# Moikka! Pheromones to Attract Hetero Guys. Bi-M/35/Europe **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 16, 2016, 6:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487 "2016-01-16T06:24:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![8472](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/4da419/32.png) [@8472](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/8472)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 6:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/1 "2016-01-16T06:24:06Z")
Hello! “Just tell us a bit about yourself (age, personality, sex and location help a lot) and why you’re here. Include a question or two about anything you want.” Ok, let’s do that 🙂 I am 35, Bi guy and from northern Europe. Why am I here? I dont dare to say that! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![8472](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/4da419/32.png) [@8472](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/8472)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/2 "2016-01-16T10:55:10Z")
Well, maybe a bit more: I am bisexual and recently I found out that some of my hetero friends like doing gay stuff with me. Like cuddling, massage and kissing. Of course they have their limits. And I was wondering how i could get more out of such situations, to make them more open, more cuddely. Two members refused to help me because they said that it is against their ethic standarts. (Maybe I expressed myself not correctly.) Anyway, I thougt about it and I cant see any difference between manipulating a lady or a guy to be more interested, disinhibited or what ever. And yeah, I think that the guys are straight, but with a desire for intimacy. Sauna, wine and steaks, deep conversation, massage, cuddling and stuff like that. Any ideas which [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) could intensify that? I thought maybe even female pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/3 "2016-01-16T12:56:46Z")
Hi 8472, Welcome to the site. So interesting you bring up female pheromones as I actually tested a few out, purely out of curiosity . SO what I have found out is gay men are attracted to a mans signature and female pheromones will do nothing to excite them. Now MX274 is more geared towards women but I have found this one does work on men as well. The only problem is it is a chocolate/grapefruit scent that is a little over bearing. I have found that gay men actually prefer more the same pheromones that work on women. I would take a look into the **Men’s Ultimate Kit** as this would have everything you need in one kit. The main [attraction pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/sensual-pheromones/) I have found to work on men are **Ammo** I have found this one to be very effective. When I wear around my gay male friends they hit on me like crazy. **IG** This works really well to. This gives off a more mature vibe. I am a straight man myself. I suggest taking a look into HankBuddy journal as you should find everything you could want there. If you have any questions don’t be a stranger and you can send most of us a PM and we will respond. Good Luck!!! ---
**Author:** ![Spectrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Spectrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spectrum)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/4 "2016-01-16T13:57:26Z")
hello and welcome to the forum . I think my friend Justin has already given you a good advice. So can read more about attracting gay, here on this site. The site is full of personal experiences and reports. Keep posting and take care ---
**Author:** ![8472](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/4da419/32.png) [@8472](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/8472)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/5 "2016-01-16T16:05:31Z")
I think that my case is a bit different. I want to influense hetero guys. I read a trustworth scientifc article about this topic. They wrote that male pheromones have an effect on the brain of women and gay men, not on straight men. And that [female pheromones](https://phera.com/) effect starigh men’s brains. (Other combinations werent mentioned) That would mean that pheromones for atracting gay guys wont necesarily work. Pheromones which effect both genders or maybe female pheromones. I did already some research here: For both genders i found: P96, P83, P74, IO For women: Instant Sexyness A, MX135 I read somewhere that TUTH effects hetero guys as well… Maybe I go for first for P96, P83, P74, IO. I could use that for anyone. ---
**Author:** ![8472](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/4da419/32.png) [@8472](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/8472)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/6 "2016-01-16T16:06:01Z")
What effect does neroli have? ---
**Author:** ![Spectrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Spectrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spectrum)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/7 "2016-01-16T16:10:53Z")
Neroli is scent/perfume used in products to mask the smell of pheromones. Regarding selections of Putatives (P 96, 74, 83 ) : I would say first go with products from Instant line rather than selecting too many P. May be some of the Homo/bi sexual members will be able to elaborate more on your requirements. Would also suggest, to read a few Gay/Bi journals here on forum , they have captured (as I can remember) , what you are talking about. keep posting, take care ---
**Author:** ![8472](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/4da419/32.png) [@8472](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/8472)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/8 "2016-01-16T16:13:19Z")
I read somewhere that neroli amplifies the effect of pheromones. Is that true? ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/9 "2016-01-16T17:26:17Z")
> [@8472](#): > > Two members refused to help me because they said that it is against their ethic standarts. Present! I’m one of them. It’s the first time ever that I choose to do that. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/10 "2016-01-16T17:30:04Z")
No, Neroli is a scent - a carrier for the pheromones and it that role it does very well and helps get the pheros off your skin an into the people you are interested-in. Its based on orange oil and some scents do have natural pheromonal properties (see also Hedione, Musk etc) Neroli’s is pretty small compared to the pheros you are using. Which is probably why AD use is as a base scent - so it effects the products least, other than by good diffusion and lightness. If your friends already have some gay inclinations, you might want to be considering some of the more sexual products, steered with disinhibitors - so stuff like Ammo, [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/), or TUTH as your primary, with steering from something like P83 (physical disinhibition) or P96 (emotional disinhibition) would be a way forward. Although I use it in straight mixes, P96 is one that has got me resounding hits from both sexes, so it certainly seems to help people be comfortable with and express their arousal/attraction to me. Although no phero will replace anyone’s free-will and make them do anything they were not already at least part-way inclined to do. ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 4:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/11 "2016-01-17T04:44:22Z")
Hello 8472! Welcome to PheromoneTalk! 🙂 Your GC is now in your email. 🙂 Happy Pheroing! 🙂 ======= _ **Disclosure:** I’ve edited your thread title from **“Moikka!”** to **“Moikka! Pheromones to Attract Hetero Guys. Bi-M/35/Europe”** for topic clarity and forum readability. It’ll also generate more “reads” to your thread. If you want to opt-out simply let me know. Thank you!_ ---
**Author:** ![8472](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/4da419/32.png) [@8472](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/8472)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/12 "2016-01-17T09:41:47Z")
> [@Conjurator](#): > > Present! I’m one of them. It’s the first time ever that I choose to do that. 🆒 I consider that as a compliment! :o ---
**Author:** ![8472](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/4da419/32.png) [@8472](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/8472)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 9:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/13 "2016-01-17T09:48:21Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > If your friends already have some gay inclinations, you might want to be considering some of the more sexual products, steered with disinhibitors - so stuff like Ammo, Mystery Boy, or TUTH as your primary, with steering from something like P83 (physical disinhibition) or P96 (emotional disinhibition) would be a way forward. Although I use it in straight mixes, P96 is one that has got me resounding hits from both sexes, so it certainly seems to help people be comfortable with and express their arousal/attraction to me. Although no phero will replace anyone’s free-will and make them do anything they were not already at least part-way inclined to do. It is exactly what I am looking for. Isn’t Ammo, [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/), or TUTH for straight men targeting straight women? ---
**Author:** ![8472](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/4da419/32.png) [@8472](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/8472)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 9:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/14 "2016-01-17T09:55:25Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > like P83 (physical disinhibition) or P96 (emotional disinhibition). What concentration shall i order? Anyway how a about the dosage? The more the better? Probably not. Can I apply too much? ---
**Author:** ![8472](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/4da419/32.png) [@8472](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/8472)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2016, 8:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/15 "2016-01-18T08:44:47Z")
…and shall I post my expriences? Is anyone interested in those? ---
**Author:** ![Spectrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Spectrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spectrum)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2016, 9:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/16 "2016-01-18T09:20:36Z")
With pheromones less is often more. you should start with lower doses first. Then increase dose and find out your sweet spot. Yes all are encouraged to start a journal of their own. this will help others in learning from your experiences and you too can keep a record of what works best for you . And yes we do read them . ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/17 "2017-01-17T07:59:42Z")
> [@8472](#): > > …and shall I post my expriences? > Is anyone interested in those? Hi! Of course we do. We love to see your results. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moikka-pheromones-to-attract-hetero-guys-bi-m-35-europe/65487/18 "2017-01-18T13:44:33Z")
> [@8472](#): > > …and shall I post my expriences? > Is anyone interested in those? I am very interested as well to see what you got good, bad, and anything in between yes please!