# mones in heat PLEASE HELP!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 22, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-in-heat-please-help/57623 "2012-12-22T21:48:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-in-heat-please-help/57623/1 "2012-12-22T21:48:58Z")
i accidentally left my bottle in the heat,it was mild hot on that day and wondering if the juice is still good.so i tested it out by applied 3 sprays(pheromax)and i felt so drowsy,aggressive with a mild headache.is that mean the mones are still ok? because these are the signs of none OD right? please share some thoughts people thanx ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2012, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-in-heat-please-help/57623/2 "2012-12-22T21:55:12Z")
Mones are pretty resilliant and will withstand very hot conditions no problem. They should be fine. Some scent components are more volatile though and can suffer at lower temperatures but it should still be pretty effective diffusers. Aggressive is a potential warning of too much none but not drowsy or headache - I have found too much nols or TAA/IS can leave me feeling a bit tired drained and headachy after a few hours when worn at higher doses and of course headaches can often be a bad reaction to scent components. Personally I have to watch FF21 for this but I have no idea bout Pheromax. ---
**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2012, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-in-heat-please-help/57623/3 "2012-12-23T00:48:21Z")
thanx mobocaster! what a relief you seem to know alot about mones:)i didn’t know that too much nol can make you tired,i learn something new everyday.which AD instant line product is good for social like SOE? im also looking for a friendly social product contain only rone and nol ps.the new formula pheromax 2mg A1,1.8 none and 1.2 nol works great and also work on asian girls 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-in-heat-please-help/57623/4 "2012-12-23T01:28:02Z")
What do you mean by leaving them out in the heat ? Did you leave them in an environment that can get as hot as 130 to 140 degrees, like in a car in the summer ? Was it just for the day or an extended period of time. If it was just a day or two they should be fine. If its just hot then you would experience some evap but it wont really ruin the mones. Sunlight is another issue. I am not sure if Pheromax comes in the light block bottle. > [@](#): > > i felt so drowsy,aggressive with a mild headache.is that mean the mones are still ok? because these are the signs of none OD right? No those are not signs of an anone OD. I dont feel thats related to mones at all. Maybe you were a little dehydrated. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-in-heat-please-help/57623/5 "2012-12-23T02:18:10Z")
i leave the bottle inside the box and did not contact with sunlight.not in the car just outside of the house and it was 40C which is 104F on that day and it was only for 1 day.so the juice should be ok right? thanx for the reply tisha:)for all the guys out there wondering about the effectiveness of PM,yes the product work like charm if you’re looking for a social product with abit of sexual hit.but if you’re thinking about mixing social+heavy none products,i wouldn’t recommend PM because it contain 1.8 mg none and this product is very concentrated ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2012, 8:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-in-heat-please-help/57623/6 "2012-12-23T08:51:18Z")
> [@leon333](#): > > which AD instant line product is good for social like SOE? im also looking for a friendly social product contain only rone and nols IO is probably the nearest to SOE, or maybe IO and a small amount of IG. IO is approx 70/30 Alphanol/Betanol, which makes it a little more bright/bubbly compared to SOE which is 80/20 Alphanol/Androsterone and IO’s alcohol base will make it a bit more freely diffusing and higher impact, as well as easier to dose. Dosing SOE reliably and effectively has been one of the great challenges of phero use that still evades me - When it works, brilliant but it often flls short of the mark. Some IG in there would help to restore the SOE balance and yes that will be good around Asians but very often, I don’t feel the need to use it alongside IO - Which TBH I mainly use to moderate overt none products like TUTH or NPA. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2012, 9:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-in-heat-please-help/57623/7 "2012-12-23T09:00:03Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > No those are not signs of an anone OD. I dont feel thats related to mones at all. Maybe you were a little dehydrated. > > Tisha Tisha - Whilst I agree with the rest, increased aggression/cockyness/physical/emotional forwardness - call it whatever you will is associated with too much none. In fact it can be one reason why many of us use the more in your face none products like IJ, TUTH etc - and being aware of this self effect and managing/channeling it in a positive manner is often very useful indeed. Although the dose involved does seem rather small but self effects like this are often most obvious the first few times someone uses a product, before they get used to it/learn how to manage/dose it better. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-in-heat-please-help/57623/8 "2012-12-23T12:43:15Z")
yea im not a fan of oil products.i dont wana wait for 40 minutes for my targets to get hit by the mones,plus the effect is subtle and mellow.i prefer alcohol sprays with freely diffusing and hit them harder 4-6 hours is not bad and i can always reapply..thanx people ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-in-heat-please-help/57623/9 "2012-12-24T01:57:52Z")
> [@](#): > > Tisha - Whilst I agree with the rest, increased aggression/cockyness/physical/emotional forwardness - call it whatever you will is associated with too much none. In fact it can be one reason why many of us use the more in your face none products like [IJ](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) , [TUTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) etc - and being aware of this self effect and managing/channeling it in a positive manner is often very useful indeed. Men are really to quick to jump to suspecting an Anone OD. IJ is one thing because its high in anone per spray already. TUTH is low and so is AMMO. Harris tested OD ranges. This is why they suggest in the product description page AMMO … “Most users have found about 3 sprays of Ammunition to be ideal. Up to 8 sprays per use are possible without using too much [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/)” TUTH… 1 to 4 sprays Of course long time users always suggest starting with 1 spray with every product. Men are judging if they are at dosage by the reaction of other men. That aggressiveness is an indication that your near dosage not that your ODing. An anone OD produces violance or ghosting. The increased aggression/cockyness/physical/emotional forwardness is a normal male reaction to men who are there territory and are compition. Men with naturally higher anone signatures experience this behavoir all the time from other males but are conditioned to deal with it. I think men often see this behavoir and stop short or reaching their optimal dosage. Tisha