# Moning In Seattle!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [March 21, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450 "2011-03-21T20:51:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 8:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/21 "2011-04-06T08:48:58Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > NICE post, Astrea!!! > > It’s great to get that attention and boost in self esteem with the mones! So, you were in friend of a friends house? > > Nice to see that the mones are working for you this way! > > Do you feel you that IS/b is giving you a boost of confidence? I have to say I’m loving the IS/B. Yes, 1Alpha, it certainly does give me a confidence boost. I’m going to try 4 sprays, but I’m kinda undecided . . . It’s not often I get this kind of attention and I’m still getting used to it. So, the mones are extra attention that I’m not used to . . . I think 4 is gonna take a superconfident, good hair and good ass day before I try it . . . 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 9:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/23 "2011-04-07T09:57:28Z")
The experiment continues . . . Today I decided to try just IO by itself. I’ve been liking the IS and IH so much, I haven’t actually used it by itself. It’s Wednesday, so my friend Karyne is gonna take me food shopping and drop me home again. Thank goodness for friends like her! 4 x sprays of IO. 1spray each side of my neck, 1 spray in my cleavage, 1 spray rubbed on both wrists. Outside temp (_when I left the house)_ 55F; this dropped 6 degrees in the next hour. On the bus, the driver (female; who’s seen me a few times now) when I put my fare in, she actually offers pleasantries, acknowledging that we should be familiar enough to say 'Hi". Nice. Waiting for Karyne, her mood slowly changes into a relaxed smile. When we leave, she starts actually chatting. Normally, the leaving is taken up with her checking all satchels and briefcases, making the (old and arthritic) dog move in the appropriate direction - yes, she does and her boss loves the Daisy dog.🙂 Instead, she focuses on a conversation she started! This is a huge departure from her usual process. In the car, the dog is quiet for a change, and Karyne is remarkably chatty. I love this. Normally, we only get to sort out what we haven’t heard from each other. The male bank teller makes flirty jokes with me. It’s closing time, and one of the loan specialists comes to unlock the door for me. He stood beside me, unlocked the door, started to open it, looked at me and said: “Are you absolutely sure you want to leave?” I was so startled, I looked at him, realised he was victim to the IO as he was standing so close my shoulder was touching his arm. He was all wide eyed. I had another 3 conversations in the supermarket. Not ‘Hi, how are ya?’ but actual conversations of 10 minutes or more. And I was enjoying it! Normally, the supermarket is somewhere I like to get in and out of as fast as humanly possible. When she dropped me home, she was “happy we got a chance to talk for a change”. I’m gonna use this for shopping day! I just love how mentally relaxed my friend was. 🙂 About 3 and a half hours later, I reapplied one spray of IO to my cleavage and I’m at home. Justin (a roommate) starts talking about anything, and checks constantly to make sure I’m entertained and laughing at the movie. Dred Zak (a roommate) comes in looking PMS’y and eases into subdued after talking to me for a bit. James (a roommate) comes in loud, but settles down after a couple of minutes - I deliberately moved into his personal space to see what effect it would have. Red Zak and Stephi come in - there’s too much going on for them to stay out, but Red Zak keeps coming out to talk intermittently. Juliana (James’ gf) is chatty anyway. All in all, I **like** IO. The fact that I was enjoying the random conversations at the supermarket, wasn’t in a hurry to leave, stayed smiling all the while, makes me think that IO will be extremely useful to me in relation to my pre-panic attack stress levels. **I didn’t get stressed at all in the supermarket.** This is seriously important. It’s my least liked place to be, and invariably has me stressed by the time I leave. _ **Self effect: a calm, balanced, happy willingness to chat.** _ I am interested in knowing if anyone else has had this result with IO. This is going to be the most practical effects of the mones for me, personally. **Being able to relax, or already relaxed to prevent a panic attack - AWESOME!** 😃 Pass it ON! ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 8:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/24 "2011-04-08T08:25:15Z")
Today I wanted to see what _would happen if_: **3 sprays IO; 1 spray between both wrists, 1 spray each side of my neck and 1 spray back of the neck.** **3 sprays IS; 1 spray on throat, 1 spray on cleavage, 1 spray between both wrists.** **4 sprays IS/B; 1 spray between both wrists, 1 spray each side of my neck, 1 spray on cleavage.** **Self effects:** I immediately calm down; I’m in a hurry and having a klutz attack. Then suddenly, I’m smiling and everything gets done on time. I get out and to the stop in plenty of time without stressing, major improvement. Normally, I would probably delayed departure and not got what I needed done. I’m ok and that’s all. I’m not getting that sexy confidence boost I’ve had so far with the IS/B. **Outside temp:** is 51F but the wind is moderate, cold and consistent. It’s still jacket weather and I can’t remember when I was last warm outside. Can’t wait to try the mones somewhere apart from what’s accessible with jackets and sweaters. My immediate thoughts are that I maxed out with the IS/B at 3 sprays. Here’s why: I get on the bus, and my seat of choice is flanked by 3 adult males. All mid thirties. I literally sat (in my own bench) in the middle of them and not one of them gave me a second look. At the post office, a guy in line hears my question and offers an answer and directions smiling a lot. The IS and IO combination reaction for sure. On the street, I ask 2 guys for further clarification of directions and they are helpful but not attentive. I meet up with Korteney, and go back to the previous post office and try the self help area and get all the assistance I need from the guy in front who has figured it all out. Again helpful, but not any other reaction. 😕 Apart from telling me a little more than she would in the circumstances, Korteney doesn’t/hasn’t given a previous reaction to IS/B; and doesn’t today. Korteney and I meet up with one of her homeboys (sorry, but this is the most accurate description) and after about 20 minutes he is friendly, open and chatty. This apparently, is a little out of his norm. The 3 of us spend a few pleasant hours together. When the conversation digresses into something that could get a little intense; it is deliberately changed by someone with “let’s talk about something more positive”. Nice open communication without getting heavy. Lots of smiles all round. 🙂 All in all, I would say that 3 sprays of IS/B is my dose. I even had the thought that 4 sprays somewhat cancelled out the IS and IO, because those reactions were the most subdued yet. Previously, I’ve used the IS and IO to a much greater effect. For the first time, I didn’t get that awesome confident feeling with IS/B; also for the first time, after wearing off, my head feels heavy and stuffed - not my sinus’ but my **head** , murky like I’m getting sick. Not enjoying this feeling at all. No bueno. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 10:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/25 "2011-04-11T10:38:41Z")
So, I had a lunch date today. Actually, now, it was yesterday. It was a set up and I have avoided doing these since I (generally) stress over small talk. Personally, I’m not good at it. The weather here is still Seattle weather. It’s still cold overall, still raining, still jacket weather, still wearing winter weight clothes. Can’t wait for warmer weather to wear some short sleeves and try the mones on different spots! **3 x sprays IS/B; 1 x spray each side of my neck, 1x spray on my chest 3 x sprays IS; 1 x spray each side of my neck, 1x spray on my chest 2 x sprays IO; 2 x sprays on the top of my head.** I’m also hoping the IO has the same de stressing effect it had last time. **Self effects:** For a couple of minutes I have the disconcerting feeling of my head being wrapped in a hot dry towel, muzzy and disorienting. That clears and I start to feel better, then smiley. As I leave the house, it starts to rain (what else is new! 🙄); I start to feel confident. Not feeling sexy, just feel like getting this done. At the bus stop, some chick bounces up and heads towards me at the shelter, stops, looks at me, looks down and backs away. She stands by the shelter, not under it, in the rain; and when the bus comes she waits for me to board with her head down. At the next bus stop, while I’m waiting for the connecting bus, a Latino guy walks past me and does a double take. I had forgotten about the mones. I looked at him and gave a Mona Lisa smile, and he nodded up. This is good, it’s respect. On the next bus, he sits where he can see me and smiles. Nice 🙂 The bakery we’re supposed to meet at is long and narrow with the counter and cases down the length and a couple of tables along the wall and a line of people waiting all the way out of the door. Yeah, ahh NO. Change of venue. One of my favorite coffee shops. Hey, no judgements - it’s Seattle, coffee means something here. At this place, I finally relax, feel confident and we chat. He’s intelligent, literate, articulate and coherent. We spend a bunch of hours talking, walking and later eating. All told we spent a pleasant 6 hours or so together. This is something new for me. Normally, I would get maxed out at about 3 hours, be hideously tired and be looking to escape. 😮 But! I’m sure the IO helped get me over that. It’s so true about the easy conversations and for me; the de stressing effect it has is worth so much more than I can tell you. This is gonna be great for all those occasions that I need to play like a blonde 😛 without all the usual stresses. I’m almost wanting a panic attack to see if the IO can head it off. NOT that I’m irresponsible with my own issues; I learnt how to get them under control until I can get to a safe place. But it would be cool if when that happens, the IO de tangles the panic and the physical responses. For those of you who like details and everything wrapped up: No, he’s not my type. He’s easy, pleasant company and I’d be happy to hang out, but no more. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/26 "2011-04-13T08:27:08Z")
Anyway, I’ve had an experiment running since Sunday. We are about to sing the praises of IO. By itself as I just ran out of IS. Sunday I get a call saying that a friend whom I haven’t seen in a while died. It was 2 years of a particularly virulent breast cancer. So much so, that the first course of treatment was radiation. From there it progressed to experimental treatments and now it’s over. The only reason I hadn’t seen her, is because she’s refused to see anyone in the throes of treatment. She didn’t want us to remember her like that. When I got the news (being prepared doesn’t really help), I sprayed: **3 x sprays IO; 1 x spray to each side of my neck, 1 x spray to my chest.** **Self effects:** It allowed me to actually get a grip on the emotions. If I have to go out of the house, and I have, it allows me to think the thought of grief and let it go, and not burst into tears. Again, invaluable. This will definitely let me cut off panic attacks before they get a hold. I cry and can’t stop before I get the mones on and when the mones have worn off. That’s ok, I gotta grieve. But being able to function outside without the threat of breaking down uncontrollably, is heaven sent. No intention of bringing anyone down, just letting you know this is so practical and I don’t see that sort of effect noted in any journals ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/27 "2011-04-13T16:09:03Z")
I’m so sorry to hear that. It’s always tough when something like that happens. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 7:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/28 "2011-04-14T07:44:48Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I’m so sorry to hear that. It’s always tough when something like that happens. Thanx P51Mustang, or may I call you StangMan? Yeah, but the whole point in telling you guys was that the IO is doing so much for my dealing with the day to day without the fear of an attack. I wanted you to get how amazing this is for me, not to bring anyone down 😃 REALLY the only other things that have helped are naturopathic treatments, and they’re expensive. At least the ones that I got result with were, and not nearly so enjoyable 🙄 and it’s the: IO TOGO! regular strength by itself, 3 sprays is my sweet spot; **1 x spray to each side of my neck; 1 x spray to my chest.** and that proved itself today: **Self effects:** my mood was a borderline sad/neutral; I’d not been either particularly. After about 10 minutes I get a kind of “ok I can do this” which gets lost in a sudden moderate shower just as I’m leaving. My peevishness disappears when the rain stops and I’m smiling. The traffic is a nightmare and the ride is held up - without phasing me. I’m still smiling. **Outside temp:** _it’s still cold!_ 49F, cold constant wind, intermittent showers. Productivity wise: this day is a bust. After an extended, traffic jammed, 30 minutes longer than it should have been bus ride; I forgot my debit card and only have one single dollar on me :o So, I call Korteney to hang for a minute, and while I’m waiting, a rather pretty guy (of mixed heritage) approached me, smiling and asked if it would be ok if we talked. I’ve only had that happen a couple of times, ever. Anyway, we end up exchanging numbers; Korteneny txts, I meet up with her and a couple of her friends, and yes everyone’s extremely chatty and in fun, pleasant moods. We run into another one of her friends; he does a double take on me and smiles big, and says it’s good to see me again. I had to think a second to remember our previous meeting, I was wearing mones then, too. Off the bus, one of the local residents (female) starts walking and talking with me on the walk home. It turns out, she only lives a couple of streets away and invites me to a garden planting party at her street. They make a block party of it. Today everyone chatted happily, responded animatedly, and wanted to smile with me. My mood was lifted from a sad/neutral mood to a calm, balanced mood and then to quietly cheerful. Just with IO! I’m so sorry, I just gotta :o : IO IO it’s off to work I go - cheerfully! 😮 I’m done. I’m so impressed I can’t adequately tell you. I have decided that there is no walking out the door without mones. 😮 ---
**Author:** ![ladiesman217](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@ladiesman217](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladiesman217)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 7:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/29 "2011-04-20T07:04:24Z")
> [@Astrea](#): > > Korteney, on the other hand is (seemingly) impervious, and spends a couple of hours with me; confiding all sorts of things she really shouldn’t. Just as well it’s me she’s telling.🙂 Hey Astrea, I’m wondering if Korteney is affected, but in a different way then others are. You said she is naturally condident, so intimidation may not be something you will get from her. It sounds like she is reacting to the IH you have worn around her, with all of her confiding in you and what not. I hope Im not mixing anything up here, theres a lot of names so keep track of 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/30 "2011-04-20T08:57:51Z")
> [@ladiesman217](#): > > Hey Astrea, > I’m wondering if Korteney is affected, but in a different way then others are. You said she is naturally condident, so intimidation may not be something you will get from her. It sounds like she is reacting to the IH you have worn around her, with all of her confiding in you and what not. > I hope Im not mixing anything up here, theres a lot of names so keep track of 🙄 A lot of names - try living here with all the _people_ 😮 lol. I’m sorry if I was unclear; I am referring to Korteney not being intimidated by the IS/b. Regardless of how much I wear (of the IS/b) she takes it in stride and responds to the IH, IS and IO. 😉 Stephanie is quieter, a little insecure and not so confident; IS/b really affects her. When I’m wearing the IS/b, she literally hides in her room. 😮 BUT she responds as you would expect to the socials. Actually she likes the socials and will be really smiley - regardless of what mood she started in - and will want hang and chat. Korteney is a young woman who basically had to raise her mother. It’s a mindset. She confides in me anyway, just doesn’t blurt out details in one hit the way she just spews information with the mones in play 😃 Stephanie is the product of a stable home life, and reasonably catered to. Not spoiled, but never had to fend for herself. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/31 "2011-04-21T03:49:57Z")
Today was food shopping day again. I started with an ok to good mood. So, I thought I’d try 4 sprays of IS by itself. It’s still on the cold side here so this is how it went. **4 x sprays IS; 1 x spray to each side of neck; 1 x spray to chest; 1 x spray to top of head.** **Self effect:** - nothing. No change in mood. 😕 **Outside temp:** when I left was 55F, warm but an intermittent cool breeze. No discernible effect on anyone! Not on my friend Karyne whose car I was in, and she has been affected before by lesser quantities of IS with other mones. Shopping: no effect on anyone. The people who are normally glad to see me, were. The rest of the people in the market, no. Even to the point of smiling at people in my way, they just looked at me blankly and then looked away - without moving. 😮 ??? 4 sprays is obviously too much for me, this was kind of disappointingly curious. 😕 So, no more 4 sprays of IS or IS/B for me. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 10:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/32 "2011-04-21T10:27:11Z")
Today I decided to try just [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) by itself. I’ve been liking the IS and [IH](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) so much, I haven’t actually used it by itself. It’s Wednesday, so my friend Karyne is gonna take me food shopping and drop me home again. Thank goodness for friends like her! **4 x sprays of [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) . 1spray each side of my neck, 1 spray in my cleavage, 1 spray rubbed on both wrists.** \*\* Self effect: **none that I can tell, overtly. \*\* Outside temp:** (_when I left the house)_ 55F; this dropped 6 degrees in the next hour. On the bus, the driver (female; who’s seen me a few times now) when I put my fare in, she actually offers pleasantries, acknowledging that we should be familiar enough to say 'Hi". Nice. Waiting for Karyne, her mood slowly changes into a relaxed smile. When we leave, she starts actually chatting. Normally, the leaving is taken up with her checking all satchels and briefcases, making the (old and arthritic) dog move in the appropriate direction - yes, she does and her boss loves the Daisy dog.🙂 Instead, she focuses on a conversation she started! This is a huge departure from her usual process. In the car, the dog is quiet for a change, and Karyne is remarkably chatty. I love this. Normally, we only get to sort out what we haven’t heard from each other. The male bank teller makes flirty jokes with me. It’s closing time, and one of the loan specialists comes to unlock the door for me. He stood beside me, unlocked the door, started to open it, looked at me and said: “Are you absolutely sure you want to leave?” I was so startled, I looked at him, realised he was victim to the [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) as he was standing so close my shoulder was touching his arm. He was all wide eyed. I had another 3 conversations in the supermarket. Not ‘Hi, how are ya?’ but actual conversations of 10 minutes or more. And I was enjoying it! Normally, the supermarket is somewhere I like to get in and out of as fast as humanly possible. When she dropped me home, she was “happy we got a chance to talk for a change”. I’m gonna use this for shopping day! I just love how mentally relaxed my friend was. 🙂 About 3 and a half hours later, I reapplied one spray of [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to my cleavage and I’m at home. Justin (a roommate) starts talking about anything, and checks constantly to make sure I’m entertained and laughing at the movie. Dred Zak (a roommate) comes in looking PMS’y and eases into subdued after talking to me for a bit. James (a roommate) comes in loud, but settles down after a couple of minutes - I deliberately moved into his personal space to see what effect it would have. Red Zak and Stephi come in - there’s too much going on for them to stay out, but Red Zak keeps coming out to talk intermittently. Juliana (James’ gf) is chatty anyway. All in all, I **like** [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) . The fact that I was enjoying the random conversations at the supermarket, wasn’t in a hurry to leave, stayed smiling all the while, makes me think that [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) will be extremely useful to me in relation to my pre-panic attack stress levels. **I didn’t get stressed at all in the supermarket.** This is seriously important. It’s my least liked place to be, and invariably has me stressed by the time I leave. I am interested in knowing if anyone else has had this result with [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) . This is going to be the most practical effects of the [mones](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) for me, personally. **Being able to relax, or already relaxed to prevent a panic attack - AWESOME!** 😃 Pass it ON! \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 10:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/33 "2011-04-21T10:28:45Z")
Today was food shopping day again. I started with an ok to good mood. So, I thought I’d try 4 sprays of IS by itself. It’s still on the cold side here so this is how it went. **4 x sprays IS; 1 x spray to each side of neck; 1 x spray to chest; 1 x spray to top of head.** **Self effect:** - nothing. No change in mood. 😕 **Outside temp:** when I left was 55F, warm but an intermittent cool breeze. No discernible effect on anyone! Not on my friend Karyne whose car I was in, and she has been affected before by lesser quantities of IS with other [mones](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) . Shopping: no effect on anyone. The people who are normally glad to see me, were. The rest of the people in the market, no. Even to the point of smiling at people in my way, they just looked at me blankly and then looked away - without moving. 😮 ??? 4 sprays is obviously too much for me, this was kind of disappointingly curious. 😕 So, no more 4 sprays of IS or IS/B for me. ---
**Author:** ![imagining\_that](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b77776/32.png) [@imagining\_that](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/imagining_that)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/34 "2011-04-22T00:46:06Z")
> [@Astrea](#): > > Self effect:- nothing. No change in mood. 😕 I’m curious…did YOU really feel differently at 3 but not at 4? I’m just a couple of days into this and not sure that anyone around me is benefiting but me. When I spray on IS and (after the alcohol dries!!) smell it, I can definitely feel something goin’ on in me. It doesn’t change my mood, it just changes my physical feel. I upped it to 3 sprays at lunch today…and nothing different in any way shape or form…It’s hard to get out of my head the ‘bigger is better’ notion…I keep wanting to spray more and more and thinking that THAT is what will get some hits… ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/35 "2011-04-22T08:57:44Z")
> [@imagining\_that](#): > > I’m curious…did YOU really feel differently at 3 but not at 4? I’m just a couple of days into this and not sure that anyone around me is benefiting but me. When I spray on IS and (after the alcohol dries!!) smell it, I can definitely feel something goin’ on in me. It doesn’t change my mood, it just changes my physical feel. I upped it to 3 sprays at lunch today…and nothing different in any way shape or form…It’s hard to get out of my head the ‘bigger is better’ notion…I keep wanting to spray more and more and thinking that THAT is what will get some hits… :(No, I felt no different with 4 sprays of _IS_. 2 or 3 sprays seems to be my sweet spot for IS and IS/b. 4 sprays of IS _on me_ had no response effect on those around me either. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 12:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/36 "2011-04-22T12:21:47Z")
Ok, I had a ‘networking event’ for indie fashion professionals. These kinds of things make me twitch. Generally, I’m not so adroit at small talk, so these things while they may be ‘enjoyable’ environs; just press all my stress buttons. So, the plan was: **3 x sprays IS/B; 1 x spray each side of neck, 1 x spray to chest.** **3 x sprays IS; 1 x spray each side of neck; 1 x spray to chest.** **4 x sprays IO; 1 x spray to top of head; 1 x spray to back of neck; 1 x spray to the back of each hand.** I ‘talk’ with my hands, so I figure that my IO _ **in** _ their space can only help. **Self effects:** in the first instance, nothing. I have a cold and can only smell so much, so not even getting the smell - which I like. **Outside temp:** 55F and starts spitting rain as I leave the house. ☹ Not happy. I get to the top of my street and watch the bus drive by. Not happy. ☹ It’s going to be half an hour to the next one and I just want to get this over with. After playing musical chairs between 2 bus stops on opposite corners of a busy intersection and manage to get one earlier than the usual route. First thing to go right. I take the ride with noisy stressful passengers and try to meditate into a better mood. 🙂 By the time I arrive at the event, I’m in a neutral mood. But when I make my way to the crowd I start to smile, I feel confident and walk up to the first couple of people I see and join their conversation. 🙂 It goes well. All of it. There are a few people I know here, and I have an advantage with genuine affectionate meetings. You know, someone you’ve seen often enough at these and other venues, you’ve spent enough time to have had a decent conversation and enjoyed it and are happy to see them and know you have an escape route covered if it all goes south. 😃 It all goes better than expected. I’m loving the 4 x spray of IO. People are approaching to talk to me; everyone’s smiling and the conversation is easy, and the occasional hug from someone I know well enough for that to be nice 🙂. When I move away to get food or drink, incidental niceties are exchanged. It’s a good night in the fistful of cards in my pocket. It was a **great** night for me personally 😃😃 I left in a good mood; feeling great, feeling confident. Usually, these things leave me on the exhausted side of down, drained and just all over brought down. If not, on the edges of panic. And just dying to be in my own space. **This is awesome!** After a rocky start, the evening turned out to be fun! I left there and went to visit Korteney at a friends apartment, also downtown. Again, something I wouldn’t do after one of these things, spend time voluntarily with people I don’t know so well and who have also previously demonstrated a fairly strong reaction to mones. When I settle into the room, conversation starts. We’re watching Across the Universe, so the conversation takes the form of witty commentary and short random discussions. I leave there in a good mood. Korteney and I have the walk to the nearest stop to catch up with a couple of details - btw She moved out a couple of weekends ago and now lives downtown. I chill and enjoy the bus ride - there’s an open discussion between the driver, one of his regular passengers, a guy in a leg cast and me. Witty repartee ensues and even the ride home was fun. I realise that by the end of the night, the mones are just about fully dissipated, but just the de stressing of the event was enough to guarantee a good mood. My usual MO is to leave one of those things after being miserable deliberately invisible for half an hour. :o I said it before and I’m probably gonna say this about IO as often as Alpha says the same about IS: I love IO; this is the mone that’s my smile in a bottle (thankyou 1Alpha for that tag). I’ve taken almost 4 hours to write this, intermittently catching up with roommates! An unprecedented night of socializing since I can’t remember when. 😃 As a very entertaining dog and blue cat once said: Happy, Happy. Joy, Joy. Happy, Happy, Joy! ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/37 "2011-04-25T04:32:33Z")
Yesterday I went to help set up for a charity function that I participate in every year since its’ inception. This was gonna be awkward, considering my connection there was . . . complicated. Let’s just say her manners since last July when I was needing something from her; were appalling. Now that she needs something from me . . . you get the picture. I also didn’t want to waste mones on this bitch. But - After the debacle of 4 x sprays of IS with no effect whatsoever; I decided that I would go with: **3 x sprays of IS: 1 x spray each side of my shoulders, under the collarbone; 1 x spray middle of chest.** **Self effects:** put me in a carefully guarded mood, as opposed to the tense mood I was in wondering if I’d be able to keep my mouth shut and tone civil. Good start. **Outside temp:** 60F finally a warm day!!! 😃 I spent the travel time being careful to keep my best mood and ignoring everyone and everything else. When I got there, J (the bitch) was SO glad to see me (?). After intro’s and the 5 other females smiling at me and wanting to know who, what, when etc of me in this organization; I’m given the solitary task of inventory on the boxes that are in the space. Good. This is something I’ve done on a massive scale - inventory - and I just toss the previous lists and start my own. J keeps dropping by for incidental chit chat and I’m polite and civil. We take a break, the rest of the girls want to converse; but I smile and keep a mental distance. It’s enough that I’m here. When we finish, I’m thanked profusely and offered a ride home by J. I accepted (beats the bus) and thankfully one of the other girls needs a ride too. So, I volunteer for the backseat. She took the top down, making conversation with me hard (thankyou!) and I have an uneventful ride home. What could have been an absolute disaster turned out fine. I didn’t lose my cool; she is now making all sorts of effort to ‘break thru’ my reserve. Not as good in the self effects, but still a great result for me, and by capillary action, good result for everyone else there. 😃 I’m still in love with IO, but I didn’t want to waste it on this minor event. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 11:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/38 "2011-04-27T11:10:54Z")
Still feels like it’s yesterday that this happened but, this is an update for Monday 4/25. The person (FY) that approached me on the 14th; the random guy I met and exchanged numbers with called today asking if he could come over and hang out with me. Being curious; and considering plans on our day of meeting got twisted; I said ok. This guy calls me and calls me baby; like we’ve been going out or something. I ask him not to call me baby. At most, our first meeting lasted about half an hour; after plans for later that day died, he said he’d call the next day, and didn’t. I had deleted his phone number. I’d forgotten about this guy and this afternoon he’s on the phone, talking like we’re old news. Piqued my curiosity. Having decided on IS and IH - I want to know what’s going on - I go meet him near my house. Also, while there I’m picking up some milk. **3 x sprays IS; 1 x spray back of each hand; 1 x spray back of neck.** **3 x sprays IH; 1 x spray top of head; 1 x spray each collarbone.** **Self effect:** This makes me mildly giddy, mildly anticipatory and smiley. I like it. The idea is with this much IH - I’ve only worn 2 sprays of IH until now - is to find out what this guy wants. And no, smart ass, it feels like there’s more than the obvious. **Outside temp:** is about 55F but the wind is icy and moderate to hard; but it’s a fine sunshiny day. 😃 Inside temp in my room is approx 58F maintained. So, I go meet him and he’s all smiles. Nice. We head back to my place and I’m making smallish talk, waiting for the mones to kick in . . . All of a sudden, he takes my hand and I have no personal space. 😮 He’s a approx 5’ 11", but a solid guy with a few extra pounds; mixed race, he calls himself Black Navajo. He’s crowding me, not in a threatening or intimidating way; but a _ **clingy** _ way!!? 😮 I take back my space with a slight adjustment, this is not a new experience and I’m good enough, nine out of ten don’t realise when I do it. We’re talking; he constantly reaches for me, finally I look at his hand and then him for a few long seconds and raise an eyebrow and he drops his hand without changing expression or pausing conversation. I’m telling you all of these details because I don’t know this guy well enough to know if these are hits or not. Certainly never had a reaction like this from anyone in this country. By the time we get back to my house, I’m starting to wonder about the conversation. He’s agreeing with everything I say. Hmmm, whaa? On the way I tell him there’s a redneck freak show happening in the house and I’m not going to torture him by introducing him to that. Lately, Justin and James have decided their buddies and the toxic crap that flows out of their mouths when they’ve had a few beers is offensive. So loud, that tv’s two rooms away have to be turned up so they can be heard **with** the doors shut. Everyone leaves them to themselves - to the point of not coming out of bedrooms except for refreshments. Enough said. 😠 We’re on my bed (the only place to sit in my room) and he’s crowding me physically. Except now, he keeps playing with my hand and kissing the spot where mones are sprayed. He’s talking about his childhood. On the rez and off it. He tell me something he doesn’t usually tell people and is **clinging** physically to the point that I have to tell him to back up and let me have a little space. I’ve asked him why he was in such a push to come over and hang and get the reply that he liked my energy and wanted to spend as much time as possible with me. In whatever capacity that might be. 🙄 Stalker or the clingiest guy I’ve ever met. 😮 As the conversation progresses; he’s still agreeing to everything I say and then validating why he agrees. He starts to repeat shadow style the last few words of my sentences. This is starting to annoy me. All through this, he physically crowds me. It’s not seduction, it’s needy. I have to tell him every 15mins or so to give me some space. He challenges this at one point; and I tell him we’ve only known each other for a couple of hours and he needs to let me have some space on my own bed without being crowded, and give me a chance to get to know him. He pretends to be hurt by this. When I challenge that, he backs off. He gets sleepy and starts to nod off; when he does he’s got the worst snore I’ve heard since my grandmother. I wake him, he disputes he was asleep. This goes on for the next **two hours** : me waking him and telling him to just lie down and go to sleep (I’m watching tv) and hopefully he’ll stop snoring so badly, if his breathing passages aren’t crimped at a weird angle. I’m getting really pissed with this. Sleep, snore, wake, deny, laugh, ignore my request, sleep. Get the picture? 😠 And I have to turn the volume up, I can’t hear it over his snoring. I end up sleeping on the couch, because he’s snoring on his sides and back and it’s so loud it’s ridiculous. Totally unsatisfactory. I dug around and the best answer I could get as to why he was so intense about seeing me resulted in something that sounded like the bullshit that is flung when trying to manipulate a situation by appealing to a girls’ vanity. I mean, do guys really go on about attributes that they don’t actually know you have? It would have been completely different if he knew me. As it was, I felt like I was being sold something and was going to have to pay for it through the nose. 🙄 Now, really? Does anyone else have reactions like this to IS and IH? The bottom line is I don’t know this guy enough to know if he’s like this with all of his ‘targets’; but I found it weird and untrustworthy. Every sentence had my ‘warning bells’ going off and left me with the conviction that this was the neediest, clingiest guy I’d ever met. He completely put me off. This is NOT someone I’d pursue anything with - except the occasional **daytime** hang out. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/39 "2011-04-27T19:59:52Z")
I’ve had people unconsciously get close to me with IS on. But, in his case, his attraction to you and ‘your energy’ is getting him to clingy!!! Would you think that maybe he normally kisses women’s hands because he normally can get away with it? Or maybe he was zeroing in on the [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)…? Either way, he sounds a bit creepy… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/40 "2011-04-27T22:06:18Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > I’ve had people unconsciously get close to me with IS on. But, in his case, his attraction to you and ‘your energy’ is getting him to clingy!!! > > Would you think that maybe he normally kisses women’s hands because he normally can get away with it? Or maybe he was zeroing in on the Instant Shine…? > > Either way, he sounds a bit creepy… ☹ I have no idea, but as everyone knows, I’m currently unemployed, so money’s tight to non-existent. He offered to give me $100 per week 😮😮. I told him I’d probably be under a bridge before I’d take him up on that; as _ **why would anyone do that for someone they don’t know???!! 😮😮😮** _ I was even straight up with him about what that kind of favor actually costs the recipient and he goes: Oh, nothing it’s just money. I would never blah blah blah. Creepy, yes. For the rest, I’m actually speechless. ☹ Way to weird for me. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 7:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450/41 "2011-04-29T07:17:17Z")
Here’s a novelty for you: an update on the same day! Yay 😃 A bit of back story: The week before last; I (after a bunch of weird research) ended up calling a guy who has a bunch of Green Wellness Clinics. Anyway, after talking to him for a bit; he asks me if I’m looking for employment. “Well, yes” I said, “why do you ask?”. He says: “I need people on the phones setting appointments for the 3 clinics we have in the Seattle area. You’ve got a great voice, you’re calm and really well mannered and I’d like to talk to you about a job”. 😮 Long story short, today was the interview with him and his business partner. I made a mone plan and almost stuck to it. **2 x sprays IS/B; 1 x spray each side outside collarbones.** **2 x sprays IH; 2 x sprays to the top of my head.** **2 x sprays IS; 1 x spray to the back of each hand.** **3 x sprays IO; 1 x spray to throat; 1 x spray to each wrist.** **Self effects:** OMG, I LUV, LAHV, LAAAAAAAAAAAHVE this combination. 😉 After about 15 mins; I feel truly, completely, irksomely self satisfied and SMUG. 🆒 It’s like the stressed person took a step to the left, and I got to be me again. 😃 Seriously, cannot tell you how awesome I feel, hours and hours after the mones are gone, just because today was a damn good day. 🙂 **Outside temp:** It’s a pretty day, 40 - 45F depending if it’s windy; moving clouds over blue sky, sunshine - we’re still living in the cold temps, so it’s not common. I wear what I have that looks good and go out. And it’s freezing. The cold is bitter and when the wind blows it’s biting. I’m not wearing enough. Where I’m going is an hour and a half transit commute; and I’m not familiar with the area. I get off too soon, and realise I’m lost. Literally. This is not described in the Transit Guide map. That map only shows the route - without context. 😮 He calls me, which is good because it diffuses the cranky that’s beginning; and he picks me up off the street corner. 😃 Sounds as bad as I imagine it looked lol. Anyway, the power is out and the company has a crew replacing a pole outside the house this part of the business is operating out of. So the computers and phones are down and he had to send the other two home. It’s also too cold to take my jacket off, as the heat’s out too. He’s telling me about the business - so far, here and Hawaii - and it’s an interesting place. He’s responding well to me, listening to what I have to say/ask, lots of good eye contact and smiles and during this he’s also working incoming calls. About and hour later, I meet his business partner and we start chatting. Both gave me good eye contact, smiles and respect. We’re all talking across this open style living room, eating space and kitchen. And it’s all easy. This is my first interview in a year. I leave with the employees handbook. 😉 Guy number two gives me a short road tour of best route to the house from where I was - very helpful. So, I have some reading to do before going back tomorrow. 🆒 **It’s about f\*ckin’ time!** I’m so happy. 🆒 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/moning-in-seattle/49450.md?page=3)