# Mones, fallout and periods of no contact.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 17, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-fallout-and-periods-of-no-contact/65350 "2015-12-17T19:07:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-fallout-and-periods-of-no-contact/65350/21 "2015-12-23T01:21:32Z")
Bid her a good, hearty Christmas and New Year - then move-on and do some testing. If she does get back to you, fine - deal with it then but don’t overthink the situation any more and don’t wait around for her - you now have other avenues to explore! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Stud\_Muffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@Stud\_Muffin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stud_Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-fallout-and-periods-of-no-contact/65350/22 "2015-12-26T20:35:19Z")
Ok, so I am gonna start using the A314, IH, P74 mix with this woman, starting next time I see her and I will also add in 1 or 2 sprays of TUTH, most likely 2 sprays as she is 34!? I am just going to order some more supplies so I have enough to see this through long term, as I am also going to be using this mix for most of my social activities, in the new year too. I am also thinking of getting some [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and I was wondering will this dilute the mix too much or add any benefit or is it best to leave it out as it would distract from fallout? As I noticed the last few times she did drink some alcohol and she did joke about needing more drinks to feel comfortable enough to sleep with me LOL, to which she also said about alcohol being a dis-inhibitor… P83 right? It it weird as time passes I remember more things from the time spend with her. Anyway, another thing I want clarity on just to be sure once and for all is … When she contacts me, is it still cool for me to arrange a meet OR should I just make small talk and leave contact to the minimal and wait until she gets in contact to arrange a meet with me? So basically, say she text me without mentioning meeting up, I reply without mentioning meeting up, making small talk and then go dark and keep doing this, until she text me about meeting up? As, every time I have left it and she got in contact with me and I mentioned meeting up she always made time for me to actually meet up…(I am seeing this as a positive thing to get more exposure to my signature, enough to get her to invest more with me) And my mixes have been when meeting her are twice with a314, ammo, IS and once with A314, AMMO, IH, IS, TUTH… I am wondering If I start this new fallout mix with her (A314, IH, P74) am I starting from the complete beginning again or will the A314 from the other times still have a cumulative effect going towards this new ‘‘fallout’’ mix that I will be using? ---
**Author:** ![Smellymen2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Smellymen2002](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellymen2002)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-fallout-and-periods-of-no-contact/65350/23 "2015-12-26T23:38:24Z")
> [@Stud\_Muffin](#): > > Ok, so I am gonna start using the A314, IH, P74 mix with this woman, starting next time I see her and I will also add in 1 or 2 sprays of TUTH, most likely 2 sprays as she is 34!? > > I am just going to order some more supplies so I have enough to see this through long term, as I am also going to be using this mix for most of my social activities, in the new year too. > > I am also thinking of getting some P83 and I was wondering will this dilute the mix too much or add any benefit or is it best to leave it out as it would distract from fallout? > > As I noticed the last few times she did drink some alcohol and she did joke about needing more drinks to feel comfortable enough to sleep with me LOL, to which she also said about alcohol being a dis-inhibitor… P83 right? > > It it weird as time passes I remember more things from the time spend with her. > > Anyway, another thing I want clarity on just to be sure once and for all is … > > When she contacts me, is it still cool for me to arrange a meet OR should I just make small talk and leave contact to the minimal and wait until she gets in contact to arrange a meet with me? > > So basically, say she text me without mentioning meeting up, I reply without mentioning meeting up, making small talk and then go dark and keep doing this, until she text me about meeting up? > > As, every time I have left it and she got in contact with me and I mentioned meeting up she always made time for me to actually meet up…(I am seeing this as a positive thing to get more exposure to my signature, enough to get her to invest more with me) > > And my mixes have been when meeting her are twice with a314, ammo, IS and once with A314, AMMO, IH, IS, TUTH… I am wondering If I start this new fallout mix with her (A314, IH, P74) am I starting from the complete beginning again or will the A314 from the other times still have a cumulative effect going towards this new ‘‘fallout’’ mix that I will be using? If it isn’t broke don’t fix it. Keep up with the contact black outs it will make her want you more. As for a signature keep it simple, you don’t want to be throwin off too many signals. I also do not think you will be starting at the beginning with a new sig that you were talking about. I think since you have worn the same products around her you should be good. ---
**Author:** ![Stud\_Muffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@Stud\_Muffin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stud_Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2015, 10:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-fallout-and-periods-of-no-contact/65350/24 "2015-12-27T10:27:50Z")
Ok so I will leave out the P83 and stick to just A314, IH, [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) and TUTH. Simple. I am fine with the no contact it just seems like since I have been making less contact so has she… makes we wonder if she is doing the same lol. I am quessing with persistence the scales will flip in my favour eventually… and she will invest more because of my no contact? I am not just trying to understand only for this woman but for all of the future ones too. As she is 34 she is going to be more clued up conpared to girls in their twenties and all her partners have been older then her like late 30’s, 40’s …if that makes much difference. ---
**Author:** ![Smellymen2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Smellymen2002](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellymen2002)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-fallout-and-periods-of-no-contact/65350/25 "2015-12-27T15:09:36Z")
> [@Stud\_Muffin](#): > > Ok so I will leave out the P83 and stick to just A314, IH, P74 and TUTH. Simple. > > I am fine with the no contact it just seems like since I have been making less contact so has she… makes we wonder if she is doing the same lol. I am quessing with persistence the scales will flip in my favour eventually… and she will invest more because of my no contact? > > I am not just trying to understand only for this woman but for all of the future ones too. > > As she is 34 she is going to be more clued up conpared to girls in their twenties and all her partners have been older then her like late 30’s, 40’s …if that makes much difference. The mix you have sounds good leave out the TUTH until you get in the bedroom. This will let her know you are not just after one thing. This will up your value in her eyes. I think that the scales will push for you in time. Most women are like cats the more attenion you pay them, the less they value it. You have to stand firm and let yourself know that your time is valuable,'remember you are the prize. If you really value her take your time. You have to remember she just got out of a relationship, I doubt she would be looking for one so soon. A thing I noticed was you said she was in her 30’s. I love that age because most women know what they want and they don’t play many as near mindgames as the ones in there 20’s. Plus they are more independent as well, so how do you have a girl who is independent value you? The answer is to be independent yourself. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-fallout-and-periods-of-no-contact/65350/26 "2015-12-27T17:59:46Z")
That’s a good mix to start with and if there is any underlying interest/attraction, it will help focus it on you. 🙂 The A314/IH/[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) is your base mix and you need to endeavour to wear that every time you see her for the forseeable future. Dosing the TUTH is more tricky, although the base mix is also good balanced moderation, so it won’t give you the “walking dribbling hardon” vibe around her unless you really overdo it - and at 34, most women are comfortable with a reasonable amount of None, so a couple of sprays should be fine in normal social/friendly interaction. You would go down a bit or leave-out TUTH at work or in very polite/formal company but when things begin to unravel in all the right ways, and things get more fun/uninhibited/determinedly sexy - eg clups/parties/“playtime” at home etc, then you may find that she will respond well to an even higher dose - So whilst your base mix is a good long-lasting one, do carry a togo of TUTH with you and transition to a more overtly sexual mix as time goes-on and if you are getting the right sort of IOIs. This is also where P83 becomes very valuable. Whilst it won’t add anything as far as fallout goes all by itself, it isn’t much of a moderating phero so it won’t dilute your mix and very importantly P83 can help a developing fallout express themselves more easily/freely when the time/situation is right, usually after several exposures. So whilst you probably shouldn’t regard it as part of your base mix, the time to add it is when things get uninhibited and physical contact becomes easier/more natural - and by the time you start getting hot and sweaty in a club, or back-home, you could easily be using it to good effect. 🙂 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-fallout-and-periods-of-no-contact/65350.md?page=1)