# mones and kids

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-kids/59182>\
**Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\
**Created:** [June 2, 2013, 4:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-kids/59182 "2013-06-02T04:50:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![MagicGlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MagicGlen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MagicGlen)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 8:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-kids/59182/21 "2013-06-15T08:00:28Z")

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> [@monesmadedoit](#):
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> Ok, Magic. I have conducted some experiments with a substrate designed to approximate the structure and diffusion of human skin. With -eNone (10 mcg), after 4 hours, I felt some hostility (annoyance) toward an inanimate object. Anthropomorphism. I duplicated similar findings with P102, TAC and P75. These were conducted at room temperature and humidity in still air, with approx 125 cubic feet air volume. I have access to a 50K student univ and med school. I read many journals. I also invent devices and conduct tests–for personal use. The substrate is a special fabric used in medical supplies. Tacitus did testing with leather belts. He passed away. Try searching the forum.

very interesting thanks. what would you think of androstenone on wooden fence? i am just curious

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> access to a 50K student univ and med school.

with your access what do you think of attraction claims

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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 9:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-kids/59182/22 "2013-06-15T09:58:46Z")

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> [@MagicGlen](#):
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> very interesting thanks. what would you think of androstenone on wooden fence? i am just curious
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> with your access what do you think of attraction claims

I don’t think diffusion off a wooden fence would occur. It would all disperse into the atmosphere. I feel evidence supports androsterone and chemicals related to it (naturally occurring in the body) are best for attraction. Androtics, from the beginning, has tried to identify these natural substances, make them in the lab and test them for pheromone properties. I can’t tell you what’s in A314 or IG. But the best companies use androsterone and it’s close cousins in the premiere (costliest) products they sell. Androsterone status products have solid support. JV Kohl is an esteemed researcher, as is Michael Harris. The primary Alpha product of leading companies is heavy Rone. Women crave the desirable (often unattainable) man.

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**Author:** ![MagicGlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MagicGlen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MagicGlen)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-kids/59182/23 "2013-06-15T14:54:09Z")

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> [@monesmadedoit](#):
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> I don’t think diffusion off a wooden fence would occur. It would all disperse into the atmosphere. I feel evidence supports androsterone and chemicals related to it (naturally occurring in the body) are best for attraction. Androtics, from the beginning, has tried to identify these natural substances, make them in the lab and test them for pheromone properties. I can’t tell you what’s in A314 or IG. But the best companies use androsterone and it’s close cousins in the premiere (costliest) products they sell. Androsterone status products have solid support. JV Kohl is an esteemed researcher, as is Michael Harris. The primary Alpha product of leading companies is heavy Rone. Women crave the desirable (often unattainable) man.

Did you ever hear of contact 18 i think it was androstenone. Aerosol 1980’s did not work but since being here have learned that androstenone may be intimidating

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 3:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-kids/59182/24 "2013-06-15T15:00:31Z")

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> have you a link?

Here is the link to pub med

[Home - PubMed - NCBI](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed)

They publish mostly abstracts. The abstract is in there. In most cases, to see full studies you need to subscribe to the journal that published the study. There is a yearly subscription rate to most of them.

But there are plenty of other studies in pubmed you can read the abstracts of. They will point you to the correct journals if you want to subscribe.

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> Ok, Magic. I have conducted some experiments with a substrate designed to approximate the structure and diffusion of human skin. With -eNone (10 mcg), after 4 hours, I felt some hostility (annoyance) toward an inanimate object. Anthropomorphism. I duplicated similar findings with P102, TAC and P75. These were conducted at room temperature and humidity in still air, with approx 125 cubic feet air volume.

Blind test or were you aware the anone was there ?

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> I don’t think diffusion off a wooden fence would occur. It would all disperse into the atmosphere. I feel evidence supports androsterone and chemicals related to it (naturally occurring in the body) are best for attraction. Androtics, from the beginning, has tried to identify these natural substances, make them in the lab and test them for pheromone properties. I can’t tell you what’s in A314 or IG. But the best companies use androsterone and it’s close cousins in the premiere (costliest) products they sell. Androsterone status products have solid support. JV Kohl is an esteemed researcher, as is Michael Harris. The primary Alpha product of leading companies is heavy Rone. Women crave the desirable (often unattainable) man.

Magic just in case you didn’t notice Anone and arone are almost spelled the same. Don’t confuse the two. I agree with monesmadedoit, diffusion would be a issue and arone is a primary component in most good attraction mixes.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-kids/59182/25 "2013-06-15T16:08:01Z")

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The fence. It’s not the -eNone but the number of molecules per given volume of air. Mones have a potent effect in cars. 1 spray of IJ. Negative reactions in cars. Outdoors? Levels never build high enough. Molecules take wind and fly off. Buy cheap methane detector for house. Open unlit gas stove burner. Alarm will not sound until gas concentration reaches harmful level. They have spray animal repellents for outdoor use. Probably not legal for people. Journals are copyrighted (not free) online, but state universities have full-text databases with everything. College library = expensive books and journals free. Never heard of -eNone aerosol. On farms, they use electric fence chargers. Don’t get any ideas for the kiddies. Not cool.

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**Author:** ![MagicGlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MagicGlen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MagicGlen)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-kids/59182/26 "2013-06-15T19:25:06Z")

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> [@monesmadedoit](#):
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> The fence. It’s not the -eNone but the number of molecules per given volume of air. Mones have a potent effect in cars. 1 spray of IJ. Negative reactions in cars. Outdoors? Levels never build high enough. Molecules take wind and fly off. Buy cheap methane detector for house. Open unlit gas stove burner. Alarm will not sound until gas concentration reaches harmful level. They have spray animal repellents for outdoor use. Probably not legal for people. Journals are copyrighted (not free) online, but state universities have full-text databases with everything. College library = expensive books and journals free. Never heard of -eNone aerosol. On farms, they use electric fence chargers. Don’t get any ideas for the kiddies. **Not cool.**

not stupid

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