# Mixing Vs layering **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 20, 2014, 10:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-vs-layering/62453 "2014-07-20T10:26:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sillysilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@sillysilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sillysilly)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 10:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-vs-layering/62453/1 "2014-07-20T10:26:11Z")
Will tac and tuth be better if i mixed them in the same togo bottle. Rather than layering them. TAC is - Appreciation! vs flattery that tuth by itself gives. I’m very confident in that report. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2014, 11:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-vs-layering/62453/2 "2014-07-20T11:48:20Z")
No comparison - its layering all the way. ---
**Author:** ![sillysilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@sillysilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sillysilly)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 6:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-vs-layering/62453/3 "2014-07-21T06:25:51Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > No comparison - its layering all the way. ok i remember awhile back reading someone saying that the mixes sold on androtics will act differently than if you layered al the same molecules, as they bind together when you mix them? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 8:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-vs-layering/62453/4 "2014-07-21T08:20:57Z")
Never found a huge difference between them - except that when mixing, your chances of being landed with something useless is much higher and once you start spraying a premix, the chances of modifying it on the go effectively as the changing dose/proportions go all-off. Once you have an effective mix it is of course quite feasible to make-up a few days worth in a togo to make your life easier on the move but again, nothing more than you would be willing to throw away. ---
**Author:** ![Ruckus24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e56c9b/32.png) [@Ruckus24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ruckus24)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-vs-layering/62453/5 "2014-07-22T00:46:02Z")
So are you saying combing two cloud ruin the effects. I recently mixed two and now I’m wondering if it’s a waste. It was instant openness and ammo they were both at half so I said why not. That is of course before finding this out. ---
**Author:** ![WesleyLC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e5b9ba/32.png) [@WesleyLC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WesleyLC)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 9:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-vs-layering/62453/6 "2014-07-22T09:28:15Z")
I have to say layering also… I tried mixing once and it didn’t end good. Just wait about 5 mins in between sprays and you should be fine. ---
**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 11:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-vs-layering/62453/7 "2014-07-22T11:10:37Z")
when molecules bind you will notice the effects can change, and also the scent can change. Pay attention to the scent. With some combinations layering one over the other can leave almost no scent. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-vs-layering/62453/8 "2014-07-22T17:35:46Z")
[Intermolecular force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermolecular_force#mediaviewer/File:Hydrogen-bonding-in-water-2D.png) ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-vs-layering/62453/9 "2014-07-22T20:47:43Z")
Gecko toes have special adaptations that allow them to\* [adhere](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesion) to most surfaces without the use of liquids or [surface tension](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_tension). _About 60% of gecko species have adhesive toe pads; such pads have been gained and lost repeatedly over the course of gecko evolution.[14] ([Gecko - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko#cite_note-plosone.org-14)) Adhesive toepads evolved independently in about 11 different gecko lineages and were lost in at least 9 lineages.[14] ([Gecko - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko#cite_note-plosone.org-14)) The spatula-shaped [setae](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seta) arranged in [lamellae](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamella_%28anatomy%29) on gecko footpads e_nable attractive [van der Waals’ forces](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_der_Waals%27_force) \*between the β-keratin ([Beta-keratin - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-keratin)) lamellae/setae/spatulae structures and the surface.[15] ([Gecko - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko#cite_note-15))[16] ([Gecko - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko#cite_note-Santos2007-16)) These van der Waals interactions involve no fluids; in theory, a boot made of [synthetic setae](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_setae) would adhere as easily to the surface of the [International Space Station](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Space_Station) as it would to a living-room wall, although _adhesion varies with humidity_.[17] ([Gecko - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko#cite_note-Puthoff-17))[18] ([Gecko - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko#cite_note-Prowse-18)) The setae on the feet of geckos are also self-cleaning and will usually remove any clogging dirt within a few steps.[19] ([Gecko - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko#cite_note-Hansen-19))[20] ([Gecko - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko#cite_note-20)) [Teflon](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene), which has very low surface energy,[21] ([Gecko - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko#cite_note-21)) is more difficult for geckos to adhere to than many other surfaces. In [physical chemistry](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_chemistry), the **van der Waals force** (or **van der Waals’ interaction** ), named after [Dutch](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands) [scientist](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientist) [Johannes Diderik van der Waals](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Diderik_van_der_Waals), is the sum of the _attractive or repulsive forces between [molecules](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecule)_ (or between parts of the same molecule) other than those due to [covalent bonds](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covalent_bond) or the [electrostatic interaction](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_interaction) of [ions](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion) with one another or with neutral molecules or charged molecules. Van der Waals forces include attractions and repulsions between atoms, molecules, and **surfaces** , as well as other intermolecular forces. They differ from [covalent](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covalent_bond) and [ionic](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionic_bond) bonding in that they are caused by correlations in the fluctuating polarizations of nearby particles (a consequence of [quantum dynamics](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_dynamics)[3] ([Van der Waals force - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_der_Waals%27_force#cite_note-Abrikosov-3))). _"I may not be a chemical structure expert, but from the molecule name, molecular weight, and the little Vander Waals 3d visualization, [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) looks like it’s pretty far from AndrostA and AndrostE anything._" > [@Adding p75 to p93 can prevent blacks and asians to be replled?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/adding-p75-to-p93-can-prevent-blacks-and-asians-to-be-replled/43888): > > this is the first time, most asians and blacks did not get repelled by my using 15+ ug of p93 in a mix… What I did differently than any mix before was that I added 2.5mcg of p75 to it, beliving that p75 can enhance sexy masculinty. Early in the day, I used 2 drops of A314 + 20 mcg A1… Two hours later, I added 2x to go IS + 20mcg p93 + 2.5 mcg p75. I have tried this combo before, sans p75; I had blacks and asians trying to avoid me. When I had used, A314 + 20mcg A1 + IS before, I didn’t see t… ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/5/51ce9482a792070fa419573d89ee21636f6de274.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mixing-vs-layering/62453/10 "2014-07-22T21:19:27Z")
> [@](#): > > when molecules bind you will notice the effects can change, and also the scent can change. Pay attention to the scent. With some combinations layering one over the other can leave almost no scent. \<\<\< The force is strong with this one.