people say they are between this and that age number … to keep people from finding out who they are?

Nice report, Onedzguy!

Gonna have to keep an eye on your journal as for the A314:A-1 mix is concerned. You wore no other mone at the time?

Just goes to show you … the experts say not to mix them, and a TEST showed that it worked for you.

\*\*TEST! TEST! \*\*\*\*TEST! \*\*

Tis the ONLY way to find out what REALLY works for YOU, no matter what others may think/say. 😉

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**Author:** ![Onedzguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onedzguy/32/1382_2.png) [@Onedzguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Onedzguy)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/10 "2010-10-31T22:21:53Z")

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M&M - As I get older I don’t want to be reminded of how old I am. I know it sounds crazy but thats how its been for me. No other mones worn during this test. Although the test will be greatly skewed because this is a Halloween weekend. I’ll go dry for a few days then restart the test again.

ODG

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**Author:** ![TheGodfather](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegodfather/32/1812_2.png) [@TheGodfather](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheGodfather)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/11 "2010-11-01T22:03:31Z")

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Thanks for the suggestions.

I think I really need to just get a pipette and correctly mix up a batch of A1+IO.

I did try the A314+IO, but I can not comment on the added or lessened effect if any.

Also to note, I was pretty none heavy that night…and someone threw an empty crushed can directly at my forehead. It came out of no where. The person was obviously a coward.

My reaction- not a single flinch or movement (I guess thats kind of comical), I just turned to my friend and started talking and telling him what happened. I kept my cool… I could not say the same if I had known who threw it.

Just a tid bit… I did look like a big asshole in my costume, so that along with the 2 drops-A314 and 4-ammo probably did provoke some alpha male wanna be. I never wear this much of either product to the bar. Why I did this time I do not know.

I have stated before, that generally every other weekend I receive  
some form of aggression (always from drunk individuals) while out, someone always has to challenge me in some way. This can be from strangers or even “friends”. I have never been in a physical fight though.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/12 "2010-11-02T04:04:29Z")

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CTTM2 goes better with A314. Also, I do two drops of A314 with 3 drops of A1 and 1 or 2x CTTM2. TRy it! You should get 30 or 40 somethings running after you, lol. I would add Instant shine to lure in younger girls!

> [@TheGodfather](#):
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.
> 
> I think I really need to just get a pipette and correctly mix up a batch of A1+IO.
> 
> I did try the A314+IO, but I can not comment on the added or lessened effect if any.
> 
> Also to note, I was pretty none heavy that night…and someone threw an empty crushed can directly at my forehead. It came out of no where. The person was obviously a coward.
> 
> My reaction- not a single flinch or movement (I guess thats kind of comical), I just turned to my friend and started talking and telling him what happened. I kept my cool… I could not say the same if I had known who threw it.
> 
> Just a tid bit… I did look like a big asshole in my costume, so that along with the 2 drops-A314 and 4-ammo probably did provoke some alpha male wanna be. I never wear this much of either product to the bar. Why I did this time I do not know.
> 
> I have stated before, that generally every other weekend I receive  
> some form of aggression (always from drunk individuals) while out, someone always has to challenge me in some way. This can be from strangers or even “friends”. I have never been in a physical fight though.
> 
> For my Halloween costume I was going for a cartel-ish character.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 11:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/13 "2010-11-02T11:08:59Z")

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> [@TheGodfather](#):
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> Ps. as far as using to-go bottles…how the hell do you guys open them up???

Simply remove the label and unscrew the pump. Then clean the bottle and pump mech then refil with your chosen mix when dry - you may need to use some spirit to clean any label glue off the outside of the bottle.

When you refill, it is also wise to put a bit of tape round the join between pump and bottle. This stops it loosening in your pocket and leaking - overtightening can cause the threads to distort and leak too.

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**Author:** ![Onedzguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onedzguy/32/1382_2.png) [@Onedzguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Onedzguy)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 11:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/14 "2010-11-02T11:12:52Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> Simply remove the label and unscrew the pump. Then clean the bottle and pump mech then refil with your chosen mix when dry - you may need to use some spirit to clean any label glue off the outside of the bottle.
> 
> When you refill, it is also wise to put a bit of tape round the join between pump and bottle. This stops it loosening in your pocket and leaking - overtightening can cause the threads to distort and leak too.

I use 3 or 4 wraps of plumber’s tape on the threads. It works better and its easy to change and wrap again.

ODG

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 12:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/15 "2010-11-02T12:01:15Z")

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Do you mean the PTFE tape on the threads themselves? Yes, I can see how that would work very well. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Onedzguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onedzguy/32/1382_2.png) [@Onedzguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Onedzguy)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 12:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-a1-with-a314-oil/42971/16 "2010-11-02T12:17:19Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> Do you mean the PTFE tape on the threads themselves? Yes, I can see how that would work very well. 🙂

Yes, the one and the same. ODG
