# Mixing men's and women's pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 8, 2011, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-mens-and-womens-pheromones/44464 "2011-01-08T03:55:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Durruti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Durruti](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Durruti)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-mens-and-womens-pheromones/44464/1 "2011-01-08T03:55:10Z")
Sorry if this has already been answered, but I couldn’t find anything about it. The girl that I am interested in identifies as pansexual – she is attracted to both men and women. In this situation would it be a good idea to take advantage of both male and female [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/)? What would happen? Would they cancel each other out? Would I spontaneously combust? How would congruency come in to play here? If anyone has tried this, what happened? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-mens-and-womens-pheromones/44464/2 "2011-01-08T04:27:34Z")
Here’s the thing and I could be WAY off base on this. Essentially she’s saying she’s bisexual…unless she’s also into bestiality and other shit pan sexual is just a way of saying bi but trying to make it sound more special than it is. That said, it means she can feel attraction for either men or women…that gives me no reason to believe that an effeminate man or a severely butch woman have better chances at sparking attraction than anyone else. Now I could be wrong, technically being gay means you’re a man (and one would assume masculine) who is attracted to men (with one would assume, masculine characteristics) yet so many gay men come across as effeminate to a degree that even women consider a bit much. Likewise a lesbian should in theory be a woman (and feminine) who is attracted to the feminine characteristics of women…yet I see lesbian couples where both partners wear Doc Martins and have shaved heads so who knows? Personally just because she’s attracted to women as well as men doesn’t mean you’ll improve your chances with her by incorporating a more feminine phero signature. If anything it may backfire. You’re a man and she knows you’re a man, she has certain needs and expectations from men, and others from women…I would imagine she accepts and expects her men to be masculine and women to be feminine. As a man with a fem sig…well regardless of your signature she’s not going to expect you to have a vagina so no matter what she knows you can’t satisfy her attraction for women. A feminine sig would buffer your masculine sig and likely make it seem like you’re not masculine enough to satisfy what she expects from a man. If you really want to experiment, I’d suggest maybe a small dose of TAL, it’s a feminine signature but a more dominant alpha female type of signature. It could give you a feminine quality without making you seem weak. Myself, personally I’d go a for a mix called IIIIIIIIII AM ALL THAT IS MAAAAAAAN!!! And yes you have to drag out the words when you say it 1 Spray IG 1 spray IJ spiked with EOW 15 mcg of A1 1 spray IO Be so male that nobody else could be…then allow her interest in women to work to your advantage. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-mens-and-womens-pheromones/44464/3 "2011-01-08T19:45:50Z")
I often wear [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) with A314 and/or NPA and while it does not encourage bisexuality one iota (or pan-sexuality!) , it does mellow the hardness of ultra masculine mones, and thereby enhancing attractiveness and approachability. Younger women especially seem to like it as it puts them at ease without defeating the alpha vibe of NPA or A314. ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-mens-and-womens-pheromones/44464/4 "2011-01-08T21:44:16Z")
You´re talking about ISb here Gegogi ? Pago ---
**Author:** ![hschooler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7cd45c/32.png) [@hschooler](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hschooler)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-mens-and-womens-pheromones/44464/5 "2011-01-08T22:00:54Z")
Rad’s advice sounds pretty solid. I remember coming across a journal in which the op described IJ’s effect on his bisexual co worker. He wrote that she was extremely turned on and she literally told him “I can smell the last woman you’ve been with, and it’s turning me on”. I can’t remember the rest of what happened though. Though it was explained that this happened because [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) contains female couplins to basically give off a vibe that you’ve just finished sleeping with a woman. And that’s probably why women can tell if you’ve been sleeping around. Just sharing some knowledge I came across. Hope it helps 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-mens-and-womens-pheromones/44464/6 "2011-01-09T02:10:49Z")
Unfortunately Androtics discontinued the use of cops in IJ and as well all female products. So if you want the “freshly fucked” vibe you need to go ala carte with EOW or actually get fucked. The dirtier the woman, the more the rank the stank…