# More strange results with P77 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 21, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-strange-results-with-p77/51926 "2011-08-21T16:44:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![skittishsynapses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@skittishsynapses](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/skittishsynapses)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-strange-results-with-p77/51926/1 "2011-08-21T16:44:58Z")
I went out with Electracomplex to go eat out at a burger joint. They make everything from scratch, even the condiments. One of the tastiest burgers I’ve had and they give you the option of gruyere cheese. Mmm. Better not get started or I’ll be there before lunchtime. 😛 We headed over around 8pm, a tad nippy, my guess mid 60s. I decided to give P77 a go just because of the tight quarters, it would be warm inside and a varied crowd. That and I haven’t used it in a while. Been sticking with P103 or nothing at all lately. I sprayed 20mcgs on along my wrist and neck. I placed the orders and actually got them right (Electra’s are very selective, allergies). I usually manage to forget some part of the order. I picked out a booth/corner that was fairly large with no one sitting nearby. Guess I wanted the extra space/turf. We chatted and I felt a bit at ease, a tad cocky as I talked and teased her with my usual banter. I naturally tend to neg people though. Men, women. The food arrived and I went to get ketchup. Taller men seemed to give me a bit more space as I had to walk through the line to make it to the other side of the room. She found her burger to be undercooked, which bugs her since she’s worried about getting sick. Usually, I’m the one not trying to make a stink at places. This time, I was ready to get up, cut ahead of people and tell someone “hey, this burger is pink and the lady over there might get sick. Fix it.” I had an attitude of I’m not gonna stand for this. As I was ready to get up, she said it’s okay, she didn’t want to bother the joint when they’re busy. I asked her later about it and she said she felt more cuddly, less willing to inconvenience me into getting up, and was far less bothered than usual about the undercooked burger. Which surprisingly happens to her a lot. As we were heading out, we cut through the line again and I immediately see a tall (6’0") white guy in glasses with his girlfriend. They’re shoulder to shoulder, but not being affectionate in any way. I’m coming from his right and as I walk onto his left, where his girlfriend is standing, he immediately puts his arm around her and pulls her closer. I smirked and died of laughter on the way to the car. P77 makes guys uneasy around me, mostly taller guys. My previous experiences with it have made guys double take, like something about my scent wasn’t congruent with my height/physique. We headed over to visit our old man friends at starbucks. Bob, the stoner, responded well to this. It seems anything with a status elevator works well around him. He’s around 55-60. He offered a toke, and we chatted. He’s a lot taller than me, at 5’10". We talked in his car (Bob and Bill hang out in the parking lot, talking out of their cars). Just as A314, he treated me more of an equal and was more willing to listen. Other friends swing on by and we chat. One girl who boobed my hand a while back on A314 accidentally gave me a handful of butt this time around. lol. I said oops sorry about that. They were trying to figure out where to go and bowling was suggested. I mentioned an alley close by and the guys seemed more inclined and agreed to that. Off we went and I apologized to Bob and Bill for the quick hit and run. Electra says she normally wouldn’t have said yes to going, being that above girl and her don’t get along. They’re both alpha women, so they butt heads. She also says she felt like she handed that alpha making decision off to me, which she absolutely does not do, so weird by her standards. We get to the alley and buy our shoes. What everyone failed to take into account was there were more people bowling than they had paid for. 9 bowlers and 8 slots. Guess who was the 9th? lol. It was a guys against girls game. The guys gave me a lot more room, a bubble of sorts. I sat on one side, which the women ended up sitting by and the men on the other. The men weren’t particularly chatty with me. When I pointed out the extra man thing out, one guy apologized profusely and said I could take his slot. I declined and went up to the counter to get a refund. I walked up, told them the story. At first, they were hesitant. I told them look, my friends goofed and I’m not getting to play, I’d like a refund. They kept trying to say hey, your friends aren’t at that lane but another lane. Which annoyed me. “look, I know which lane my friends are at, all you have to do is go over there.” So they switched tactics to “well, 8 people paid, how can there be 9 people?” 5 minutes in and I’m ticked off. I mean, I became demanding, abrasive and just very alpha. “Look, 9 people paid, 8 people are playing. If you screwed up and someone didn’t pay, that’s not my problem, it’s yours. All I know is I paid, and I’m not playing right now am I?!” And I just kept saying that, each time more forceful and sternly. I gave the guy, his manager, and anyone else behind the counter a deep glare. Almost predatory, like if you don’t do this, I will hurt you. They hushed up and chatted amongst themselves, pointing to my friends. They eventually gave me back my money, like it wasn’t worth the hassle and didn’t say a word at all. I walk back and watch them play for a bit and we all called it a night. The rest is a bit fuzzy, other than electra wanting to sit in the car and listen to music for a while. lol. P77 is just strange and the self effects are only now becoming more apparent. Men view me far differently with it on, which makes me wonder what I’m not putting out or how I’m viewed normally. Puts it into perspective. Not the sexual tones it seems other guys have to it, but it has an alpha-top dog feel to it. ---
**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-strange-results-with-p77/51926/2 "2011-08-21T18:24:18Z")
I feel like this actually matches my experiences in a lot of ways. The confidence and alpha aura are similar to what I felt while wearing P77. The sexual tones I experienced may just be related to different physiological makeups. I tend to have a strong libido, so perhaps that was amplified by the P77. I will need to do some more testing on this one. Maybe next order.