# molecule K=TAK **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 12, 2008, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/molecule-k-tak/13847 "2008-06-12T18:57:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 59
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 10:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/molecule-k-tak/13847/59 "2008-07-01T10:25:11Z")
I agree that WAGG and TAK are similar in effects. In my experience though WAGG lasts longer - probably 4-5 hours whereas TAK is faster diffusing. Although I don’t think the bottle of TAK I used had extra fixatives/fragrances in there. These two are both potent anti-‘Clint Eastwood effect’ (approachability enhancing) type products. If you have a mean looking face and don’t smile much they can be quite useful in judicious amounts. They can both tone down AndrostEnone as well - leaving more of the good stuff (sexual tension/arousal) and less of the bad stuff (aggression). Too much though of WAGG and/or TAK will lead to reactions where people don’t really respect you (see below). I find that with older people (except for elderly ladies perhaps) and with (even young) Alphas generally, one can OD on the WAGG/TAK ‘nice approachable guy’ effect very easily causing one to be tossed around like a ‘rag doll’ lol… [Worst product you have ever used - #4 by Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/worst-product-you-have-ever-used/443/4) Rob (June 22, 2006): “… **The absolute worst I’ve tried was WAGG!!! That has to be some sort of wimp pheremone or something. I may as well just sit there and “wagg my butt” like some loser, because that is exactly the type of hits it subconsciously gives** …” [Lone Wolves/CEE : IS/m + WAGG - #5 by Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lone-wolves-cee-is-m-wagg/470/5) Rob (July 6, 2006): “ **WAGG for some reason seems to be a wussy pheromone. I tried it on certain people and I noticed that girls were prone to treating you like a “nice guy” and you were more of a target for bully’s.** ” [Asians and mones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/asians-and-mones/287/5) sigma (April 14, 2006): "What’s up pilot, Asians typically benefit from wearing more none. I usually wear twice as much none as people typically wear. I haven’t felt the need to wear any more than 3 drops (though I usually wear 2) of A314 , so I don’t think there’s too much variability on ethnicity as far as [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/). One thing I have noticed, however, is that I VERY easily stumble into the negative reactions with the softer products. I’m still famiarizing myself with the products here so I couldn’t offer much in regards to what’s used here, **but I’ve had experiences with [Androstadienone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) and WAGG where people around me grew highly condescending.** **Nowadays I usually use these products in highly intimate or personal situations only, or when off-set with a none heavy product.**" [Can women use Instant Female Magic? Good for mood, but careful around men - #58 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic/329/58) sigma (June 11, 2006): “…I noticed the same with WAGG, so I eventually ditched it. I had high hopes when I got WAGG based on the feedback that people gave it on LS, **but in my case it had a pretty profound anti-sexual effect…to the extent of creating condescension from others.** This all went away with low doses of WAGG, however at those doses I saw no beneficial effects either…” [Help/Advice A314/IS - #107 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/107) sigma (August 22, 2006): “… **In my case WAGG created nothing but negative effects, however the experience taught me to lay low with the comfort pheromones, and to focus more on social and aggressive pheromones** …” [What pheromones do WAGG contain? - #4 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/4) sigma (May 14, 2007): “\*\*WAGG is definitely a product that seems to soften a person’s image…for better or for worse. It has actually elicited some condescension in people in my case…\*\*this is easily tempered with something more aggressive, but it became pointless for me to ever use it, as there were no real beneficial effects for me…only negative ones that I needed to mitigate with other pheromones. I think the condescension came with mixes that incorporated a lot of androstadienone…its been a while since I’ve used it…” `http://smellscent.blogspot.com/` **nbully79 (August 1, 2007): "Day report 08/01/07: 2 drops WAGG** Today applied 2 drops WAGG from the 4 ml bottle with dropper and covered with Geir. \*\*Asian girl in lab was cold and little bitchy. It’s very typical behavior from her whenever I wear Wagg. Gradually she warmed up but I think it does give some low status male vibe. \*\*Hey atleast its consistent!" nbully79 (August 30, 2007): “… **V-5 doesn’t seem to bring the disrespectful reactions like WAGG does.** ” nbully79 (February 17, 2008): “… **I am very surprised how WAGG lowers you on the social ladder a few notches and sometimes also Scent of Eros** …” nbully79 (March 4, 2008): “… **Labmate didn’t abreact too badly to either Wagg or The Edge, she did start to be a little difficult on first exposure but soon became nicer. She has a huge problem whenever I wear Wagg or high doses of The Edge without A314.** No over the top reactions yet but it’s a nice enhancement…” --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/molecule-k-tak/13847)._