# Most sexual? P75 vs P83?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 29, 2016, 9:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-sexual-p75-vs-p83/66236 "2016-07-29T09:17:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![billo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@billo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/billo)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 9:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-sexual-p75-vs-p83/66236/1 "2016-07-29T09:17:27Z")

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What do say is the most sexual? P75 vs P83?

Second question: which combo is most sexual? Which combo do you prefer? Here are some suggestions:

1. P75 + TuTH + ammo
2. P83 + TuTH + summer ammo
3. P74 + TuTH + [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)  
4)???

It seems a small doser of P96 helps a bit?

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**Author:** ![Spectrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Spectrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spectrum)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 2:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-sexual-p75-vs-p83/66236/2 "2016-07-30T14:46:43Z")

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In my opinion, heavy sexual can backfire you in some cases.  
Many Females needs relaxation first then they become physically comfortable.

P75 is more of alpha vibe , serious vibe.  
While P83 leads to inhibition . P96 adds emotional touch .

If you still want to choose sexual most combo of above then i will go with P83 TUTH and Ammo.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-sexual-p75-vs-p83/66236/3 "2016-07-30T17:17:47Z")

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Neither are particular sexuals IME.

P75 is more of a masculine, which can of course be **extremely** sexual to some women but that’s not a given. It is also very useful alternative to an overt sexual around women who can be less positively responsive to Androstenone - notably Asians and younger women, in small doses and/or with a good social moderator.

[P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is more of a disinhibitor rather than a sexual IME - although again, a bit of let-go disinhibition can be rather sexy to some. More P83 lends its properties to any kind of mix you use it with - be that playful, social or sexual. IME The effective dose increases with the overtness of the sexual element in particular and is not greatly affected by age. P83 has also suffered from gross and indiscriminate over-reporting of its properties in the past, so take some of the claims for it here with a pinch of salt - but yes it is a very useful phero nonetheless.

P96 IME does for the emotions something like P83 does for physical disinhibition and its bonding properties are just flaming superb, right across the age ranges. So they do go very well together in a mix.

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**Author:** ![billo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@billo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/billo)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 2:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-sexual-p75-vs-p83/66236/4 "2016-08-02T14:13:03Z")

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Mobocaster, thanx for the info. What would you recommend for sexual?

Spectrum, thanx. So different for strangers, than girls i know?

Any other have input?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-sexual-p75-vs-p83/66236/5 "2016-08-03T01:14:40Z")

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All your combos above are viable, depending on woman/girl and situation.

P75 benefits from moderation more than any phero I’ve used - even overt Androstenone like TUTH can be fielded effectively as a standalone but P75 IMO always needs something to knock the hard edges-off.

[Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) would be good, as would P74 as they will give balance and in P74’s case, emotional connection. TUTH/P74 has done surprisingly well for me before - just keep the P74 element below 30mcg to stop it from being too “just friendly”

P96 also helps make an overt product more tasty, P83 less so but it can help swing the result your way with its other properties.

Maybe regard Ammo or Summer Ammo as your first-line sexual and TUTH as your second - Add it-in as the atmosphere/interaction gets more raunchy, eg when going to a club.

Also spend some time finding your sweet spot with P96 - IME its dose doesn’t change much once you have found it, regardless of the rest of the mix.

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**Author:** ![billo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@billo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/billo)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 8:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-sexual-p75-vs-p83/66236/6 "2016-08-08T08:40:21Z")

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Mobocaster, do you have suggestions on other combos?

I am leaning to use ammo + TuTH + p83 + p96. Do you think it would be good, or what would you change?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-sexual-p75-vs-p83/66236/7 "2016-08-08T12:51:33Z")

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That’s an excellent and widely usable combo.

I would treat Ammo/P96/P83 as your base mix and start-off with that - Adding more TUTH and P83 as the situation requires. 🙂

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**Author:** ![billo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@billo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/billo)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 9:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-sexual-p75-vs-p83/66236/8 "2016-08-11T09:10:47Z")

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Thanx, you are the man! 🙂

What proportions do you use? 2 parts ammo, 1 part p96, …? I know this is individual, but what are your proportions?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-sexual-p75-vs-p83/66236/9 "2016-08-11T09:41:06Z")

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I tend to use 2 sprays Heavy Ammo as a starting point but that is largely because of my age. A younger guy would probably need less. A spray or two of TUTH could then be added in a more sexual environment and the same again if needed when things begin to get very sexual.

P96 - sweet spot for me is @25mcg and I rarely need to vary that.

P83 - Start with 30-40mcg, then go to 50-80mcg as the TUTH is added. Little advantage in going over 80mcg IMO.
