# Mones+Me=Nada **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 16, 2010, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359 "2010-11-16T23:59:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LoveDocta](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lovedocta/32/993_2.png) [@LoveDocta](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LoveDocta)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/1 "2010-11-16T23:59:25Z")
hey guys irecently bought mones and so far i’ve expirienced nothing no hits from girls or anything not even self effects so i was thinking about returning it and getting a stronger dose or should i get something else current mones IS-dindnt feel a thing people around me felt the same no change IJ-planning to try tomorrow IO-i didnt expirience much from this max was 2 sprays i plan to retry soon IH- went up to 4 sprays and didnt really see much difference if any at all IG went up to 4 sprays same as ih no noticeable affects AMMO- started from 1 spray during morning and slowly increased to see if i would get results and i went up to 6 sprays with no results TUTH- havent tried yet yea so bottom line i really would like to find something that worksbut so far i’ve had no results and i’ve tried a couple mixes with no results either. so now im just trying to figure out if i should return them and get something else or what? please someone help me out and sorry for errors im in a rush here ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/2 "2010-11-17T00:12:33Z")
> [@LoveDocta](#): > > hey guys irecently bought mones and so far i’ve expirienced nothing no hits from girls or anything not even self effects so i was thinking about returning it and getting a stronger dose or should i get something else > > current mones > IS-dindnt feel a thing people around me felt the same no change > IJ-planning to try tomorrow > IO-i didnt expirience much from this max was 2 sprays i plan to retry soon > IH- went up to 4 sprays and didnt really see much difference if any at all > IG went up to 4 sprays same as ih no noticeable affects > AMMO- started from 1 spray during morning and slowly increased to see if i would get results and i went up to 6 sprays with no results > TUTH- havent tried yet > > yea so bottom line i really would like to find something that worksbut so far i’ve had no results and i’ve tried a couple mixes with no results either. > > so now im just trying to figure out if i should return them and get something else or what? > > please someone help me out > > and sorry for errors im in a rush here Hiya lovedocta! You have (2) effects to look at… your self effects and effects on others… Do you get any SELF effects? IJ will be the one for over the top effects, but really, depends on the environment and your target audience. if you use that in church, you will likely NOT see any effects… Can you read through the link on my sig below by Tisha on how you can tell what are hits? Compare those suggestions with what your seeing… ---
**Author:** ![p8ntman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7993a0/32.png) [@p8ntman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/p8ntman)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/3 "2010-11-17T00:25:59Z")
I suggest you look at Tisha’s post its in 1Alpha’s sig and hits dont have to be straight out flirting most “hits” I get are smiles or maybe a slight bit of staring you have to really notice them and its not easy I already am a semi-master at body language and on a daily basis test my self by observing others. And for IS, IO, IH their effects may not be directed to you but more or less the people around you. Hopefully you will not give up and best of luck if you dont. Stay frosty, P8ntman ---
**Author:** ![LoveDocta](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lovedocta/32/993_2.png) [@LoveDocta](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LoveDocta)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 12:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/4 "2010-11-17T00:28:04Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > Hiya lovedocta! You have (2) effects to look at… your self effects and effects on others… > > Do you get any SELF effects? > > IJ will be the one for over the top effects, but really, depends on the environment and your target audience. if you use that in church, you will likely NOT see any effects… > > Can you read through the link on my sig below by Tisha on how you can tell what are hits? Compare those suggestions with what your seeing… hey 1alpha i looked at the post and im not getting any of those responses when i wear my mones compared to when i didn’t. and im using these mones at my highschool,btw i had another question after reading some post i noticed how some people say people around them could smell it and stuff when i put on my mones i can only smell it for a little bit, so i was wondering if it shold be a stronger smell in order for it to work or if its because now that its winter my body doesn’t seem to be generating as much body heat as it did in the summer so now these mones aren’t diffusing properly in order for others to smell it p.s. any recommendation on how what i should wear with IJ im thinking of wearing it plain and if i dont seem to get results by 2nd pd i might add a spray of IG ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/5 "2010-11-17T00:34:00Z")
> [@LoveDocta](#): > > hey 1alpha i looked at the post and im not getting any of those responses when i wear my mones compared to when i didn’t. > > and im using these mones at my highschool,btw i had another question after reading some post i noticed how some people say people around them could smell it and stuff when i put on my mones i can only smell it for a little bit, so i was wondering if it shold be a stronger smell in order for it to work or if its because now that its winter my body doesn’t seem to be generating as much body heat as it did in the summer so now these mones aren’t diffusing properly in order for others to smell it > > p.s. any recommendation on how what i should wear with IJ im thinking of wearing it plain and if i dont seem to get results by 2nd pd i might add a spray of IG If your outside in the cold, you’ll have a tough time of having your mones waif… I’m sure others that are in a colder climate like yours can chime in, as I’m in SoCal and freezing to me is 55 degrees F. 😃 Though, when indoors, without winter jackets and glove, in a classroom, can see it being ok to use. How about in a car, with the mones on your neck or hair, that is if they are exposed… ---
**Author:** ![LoveDocta](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lovedocta/32/993_2.png) [@LoveDocta](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LoveDocta)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/6 "2010-11-17T00:36:28Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > If your outside in the cold, you’ll have a tough time of having your mones waif… > > I’m sure others that are in a colder climate like your can chime in, as I’m in SoCal and freezing to me is 55 degrees F. 😃 > > Though, when indoors, without winter jackets and glove, in a classroom, can see it being ok to use. How about in a car, with the mones on your neck or hair, that is if they are exposed… have’nt tried putting it on in a car dont want it to smell especially since its new lol okay so i should try spraying the mones where there is alot of body heat? ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/7 "2010-11-17T02:07:12Z")
Hey man sorry to hear that. I’m glad you said something. So you are in highschool? Is that where you are testing? I’m assuming that you are testing around people that already know u. That may take some time. I am also assuming that you didn’t do the sweet spot test that Steve wrote based on what you posted here. I suggest that you do that and start with IO. Watch for silliness from girls. ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 2:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/8 "2010-11-17T02:38:20Z")
LoveDocta! Noble here! Like you, I didn’t experience results from people that already knew me at first either. Keep it going for a week or two, and you’ll start getting it, I promise. A month, definitely. Hey, I’m only a week in, and you’ve read what I’ve already got going on: > [@Creating the Prince Charming Mix](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/creating-the-prince-charming-mix/43308): > > Sex: Male Age: just turned 18 Primary Test Locations: high school, dinner parties, the mall, parks I am going to attempt to create the perfect mix of products for younger men such as myself. Note that this is not going to be aimed at being your basic sexual attractant. It’ll be much more. It should be romance! Dancing in the rain, eating strawberries in the park, really connecting on a deep level. It should make you what every girl says she wants. (note: congruency is definitely something i… I mean, that’s just after seven days! At any rate, though, day 1-4 is going to be tough. I can only imagine that people that know you would be confused. And they _should be_. Imagine one of your casual female friends walking into class one day and all of a sudden she’s sexier than Natalie Portman. You can’t put your finger on what it is, but you’re attracted. But will you trust it? Probably not. But, over time, if this girl keeps it up, you’ll start to naturally associate that [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) signature with her, and perhaps even fall in love. Who wouldn’t? This is what your peers are experiencing. KEEP IT UP. ---
**Author:** ![LoveDocta](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lovedocta/32/993_2.png) [@LoveDocta](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LoveDocta)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/9 "2010-11-17T03:00:54Z")
alright guys i guess yall are right abouth the friend thing so i’ll keep trying and im not planning on giving up yet its just that i have about $30 now and was trying to decide wether or not i should return what i have now and put the money all towards something else like A314 or [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). and before i give up i plan to try every product androtic has to offer 😃 then and only then will i sadly give up on these mones and try something else like Essence Of Woman or Pherlure dunno yet ---
**Author:** ![LoveDocta](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lovedocta/32/993_2.png) [@LoveDocta](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LoveDocta)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/10 "2010-11-17T03:06:00Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > Hey man sorry to hear that. I’m glad you said something. So you are in highschool? Is that where you are testing? > > I’m assuming that you are testing around people that already know u. That may take some time. I am also assuming that you didn’t do the sweet spot test that Steve wrote based on what you posted here. I suggest that you do that and start with IO. Watch for silliness from girls. okay i’ll start that next week i already did the sweet spot testing [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and didnt get results but im willing to retry 😃 “start with IO. Watch for silliness from girls” btw do you know any other key changes i should see with girls from other products like IJ IH AMMO IG IS TUTH ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 3:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/11 "2010-11-17T03:23:48Z")
> [@LoveDocta](#): > > btw do you know any other key changes i should see with girls from other products like > > IJ > IH > AMMO > IG > IS > TUTH I can help with IG, definitely. That one is my strong suit, apparently. Biggest change for me came from that one. IG sends out a signal that you’re mature, with a masculine warmth. Girls really seem to like this one, especially at our age. It sets you apart from the other boys making fart jokes. ---
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/12 "2010-11-17T03:41:12Z")
I have 1 word for you, Congruency…Figure that out and you’ll be in the clutch. Remember that these are magical love potions. YOU sir need to put some action behind it. I am not going to lie I bought TUTH back in July and I thought like a fool that girls would be dropping their panties for me, well nope, didnt happen. I then began to research more and figure out what I wanted and became congruent, actions with signature. You won’t see affects on people you live with most likely like mom or dad (if you do). But ones like gf or bff WILL happen, just takes time. For me personally my gf reacted Amazingly to it her first time, my god I finally I felt I was in control of our relationship the first time in years! Girls at class I can have wrapped around my finger. I haven’t done much testing with my closer friends because they are all alway but I bet I will see changes in their actions to me. Just stay positive, figure out what you are aiming and become congruent with that. Best of luck! Tea ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/13 "2010-11-17T03:59:49Z")
Samuraitea makes a FANTASTIC point, LoveDocta. You need to set an image of yourself that you’re going for, put on what products you think would help that particular character be even better, and act accordingly. Reminds me of a quote I heard once. I don’t remember who it was, but it’s really good: “Act as if, and it shall be.” Congruency has amplified my results tenfold. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 4:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/14 "2010-11-17T04:56:21Z")
> [@LoveDocta](#): > > alright guys i guess yall are right abouth the friend thing so i’ll keep trying and im not planning on giving up yet its just that i have about $30 now and was trying to decide wether or not i should return what i have now and put the money all towards something else like A314 or P83. > > and before i give up i plan to try every product androtic has to offer 😃 > then and only then will i sadly give up on these mones and try something else like Essence Of Woman or Pherlure dunno yet My advice stay away from A314 and any putatives until you get a handle on the consumer line. I’ve seen a few posts from you so I assume you’ve been lurking around the boards long enough to catch a thread or two about congruence. Do a search for a topic I did called Congruence and the Consumer line. The thing to realize is that mones are things we produce naturally to communicate information about ourselves. Ideally these are attractive qualities, but people that know you will have their own preconceived notions about you and it will take a lot of congruence over an extended period of time for them to change their point of view. Mones just make it easier for them to accept it. Look at it like this. Take three shy guys that want to be seen as more alpha. Guy #1 starts wearing A314 and waits to see what happens. What will happen is the occasional stranger may see him as being a possible alpha type but that impression will be dismissed when his behavior shows otherwise. Guy #2 says “screw the mones” and just starts acting alpha. He makes an effort to carry himself and act assertively and with more confidence. He’s probably got a good shot of it working, strangers should accept his image within a short time of talking to him, but the people that have grown comfortable with him categorized as a beta in their mind may resist his attempts at change. They might ridicule him for being fake or pretending to be “all that” and something he’s not. They may eventually come around but it will be hard and takes a lot more time and effort on his part than it actually has to. Then we get to Guy#3 He uses both. He makes an effort to change his behaviors and really tries to act Alpha. But he also compliments his new behavior with A314. As long as he acts congruent with that signal strangers accept it almost immediately. Friends and people he knows may take a little longer but they get a sense of something being genuinely different about him. They get a feeling that he isn’t being fake, he’s changed and this is who he really is now. Not saying you should switch to A314, it actually is a harder product to work with imo, but just as an example of how your behavior and your phero signal work together. Also consider the environment, in the middle of class, not much will happen. Women are subtle creatures and you may very well be getting some looks but little else since it’s not an appropriate time. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 5:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/15 "2010-11-17T05:47:00Z")
> [@LoveDocta](#): > > hey guys irecently bought mones and so far i’ve expirienced nothing no hits from girls or anything not even self effects so i was thinking about returning it and getting a stronger dose or should i get something else > > current mones > IS-dindnt feel a thing people around me felt the same no change > IJ-planning to try tomorrow > IO-i didnt expirience much from this max was 2 sprays i plan to retry soon > IH- went up to 4 sprays and didnt really see much difference if any at all > IG went up to 4 sprays same as ih no noticeable affects > AMMO- started from 1 spray during morning and slowly increased to see if i would get results and i went up to 6 sprays with no results > TUTH- havent tried yet > > yea so bottom line i really would like to find something that worksbut so far i’ve had no results and i’ve tried a couple mixes with no results either. > > so now im just trying to figure out if i should return them and get something else or what? > > please someone help me out > > and sorry for errors im in a rush here Ok first let me ask what were your expectations ? I ask this because sometimes those get in the way of seeing clearly whats occurring. Pheromones are just one part of communication and signaling attractiveness. I think a lot of people have the misconception that a bottle of mones is all you need. Communicating attractiveness requires all of the senses not just your olfactory senses. Sure having a bottle of pheromones to strengthen the olfactory response and attraction, it gives you a edge but its still one part of a whole. Next lets cover how you carry yourself. Congruency. A lot of people will say if I have to act different then its not the mones but we are not telling you to act totally different its a subtle change. Sometimes the self effects of pheromones bring about that subtle change in how you act without even thinking about it but not everyone gets self effects so sometimes it requires a little conscious thought. Lets use IO as a example. Suppose your at a party and you have it on. What do you do ? Do you stand over in the corner by yourself or with a friend waiting for people to react to it ? Is your body language and facial expressions saying I am a open comfortable approachable person or is it saying I am uncomfortable nervous and closed ? Its just not the body language of others you need to learn to read you need to be able to read your own. I just gave this “assignment” over in the ladies section in the Sick of being cute thread but it will work for you in this situation as well. Google body language and find a site that describes it. There are a lot of them. I think I gave a link in the “how do you know if I am getting hits” thread in the stickies in the women’s section. Now go stand in the mirror and observe how you stand, move, facial expressions and how you carry yourself. Now pick a few different vibes you want to portray and convey them just using body language in the mirror. Match them to your [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). A314…strong confident respected alpha. Ammo … sexy confident cool fun TUTH … Sexy strong aggressive IO … open comfortable friendly Etc Etc… The visual aspects of attraction… This will vary because different people are attracted to different “looks” but there is one thing all the different looks have in common. Hygiene and the pride you take in how you look. This doesn’t mean you have to wear expensive cloths or look like Brad Pitt. Just be the best visual LoveDocta you can be. If you look sloppy, like you didnt wash your face or comb your hair. If your cloths are all rumpled like you pulled them out of a hamper. If you have last nights dinner in your teeth. These all communicate something about you. (keep in mind I am not saying you do this but I have coached people who have) My point is just take a little extra care in the appearance department if you dont already. The hardest one is compatibility and verbal communication. I always suggest you work on the above ones first because once your strengthen those it just makes verbal easier and more comfortable. Plain and simple this part takes practice. I wish I could tell you pheromones will do it for you all on there own but they just dont work that way. They are a tool for self improvement and communication. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-me-nada/43359/16 "2010-11-17T05:53:55Z")
I see you just talking about hits from girls here..or lack of hits. How are people as a whole, both men and women…young…old…brown/black/white/purple etc. treating you? If you put on IO and sit in a classroom and chicks are all looking away but the dude next to you won’t STFU…its working. If chicks aren’t giving you the time of day but guys at school are suddenly deferring to you, the teacher all of a sudden is asking you to volunteer for projects and you’ve been wearing IG…its working. My point is, don’t just watch to see how the female gender is acting with you. Sure most of our reports tend to focus more on how we are interacting with the opposite sex, but we do include men in those reports too. Put something on and wear it for a couple of days and see if you notice anything different in how people are interacting with you. That way you can see if its working. Cuz if its working with dudes, its working with chicks.