# Mones and the Law of Attraction **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 24, 2010, 4:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511 "2010-11-24T04:16:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jackslater](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jackslater/32/1476_2.png) [@jackslater](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jackslater)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 4:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/1 "2010-11-24T04:16:57Z")
maybe this has already been covered…but I’ll give it a go. I have pondered with the idea of whether or not there is some mysterious connection between A314, and all mones, and the Law of Attraction. Meaning… One applies A314, which is known to gain respect, attention, and generally make life easier. Therefor, does the Law of Attraction then come into play and lead me into situations that actually are bringing me attention and making life easier for me? And does it lead to me, others that are ready to show respect and help make my life easier? I assume one could say this about all mones. Example… TUTH or AMMO would trigger the Law of Attraction and bring flirty and fun girls my way, or, girls that have been thinking about and craving a man that can satisfy her. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 5:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/2 "2010-11-24T05:56:05Z")
I think the two are in most respects separate issues. The law of attraction is the theory that desire+belief=manifestation. It holds that the mental and emotional energy you throw out there makes your imagination into reality. [Pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are a totally different animal altogether. They are naturally occurring molecules, usually metabolites/byproducts of our own natural hormones. They communicate information about us to others…information about our health and fitness but also about our mental/emotional states. While I don’t know of any scientific research to support this I imagine a very chatty talkative person probably has a naturally high Anol signature, while a person who’s very trustworthy, empathic and open emotionally probably has a very high Bnol signature. The only way I imagine the law of attraction having any relation to mones at all is with regards to your natural phero signature. Let me put it this way. If you just naturally produced a phero signature that was like 2 drops of A314…then you would BE that alpha male type…mentally and emotionally. If you are that type, then your inner beliefs, expectations and perceptions of reality would be congruent with the thoughts and beliefs of a high status man. And you would subconsciously be manifesting a reality that supports this perception. The attraction and phero’s would both be present but neither as a cause nor effect of the other. Rather, both would be side effects of the reality of who you are at the core and how that radiates out to the world. Artificial mones do what they do within the range that the molecules can travel and no further. However, if you believe in the products effectiveness, are optimistic about it’s potential and work on your congruence both in behavior and in your inner confidence and beliefs about yourself…then who knows. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/3 "2010-11-24T13:06:36Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > I think the two are in most respects separate issues. The law of attraction is the theory that desire+belief=manifestation. It holds that the mental and emotional energy you throw out there makes your imagination into reality. > > Pheromones are a totally different animal altogether. They are naturally occurring molecules, usually metabolites/byproducts of our own natural hormones. > They communicate information about us to others…information about our health and fitness but also about our mental/emotional states. While I don’t know of any scientific research to support this I imagine a very chatty talkative person probably has a naturally high Anol signature, while a person who’s very trustworthy, empathic and open emotionally probably has a very high Bnol signature. > > The only way I imagine the law of attraction having any relation to mones at all is with regards to your natural phero signature. Let me put it this way. > If you just naturally produced a phero signature that was like 2 drops of A314…then you would BE that alpha male type…mentally and emotionally. > If you are that type, then your inner beliefs, expectations and perceptions of reality would be congruent with the thoughts and beliefs of a high status man. > And you would subconsciously be manifesting a reality that supports this perception. > > The attraction and phero’s would both be present but neither as a cause nor effect of the other. Rather, both would be side effects of the reality of who you are at the core and how that radiates out to the world. > > Artificial mones do what they do within the range that the molecules can travel and no further. However, if you believe in the products effectiveness, are optimistic about it’s potential and work on your congruence both in behavior and in your inner confidence and beliefs about yourself…then who knows. Hey Radman this is the theory that I was asking about in my thread [pheromones vs personality](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-vs-personality/43495/2). So this is what I think about the law of attraction and pheromones. Like attracts like correct? So if you put on A314 you would attract alpha type people. A314 is known to attract alpha females. A314 also attracts Beta females, they just aren’t always as bold. IO is used as an opener to lubricate verbal communication. It would make sense that IO would attract naturally chatty people right? Except that when you use IO around shy people, they become chatty. So you have to understand that the primary purpose of pheromones is not self effect but is a communicator that has some effects on others. So it may attract the same, but it doesn’t lead you to a situation. ---
**Author:** ![jackslater](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jackslater/32/1476_2.png) [@jackslater](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jackslater)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 1:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/4 "2010-11-24T13:37:09Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > So this is what I think about the law of attraction and pheromones. Like attracts like correct? Agreed. That is a better way of wording what I intended to communicate. Rad is right about the theory, but isn’t that geared more toward the thinking/manifestation of things? As opposed to like simply attracting like? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/5 "2010-11-24T15:29:46Z")
Well that’s not exactly the law of attraction then. When it comes to mones you may find opposites attracted to you for balance. To better understand the concept read “King Warrior, Magician, Lover” or Dr Pauls “Mature Masculine Power”. While A314 does seem to attract alpha females it is also very attractive to naturally submissive women. They’re just less inclined to act on it without some encouragement on your part. What you’re talking about is more about tailoring the signal to attract a specific type of woman. This can be done but the risk of this is that usually going for a specific type of woman will turn off almost any others. Example: I have no doubts that if I concurred with the like attracts like theory regarding mones that a bunch of guys will go out covered in tuth thinking this will attract extremely sexual women. Now it won’t bring them into your life (which is what the law of attraction is about) but when you happen to come across a very sexual none responsive woman…yeah it will probably be very attractive to her. However she’ll probably be a little older…in fact even the AD store says the more TuTH you use the older the women are likely to be. Or she may have a naturally high test level for a woman, which can mean that while she’s horny as hell she may also have a deep voice, be slightly hairier than most men prefer and could have some acne issues. All traits associated with high test which is usually essential for a naturally occurring but abnormally high sex drive. It’s just not accurate with mones to say like attracts like. Yes naturally chatty people will be more responsive to somebody with an IO signature, but even quite people tend to open up more. If it was a matter of like attracting like, then people that are diametrically opposite of your signature would be repelled by you. While A314 may attract Alpha females and make gaining respect and acceptance among other Alpha males easier, it also effects naturally submissive women and beta males. TuTH is the sex product but can repel younger women and asian women. While IG which has no None in it at all can be a great product that leads to sex with these types of women. Now I know I used the phrase “like attracts like” in another thread, but that wasn’t in reference to any birds of a feather philosophy. If you read the rest of what I wrote I also wrote “what we expect, we tend to realize, what we focus on expands and the mind moves in the direction of it’s dominant thought” I stated that because several people were posting some fairly cynical and pessimistic opinions. I stated that because I do believe that the more cynical and pessimistic your world view is, the more you’ll bring negativity into your life to support that perspective. And you will subconsciously bring like minded negative people into your social circle to engage in a self indulgent circle jerk of pessimism and self pity. A positive attitude will attract positive people, confidence will attract both confident and shy women, though only the confident ones will make it known. Assertiveness will attract women that respond to assertiveness, while timidity will attract (at least for a short while) dominant controlling women. etc. You will from time to time see effects that support the like attracts like theory, but they are too inconsistent and not exclusive enough to be considered a general rule. ---
**Author:** ![Gracious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gracious/32/2247_2.png) [@Gracious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gracious)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/6 "2010-11-24T15:58:59Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > Hey Radman this is the theory that I was asking about in my thread [pheromones vs personality](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-vs-personality/43495/2). > > So this is what I think about the law of attraction and pheromones. Like attracts like correct? So if you put on A314 you would attract alpha type people. A314 is known to attract alpha females. A314 also attracts Beta females, they just aren’t always as bold. IO is used as an opener to lubricate verbal communication. It would make sense that IO would attract naturally chatty people right? Except that when you use IO around shy people, they become chatty. > > So you have to understand that the primary purpose of pheromones is not self effect but is a communicator that has some effects on others. So it may attract the same, but it doesn’t lead you to a situation. Hi guyz, i got attracted to this thread & have some thing to say, if you allow. As RAD said, i want to second that opinion. another way of saying it is the only thing common between 2 M’s( mones & menifestation 🙂) is your actions. or probably actions at right time. If you just naturally produced a phero signature that was like 2 drops of A314…then you would BE that alpha male type…mentally and emotionally. If you are that type, then your inner beliefs, expectations and perceptions of reality would be congruent with the thoughts and beliefs of a high status man. And you would subconsciously be manifesting a reality that supports this perception. When your inner belief’s & perceptions of your reality are strong inside, you start taking actions which are in sync with your thoughts viz. being trustworthy, high status, emotionally balanced etc. when u take actions towards your reality, u start seeing its happeneing, in turn your beliefs start growing stronger. this when u actually create your own realities. This is similar to mones, when u want to project a certain vibe your actions strenghten or weaken it. so when u are expecting certain behaviors fronm others & at least mentally prepred to observe some, u have created a desire inside. when u see that situation arising you take actions to progress towards menifestaion. I will take my own example here. I had troubled time in my relationship, & we broke up. so was having tough time overcoming it or letting it go. somehow i fell deep within that its meant to be, so never wanted to leave any stone unturned to make it work. i study a lot, use internet also for same purpose. i like perfumes so, my bf also got me one in early times of our relationship. i have instinctive inclination to help people. so when i was going thru this situation, i had mixed thoughts. i started looking for something that - what can help people to think & understand others in a better way, to get desired outcomes. whrn i was studing, i had 2 purpose in mind to either let go my f & concentrate more on my work to support, or find some help so that can make him look at me with a different perspective. i kept on reading stuff & suddenly it clicked that he used to really swoon over me when i was wearing my favrouite perfume. so i concluded that fragrenecs affect people in their thinking. so thats how finding & reading stuff on internet, i found this forum. & guess what - o said this is the answer to both of my intentions. when i rad more i immidiatly believed that i found this stuff for a reason & it will definitly work for me.(Read my intro) all this took about 2 months but i sure found a way out to be more close to menifestation of my reality. now with mones today with me, i am working on both of my intentions. may be i am saying too much. but this is a reality for me. i strongly believe i will achieve both. you may call its practical approach, subconcious menifestation of your realities or just a chance, or luck. the way you want to see it, makes all the difference to your actions. i am not saying you cant creat realities without these, but these really speed up the process & makes it easier too. In my own life before mones, i have created many such realities with these thoughts. at times miracles also. many people who know me say, i have some god gift or i am clairvoyant. i dont know, but i know i always visualise an image & take definite actions to move towards it. maximum times i reach there, to my own amusments at times.i have experienced it in relationships, work, finances, etc. The attraction and phero’s would both be present but neither as a cause nor effect of the other. Rather, both would be side effects of the reality of who you are at the core and how that radiates out to the world. I truly agree what RAD says above that - who you are & how you radiate it to the world, makes all the difference to your life & its realities. in the nutshell u are attracting what u want to attract. ur believes & mones will support u when u take right actions at right time. hope didn’t bore u guyz with my typical female ways of saying something.😃 Enough of that heavy stuff, i need to breath some air. i was almost dead silent.😮 hey RAD u look my type of man…😉 any chances 😃😛 wot u say boy??? ---
**Author:** ![jackslater](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jackslater/32/1476_2.png) [@jackslater](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jackslater)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/7 "2010-11-24T16:36:54Z")
> [@annawithmones](#): > > i kept on reading stuff & suddenly it clicked that he used to really swoon over me when i was wearing my favrouite perfume. so i concluded that fragrenecs affect people in their thinking. so thats how finding & reading stuff on internet, i found this forum. & guess what - o said this is the answer to both of my intentions. > > when i rad more i immidiatly believed that i found this stuff for a reason & it will definitly work for me.(Read my intro) all this took about 2 months but i sure found a way out to be more close to menifestation of my reality. > > now with mones today with me, i am working on both of my intentions. > > may be i am saying too much. but this is a reality for me. i strongly believe i will achieve both. > > you may call its practical approach, subconcious menifestation of your realities or just a chance, or luck. the way you want to see it, makes all the difference to your actions. > > i am not saying you cant creat realities without these, but these really speed up the process & makes it easier too. > > In my own life before mones, i have created many such realities with these thoughts. at times miracles also. many people who know me say, i have some god gift or i am clairvoyant. i dont know, but i know i always visualise an image & take definite actions to move towards it. maximum times i reach there, to my own amusments at times.i have experienced it in relationships, work, finances, etc. Correct me if I am wrong. Are you saying that you had intentions to improve yourself and situations with other, while simultaneously learning about the effects of perfume, which thus in turn lead you to the discovery of mones? And it all came about for a “reason”, which can maybe be interpreted as manifestation and/or like attraction? ---
**Author:** ![Gracious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gracious/32/2247_2.png) [@Gracious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gracious)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/8 "2010-11-25T02:32:36Z")
> [@jackslater](#): > > Correct me if I am wrong. > > Are you saying that you had intentions to improve yourself and situations with other, while simultaneously learning about the effects of perfume, which thus in turn lead you to the discovery of mones? > > And it all came about for a “reason”, which can maybe be interpreted as manifestation and/or like attraction? No dear, i mean to say that i had all the good intentions of improving my life space which we always share with others. always mind you can never be alone when you are in your life space. so with the intention of bringing about a good change. i was gaining knowledge on different subjects. like communication, relationships, science of attraction, philisophy and all. while i was doing this, one thing repeatdly kept on clicking my mind, i want to know, is there any way brain can be affected for its thinking part. and i got yes perfumes. so i tried reading on fragrences - arome therapies & all. how they destress & stuff. then google picked me up a tread. i remember first times i read little & closed it.few dasys later i agin was taken to pherotalk. when i saw the sniffing nose, then i got attracted & finally reached androtics. i knew a liitle about pheromones in animals but never ever in my dreams thought of someone can ever make human pheros. one must idetify the right clues, at right time. yes i had a reason/ can call it a objective to bring a change, i was acting on to bring change, i believed i will make it better, i saw that, didnt get disheartened all those no discovery days, kept on moving & i reached here, talking to u 🙂. can’t tell u how much i learned on the way here, i have total paradigm shift in certain places. thats my bonus 😃 & look i found new friends who are supporting me in my cause. what else u want. i started alone, but today i am not alone, all u guys are with me for help. isn’t it my own creation. alltogether, it brought a change. now will u tell me, 😃:o 😉🙄 isn’t it sooooooo intresting dear friend!!! ---
**Author:** ![jackslater](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jackslater/32/1476_2.png) [@jackslater](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jackslater)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/9 "2010-11-25T04:38:55Z")
> [@annawithmones](#): > > now will u tell me, 😃:o 😉🙄 isn’t it sooooooo intresting dear friend!!! Yes of course. My interest in mones also sparked from something similar to your story. Mainly I began several years ago to study body language, eyes cues, body shape of others and it’s meaning, NLP, etc…and somewhere in that mix, I found mones. It suited so well with everything I was learning. It wasn’t until recently that I discovered this site. And, to say the least, all other mones sites pale in comparison. And the timing in my life of this discovery, is nothing short of remarkable. For myself, the mones mixtures here seem to be that missing “key” or piece of the puzzle. The finishing touch. I have been curious all day to learn from anyone else here that is familiar with the subjects I mentioned above. I’ve read every book I could get my hands on, but perhaps some here have had experience and observation which lead to new information about how to read and/or communicate to others? For example… One thing that is common knowledge to body language experts, is the touching of the nose “negative or lie” signal. In other words, people tend to very often touch their noses when they are lieing or see something negative or something they dont understand. But, I observed that it is not necessarily always a touch; rather a sniffle or twitching of the nose. If anyone else has some observations, I’d be glad to read about them. Slater ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 4:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/10 "2010-11-25T04:55:46Z")
> [@annawithmones](#): > > hey RAD u look my type of man…😉 any chances 😃😛 > > wot u say boy??? …ya see guys?..think positive and good things happen…the law of attraction works! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 12:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/11 "2010-11-25T12:20:32Z")
I had to really stop and ponder this one. This is my personal opinion and is not based on pheromone science. > [@Rad](#): > > I think the two are in most respects separate issues. I do believe that **everything** is connected to the universal laws including pheromones. Pheromones alone however do not create attraction they communicate information. LOA alone doesn’t create attraction. That is why so many people have trouble with it. They forgot to consider the 11 or so other universal laws. So while I agree with Rad pheromones are not a universal law, that makes them a separate issue. However since everything is part of the other universal laws like the law of cause and effect, Karma, Law of relativity then there is a connection between the two. > [@Josie](#): > > So this is what I think about the law of attraction and pheromones. Like attracts like correct? So if you put on A314 you would attract alpha type people. A314 is known to attract alpha females. A314 also attracts Beta females, they just aren’t always as bold. IO is used as an opener to lubricate verbal communication. It would make sense that IO would attract naturally chatty people right? Except that when you use IO around shy people, they become chatty. I do think both Anna and Rad explained the difference very well but in doing so they pointed out the connection as well and that was the question. Are they connected ? The law of attraction works with energy. Everything is made of of energy vibrating at different frequencies. Like a radio station. Your thoughts have a vibration which has been scientifically proven. What you believe/think you vibrate out in wave lengths and so energy (objects, situations, people) that vibrate at the same frequency align with your frequency. Pheromone communicate a feeling that then trigger an emotion chemically. The chemical signal then triggers thought as you react to the emotion. So theoretical if something like A314 triggers an emotion in you that your a powerful alpha male then you will vibrate that emotion out. This is were the law of polarity comes in… However wearing pheromone do not automatically make you believe your the alpha male. They dont make you think differently. They bring up a emotion and what you do with that emotion is up to how you think. The law of polarity states that everything is on a continuum and has an opposite. We can suppress and transform undesirable thoughts by concentrating on the opposite pole. If your wearing A314 and still thinking your a Beta thats two opposing polarities. This is where congruence comes in. Everyone is not congruent on the same level though. You have people with all different thought vibrations wearing the product. Your intentions have a direct effect on pheromones. The ones you produce and the ones you choose to wear. While LOA and Pheromones are two separate tools they can and do work parallel to each other to increase results or decrease results. > [@jackslater](#): > > Mainly I began several years ago to study body language, eyes cues, body shape of others and it’s meaning, NLP, etc…and somewhere in that mix, I found mones. It suited so well with everything I was learning. All related because they fall under forms of communication. Your correct in saying they suit each other well. Its like pieces of one great puzzle. Many pheromone users are interested and study all the forms of communication and interaction. BL, NLP, Paralinguistics, Proxemics, Haptics, physiognomy they are all related and its my opinion pheromones while working differently have there place and fit nicely. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 1:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/12 "2010-11-25T13:03:40Z")
Listen to Tish and Radman and you will become an expert on this stuff ---
**Author:** ![forynav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@forynav](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/forynav)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/13 "2010-11-25T18:15:46Z")
LoA means you are on this site because you are on the way to something that you have desired. 🙂 It encompasses everything. Things fall in place, if you make the space. ---
**Author:** ![Gracious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gracious/32/2247_2.png) [@Gracious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gracious)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/14 "2010-11-25T19:25:17Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > …ya see guys?..think positive and good things happen…the law of attraction works! 😃 so RAD when we agree, law of attraction works when we make room. pls make some some room for me… so i can step in.😛 now u know what would you do with this big boobbbyyyyyy girl 😃😃😃😃😃😉. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/15 "2010-11-25T19:32:30Z")
And how much room should I make? ---
**Author:** ![Gracious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gracious/32/2247_2.png) [@Gracious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gracious)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/16 "2010-11-26T02:24:51Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > And how much room should I make? 5feet 3 inches, 28 inches circle of the arms. just little to start with. rrest would u calculate, i am sure.😃😛😛😛😛😛 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 6:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/17 "2010-11-26T06:30:08Z")
> [@annawithmones](#): > > 5feet 3 inches, 28 inches circle of the arms. just little to start with. rrest would u calculate, i am sure.😃😛😛😛😛😛 which part should I CALCULATE 😉 Oh you mean that… you naughty… lol ---
**Author:** ![Gracious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gracious/32/2247_2.png) [@Gracious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gracious)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/18 "2010-11-26T14:16:53Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > which part should I CALCULATE > Oh you mean that… you naughty… lol i will kill u… for this u mischivious impish naughty kat. 😃😛 dont wink i am not looking…😃 and btw i asked RAD not u 😛😛😉🙄 he he he ha ha ha ho ho ho. never mind keep on trying babe 😛 yuuuuhhhhuuuuu!!! ---
**Author:** ![Gracious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gracious/32/2247_2.png) [@Gracious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gracious)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/19 "2010-11-26T19:37:19Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I had to really stop and ponder this one. This is my personal opinion and is not based on pheromone science. > > I do believe that **everything** is connected to the universal laws including pheromones. Pheromones alone however do not create attraction they communicate information. LOA alone doesn’t create attraction. That is why so many people have trouble with it. They forgot to consider the 11 or so other universal laws. So while I agree with Rad pheromones are not a universal law, that makes them a separate issue. However since everything is part of the other universal laws like the law of cause and effect, Karma, Law of relativity then there is a connection between the two. > > I do think both Anna and Rad explained the difference very well but in doing so they pointed out the connection as well and that was the question. Are they connected ? > > The law of attraction works with energy. Everything is made of of energy vibrating at different frequencies. Like a radio station. Your thoughts have a vibration which has been scientifically proven. What you believe/think you vibrate out in wave lengths and so energy (objects, situations, people) that vibrate at the same frequency align with your frequency. > > Pheromone communicate a feeling that then trigger an emotion chemically. The chemical signal then triggers thought as you react to the emotion. So theoretical if something like A314 triggers an emotion in you that your a powerful alpha male then you will vibrate that emotion out. > > This is were the law of polarity comes in… > > However wearing pheromone do not automatically make you believe your the alpha male. They dont make you think differently. They bring up a emotion and what you do with that emotion is up to how you think. > > The law of polarity states that everything is on a continuum and has an opposite. We can suppress and transform undesirable thoughts by concentrating on the opposite pole. > > If your wearing A314 and still thinking your a Beta thats two opposing polarities. This is where congruence comes in. Everyone is not congruent on the same level though. You have people with all different thought vibrations wearing the product. > > Your intentions have a direct effect on pheromones. The ones you produce and the ones you choose to wear. While LOA and Pheromones are two separate tools they can and do work parallel to each other to increase results or decrease results. > > All related because they fall under forms of communication. Your correct in saying they suit each other well. Its like pieces of one great puzzle. Many pheromone users are interested and study all the forms of communication and interaction. > > BL, NLP, Paralinguistics, Proxemics, Haptics, physiognomy they are all related and its my opinion pheromones while working differently have there place and fit nicely. > > Tisha i read something that is not there now.. may be you edited it. Hey Tish, Adopt me. I guess, whom u r going to pass all ur witchcraft??? On serious notes, can u tell me how do you play with the energy in your life. Want to listen to your real life experiences. Btw I too read the secret. But manifestations happened to me ever since I was a child. Have grown up with such occurrences ever since. At times I used to get uneasy when something bad happened, even deaths. I used to undergo very blank & thinking modes; how I got to know about it before hand, or did I create that. I had huge losses, which I recognized will happen- of lives, friends, relationships, money. I have major gains as well which again I recognize will happen – of lives, money, relationships, work life etc. I never discussed that with anybody in family. I let know my mom & Dad about it only some years back. I strongly believe in energy & mind waves. At times it makes me very uncomfortable when I sense something’s going to happen & no way I can stop it. Put some light on it. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511/20 "2010-11-27T01:20:34Z")
> [@](#): > > i read something that is not there now.. may be you edited it. I didnt edit anything I just fixed some spelling. Maybe it was something from another thread. What was it about ? > [@](#): > > whom u r going to pass all ur witchcraft??? My youngest son. He is drawn to it and naturally very intuitive. I never read the secret. I did see the video but in my opinion it was very misleading because it was incomplete when it comes to energy. You cant just think things and they will happen if you could Johnny Depp would be sitting next to me. 😃 The secret is a good starting point but it doesn’t take people into the law deep enough. That’s why you see so many people saying its bull or just getting so so results. > [@](#): > > But manifestations happened to me ever since I was a child. Have grown up with such occurrences ever since. At times I used to get uneasy when something bad happened, even deaths. I used to undergo very blank & thinking modes; how I got to know about it before hand, or did I create that. I had huge losses, which I recognized will happen- of lives, friends, relationships, money. I have major gains as well which again I recognize will happen – of lives, money, relationships, work life etc. I never discussed that with anybody in family. I let know my mom & Dad about it only some years back. > > I strongly believe in energy & mind waves. What do you mean by “as a child I manifested things” ? The way you wrote it in your post is that you would know things before they happened. That’s not manifesting thats sensing. Your not creating it you can sense the energy and its direction. You can sense what the energy is manifesting into. But its not your energy. That is psychic. How do you sense it. Do you see it, hear it, feel it or just know it ? That’s the first thing you need to determine. > [@](#): > > At times it makes me very uncomfortable when I sense something’s going to happen & no way I can stop it. You cant stop it its not your energy to stop unless your seeing things that pertain directly to you. Then its easy to stop and change the direction or frequency of the energy. Well at least its easy for me LOL. It takes practice though. That doesn’t mean nothing bad ever will happen either. For instance if your going on a plane ride and you have a strong feeling ( not fear) it will crash and everyone on it will die you cant stop it from crashing. You can tell people or not get on the plane but its there free will to fly or not. You didnt create it though. I know thats hard to except believe me. My father died in a accident last November. I knew before hand and I could not stop it even though I tried. Now lets go back to the radio example. Your like the radio. Your taking in the wave and transcribing them into a picture, feeling or knowing. When you manifest you create the wave and let it go. Its two different things. Tisha [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-and-the-law-of-attraction/43511.md?page=2)