# MIxing for first time **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 17, 2008, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-for-first-time/11326 "2008-04-17T03:28:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GHOST2.2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dc4da7/32.png) [@GHOST2.2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GHOST2.2)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-for-first-time/11326/1 "2008-04-17T03:28:18Z")
Well I finally have [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) Instant Shine Turn Up The Heat and AMMO…im about to go out to a local bar tonite and im about to mix all for the first time… I’m going with… 3x spray of IO 3x spray of Instant Shine to-go 1x spray of TUTH 1x spray of AMMO to-go what do you all think? ---
**Author:** ![ponderu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ponderu/32/465_2.png) [@ponderu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ponderu)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-for-first-time/11326/2 "2008-04-17T03:38:59Z")
If it were me I would skip the turn up the heat and go with a couple sprays of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) unless I already had people there that I knew might be interested in hooking up.. and I would carry the TUTH with me just in case something developed. Then again a turtle never gets anywhere until it sticks its neck out so go for it and good luck. We will be waiting to hear the results. Ponderu ---
**Author:** ![E\_J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2bfe46/32.png) [@E\_J](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/E_J)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 1:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-for-first-time/11326/3 "2008-04-17T13:14:51Z")
That sounds like the mix I use for second dates! (with great results BTW). How old are you? I would throw in one more spray of Ammo (I’m 28) and 1 more of IS (I wear 2 sprays of 2x IS). Remember it is mostrly YOU not the pheros that have to do the work to get the girl Good luck and have fun ---
**Author:** ![GHOST2.2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dc4da7/32.png) [@GHOST2.2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GHOST2.2)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-for-first-time/11326/4 "2008-04-17T19:03:21Z")
damn there wasn’t many girls out last night…i got some looks but other than that nothing major ☹…where should i apply for each?..im 22 i took a shower this morning to get rid of the pheros…i scrubed with soap…after that I could still take whiffs of the pheros… ---
**Author:** ![ponderu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ponderu/32/465_2.png) [@ponderu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ponderu)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 7:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-for-first-time/11326/5 "2008-04-17T19:21:00Z")
> [@GHOST2.2](#): > > damn there wasn’t many girls out last night…i got some DIHL stares but other than that nothing major ☹…where should i apply for each?..im 22 > > i took a shower this morning to get rid of the pheros…i scrubed with soap…after that I could still take whiffs of the pheros… Don’t you hate it when they hide on you… For Ammo and turn up the heat, Wrists, neck, chest. I would put the turn up the heat on the back of your neck. For the others they can go the same points or in your hair which is good at getting them out their by diffusion. Ammo and Turn up the heat will be difficult to wash out of your hair so you will have to worry about build up. You said DIHL stares happened, I am not sure but you may need to tone it down a bit. I am not sure what you actually wore but it might have been to large of a dose. Let us know what you actually wore and see what kind of feedback you get from others. Ponderu ---
**Author:** ![GHOST2.2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dc4da7/32.png) [@GHOST2.2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GHOST2.2)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-for-first-time/11326/6 "2008-04-17T19:26:45Z")
> [@ponderu](#): > > Don’t you hate it when they hide on you… For Ammo and turn up the heat, Wrists, neck, chest. I would put the turn up the heat on the back of your neck. For the others they can go the same points or in your hair which is good at getting them out their by diffusion. Ammo and Turn up the heat will be difficult to wash out of your hair so you will have to worry about build up. > You said DIHL stares happened, I am not sure but you may need to tone it down a bit. I am not sure what you actually wore but it might have been to large of a dose. Let us know what you actually wore and see what kind of feedback you get from others. > Ponderu might have over done it a bit lol 4x IO on hair 4x IS 2 on hair 2 on behind each ear 2x AMMO on neck 1.5x TUTH on chest ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-for-first-time/11326/7 "2008-04-17T19:38:36Z")
Hmm, you are getting girls to stare at you like deer in headlights and you want to know what you are doing wrong? Read this thread. > [@What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558): > > A lot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get a lot of PM’s from people asking me why "they couldn’t get there cheati… ---
**Author:** ![GHOST2.2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dc4da7/32.png) [@GHOST2.2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GHOST2.2)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-for-first-time/11326/8 "2008-04-18T04:06:18Z")
understood…but what do you all recommend for applications with these 4 products?..i am 22 years old…just looking to talk to a girl or 2…get numbers maybe happy ending wouldn’t hurt 😛…can you OD on IO and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)? ---
**Author:** ![soe\_none](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/soe_none/32/2344_2.png) [@soe\_none](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/soe_none)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-for-first-time/11326/9 "2008-04-18T04:30:37Z")
IS, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Ammo and Turn Up The Heat is a weird combo (ammo+Turn Up The Heat is effective or so this board reports). But like the other poster said, TUTH will give you an aggressive sexual vibe that might scare away a chick you just wanna talk to. use it when you want to escalate an encounter..e.g. you meet a chick, talk, make out, escape to the restroom, apply turn up the heat, then come back to her and…you know the rest. BTW I wouldnt use IS and instant openness in a bar setting…unless you look unapproachable and need to tone down your image. Go with A314/Ammo/MX203. I also heard the experimental Come Talk To Me Mix 2 is good as well for club/bar setting. ---
**Author:** ![GHOST2.2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dc4da7/32.png) [@GHOST2.2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GHOST2.2)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-for-first-time/11326/10 "2008-04-18T04:52:41Z")
how about 2x spray ammo to chest…1x [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to hair…1x Instant Openness to wrists…1x instant shine to chin and another one behind ears? leaving Turn Up The Heat incase things go good afterwards? just suggestions would help… Im kind of a shy guy…good looking…22 years old…ive already found my sweet spot with TUTH…and think i found it for IO and IS…not sure about ammo ---
**Author:** ![ponderu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ponderu/32/465_2.png) [@ponderu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ponderu)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 5:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-for-first-time/11326/11 "2008-04-18T05:42:14Z")
Your jumping into this with both feet and that is good in a way. I think that it still might be better taking the time to do the testing one at a time. When you got your results you were wearing both ammo and turn up the heat which both have ~none in it and quite a bit combined. My opinion would be 1-2 sprays Ammo and 1-2 sprays each of openness and shine would be a good spot to start. I would not apply the Turn up the heat until you had the opportunity to capitalize on what it does. That still means your going to have to start the conversation to get there, if they are looking at you and your interested, you have to let them know that. A smile, a wink, a growl, conversation or asking them to dance if you can will get things going. Nothing is going to happen if your waiting for them. NADA. Go out, get to know them, and just go to have fun. Don’t expect them to drop to their knees in the club.. though that would be entertaining..they are just not going to do that. Ok.. sermon over, now back to our regularly scheduled program. Ponderu ---
**Author:** ![GHOST2.2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dc4da7/32.png) [@GHOST2.2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GHOST2.2)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 5:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-for-first-time/11326/12 "2008-04-18T05:46:45Z")
haha thanks man…sure will try to work my magic tommarow and will come back on here with results…start my journal tomm. 🙂