# More p83 - Instant Touchiness? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 5, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-p83-instant-touchiness/14912 "2008-07-05T03:40:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-p83-instant-touchiness/14912/1 "2008-07-05T03:40:11Z")
I’ve had some not-so-great experiences with p83 in the past, but I’m soldiering on with it! I want to see some of the reactions I’ve read about from other ladies, and dammit I **will**! 😛 So far, though, p83 has graduated from Instant Bitch reactions to Instant Touch, and I definitely think this has to do with the other pheros I had on. Day 1: 6 drops EoW to wrists, inner elbows, and neck 4 sprays IS/B unscented to back of the neck/head and chest 3 sprays MX135 to back of the neck/head 2 sprays [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 4X unscented to the back of the head 2 sprays p83 to the back of the neck Pink Sugar to cover Older Japanese coworker, who has been flirty with me in the past, completely stopped in his tracks as I was passing and asked if I speak French. I laughed and said “No, why?” He said he had a French language song he wanted me to hear, and initiated a long, rambling explanation of how this song was extremely emotional and moved him. The whole time he was speaking, he was lightly holding me by the elbow. It was less like a “hey, stop, come here and listen to me!” grab and more like a “I’ve just got to touch you; the elbow is probably the best place I could get away with” thing. He held on to me until the conversation was completely done and I indicated I needed to be elsewhere at that moment. He apologized, but still didn’t let loose until I started moving away from him. Later at lunch, I met a couple of friends I hadn’t seen for a couple of months. Both of them were really touchy-feely, one grabbed locks of my hair and twirled them around her fingers when talking about how curly it looked, the other grabbed my hands several times from across the table. At one point he began massaging one hand and forearm between both of his. It didn’t feel like a sexual/sensual thing at the time to me, but perhaps it was? Day 2: Same exact mix as Day 1. A superior of mine (A) was speaking to me and another department superior (G) about some things we needed to do over the next few days. A and G spoke at length and in circles for about ten minutes, which I attributed to the Instant Honesty 4X. At the end of the conversation, A put his hand on my upper back/the back of my shoulder, stared me deep in the eyes and said “Thanks”. He smiled at me in a way that was both adoring and lascivious. I’m completely uninterested in A this way, but it’s occured to me that A and TG #1 have become pretty close and have started doing things together outside of work. I wonder if something has been said between the two of them, or perhaps A has picked up on the vibe between me and TG and is trying to initiate some kind of competition. I’m not really interested in fostering that as I don’t think TG #1 is the kind to respond to that kind of game playing very well. Plus I don’t want to give A the wrong idea. ☹ Went out to dinner with several friends (different than the lunch friends on Day 1). I had reapplied all of my spray pheros by this point. The friend sitting next to me at the table kept petting my hair for various reasons throughout the night. She also grabbed my sleeve at one point to compliment me on my shirt, which led to petting my arm through the fabric. I noticed that our waiter kept staring at me when he would come to our table, culminating in his putting his hand on my back several times when refilling my beverage. He was cute, I should have gotten his number! 😉 I’m going to continue with p83 testing next week, albeit without EoW or any other cops-containing formula. See [unintended consequences of daily pheromone use](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/unintended-consequences-of-daily-pheromone-use/14809) for an explanation why. :o ---
**Author:** ![galydrum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/galydrum/32/5181_2.png) [@galydrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/galydrum)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-p83-instant-touchiness/14912/2 "2008-07-05T17:09:46Z")
Interesting. Wildflower is recently reporting increased affection and touchiness over on the male users forum as well. He’s getting more physical contact from friends of both genders. You might want to check that thread out. ---
**Author:** ![EmeraldNight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/emeraldnight/32/549_2.png) [@EmeraldNight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/EmeraldNight)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 3:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-p83-instant-touchiness/14912/3 "2008-07-06T03:13:17Z")
> [@ariadne](#): > > Older Japanese coworker, who has been flirty with me in the past, completely stopped in his tracks as I was passing and asked if I speak French. I laughed and said “No, why?” He said he had a French language song he wanted me to hear, and initiated a long, rambling explanation of how this song was extremely emotional and moved him. Just curious, do you remember what the song was or who it was by? I listen to a lot of French music. I can’t wait to hear how it goes. It seems like you had some definate “wow i need to touch her!” moments 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 3:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-p83-instant-touchiness/14912/4 "2008-07-06T03:18:33Z")
> [@EmeraldNight](#): > > Just curious, do you remember what the song was or who it was by? I listen to a lot of French music. I don’t know offhand, but he e-mailed me a link to it, which I have yet to listen to. As soon as I do, I’ll let you know! ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-p83-instant-touchiness/14912/5 "2008-07-06T14:27:48Z")
How unusual is this for you? Did it make you uncomfortable? Perhaps [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) contributes to decreasing personal space? That seems to be the common thread through all the reports. I would order some, but being a WASP I’m not sure how I’d react to somebody touching me out of the blue. Normally I sort of feel like somebody is “getting in my face” if they stand too close to me, and if they touch me I feel like its sort of threatening. OTOH, the self-effects probably would suggest perhaps that a person wouldn’t care? ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-p83-instant-touchiness/14912/6 "2008-07-06T19:47:35Z")
Ariadne great report, reps. How many mcgs per spray is your p83 bottle? I’m guessing the standard 12.5mcg togo spray so you had on a similar dose to what I had on. Did you get any self effects? I didn’t get any direct self effects per se but it seams p83 has greater self effects for woman so that could be why. I got increased touchiness as well from p83 but it didn’t feel “sexual” (even if it was) it was more “affectionate” than anything else, was it similar for you as well? Daedelus you should try p83. You mention that you are uncomfortable being touched but I’m willing to bet that when wearing p83 it won’t overly bother you. I’m finding it hard to put into words but whilst the increased displays of affection don’t seem normal you don’t question them because it feels appropriate at the time. It was only looking back the next day I realized people where behaving out of character I was lost in the moment at the time not thinking about pheromones. Tomorrow I’m going to do some more testing with p83. Same dose as before with 2 sprays of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) because Instant Gentleman is the one product I’m most familiar so I know what to expect from it and I’ll be able to determine what’s the Instant Gentleman or the p83. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-p83-instant-touchiness/14912/7 "2008-07-06T21:05:16Z")
I’m definitely going to get some and try it out. I’m thinking in combination with [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and/or TAK it might produce an interesting effect. I know Androtics is always trying to perfect a “Come Talk to Me” mix that works. I think I’ll start at 12.5 mcg or so, that sounds about right. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-p83-instant-touchiness/14912/8 "2008-07-06T21:15:08Z")
I’m definatly interested in how it behaves when mixed with other pheromones. I don’t think anyone has tried it with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) before so tommorow should be interesting for me, I’ve no idea what to expect. The effects I got from p83 and the effects I get from Instant Gentleman may be totally different when combined. ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 9:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-p83-instant-touchiness/14912/9 "2008-07-07T09:30:44Z")
I’ve noticed the touch effects of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) as well. I just wish girls would feel compelled to touch my ass more often 😃 . In another of my P83 experiments I approached a lineup. Everybody was just standing there and as soon as I came into their presence they all simultaneously touched themselves in some way. Like scratch their head, rubs their arms etc. I thought maybe coincidence but I’m beginning to wonder of P83’s possible touch properties. They could also maybe manifest as self effects too in some cases. ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-p83-instant-touchiness/14912/10 "2008-07-09T03:09:42Z")
> [@Pheraoh](#): > > I’ve noticed the touch effects of P83 as well. I just wish girls would feel compelled to touch my ass more often 😃 . In another of my P83 experiments I approached a lineup. Everybody was just standing there and as soon as I came into their presence they all simultaneously touched themselves in some way. Like scratch their head, rubs their arms etc. > > I thought maybe coincidence but I’m beginning to wonder of P83’s possible touch properties. They could also maybe manifest as self effects too in some cases. Amazing that you mentioned this, Pheraoh! I wore more p83 today, this time with just: 1 spray Instant Shine 2X to the chest 1 spray [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 4X to the back of the head 2 sprays p83 12.5mcg (that’s for whoever asked earlier in this thread, that’s the only dosage I have) to the back of the head I was working mostly with [Mr. Darcy](http://i310.photobucket.com/albums/kk420/ariadne_acosta/mrdarcy.jpg) today and was prepared! He’s very reserved and we haven’t even moved beyond “accidental” touching yet, so I didn’t exactly expect his hand on my ass or anything. What I did get, though, was _a lot_ of more intimate joking than I’ve ever experienced before and _ **a lot** _ of touching… of himself. No, I don’t mean _that_ kind of touching, but he rubbed his hands and arms, scratched his head, pulled at his shirt… It sounds like fidgetiness, but this was a different quality of fidgetiness than he normally exhibits. We bonded today, to the extreme. It was awesome. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 4:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-p83-instant-touchiness/14912/11 "2008-07-09T04:12:34Z")
o man, i’m so excited to hear that p83 worked out well for you because i ordered some myself! i’ll def update as soon as i get some time to experiment with it 🙂 \<3