# Musings about pheromones

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-about-pheromones/54065>\
**Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\
**Created:** [January 4, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-about-pheromones/54065 "2012-01-04T16:22:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![okyoureabeast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/okyoureabeast/32/1395_2.png) [@okyoureabeast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/okyoureabeast)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-about-pheromones/54065/1 "2012-01-04T16:22:23Z")

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I was pondering to myself last night as I was cooking dinner what all of these [pheromones](https://a314.com/) mean to us.

Lets be real, I’m a 6ft tall guy wearing roughly 165lbs. Skinny, but still a comfortably fit guy.

I was thinking to myself all of the guys I know in my life that are successful with women and they all have one thing relatively in common. They work out daily.

Now, I do the same but it’s more cardio oriented and less strength training. I like the rush of running and being fit.

But still, before I discovered pheromones I thought to myself, “What am I doing wrong in my flirting?”

Mind you flirting and game is a comfortable thing of mine. I knew all of the basics before I discovered the PUA game by effective trial and error but something was still missing.

Now that I’ve started wearing a314 and even IJ I have noticed an almost subtle change to my personality as well as interactions with other people around me. The calmness and calculated demeanor that I’ve seen in my other friends I’ve started getting myself.

I don’t believe mones give you an extra 10% edge. They do much more and from my own interactions and even discussions with my girlfriend (who also wears pheromones) to my dad (almost 60 single) is that they work almost way too well. You just have to learn how to be congruent or in my eyes a really good actor to make the effect of the subconscious real.

Now this is the real question: Is using a product that has heavy amounts of -none in it effectively getting all of the personal, mental, and social effects of working out … without actually going to the gym? As well as upping the social swag of being an excellent flirt subconsciously?

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**Author:** ![jman66044](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@jman66044](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jman66044)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-about-pheromones/54065/2 "2012-01-13T19:40:00Z")

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In response to your musings, I believe that there is some validity to your notions. But in terms of clarification, are you referring to individuals who work out (assuming weights) who weigh in at about 185 lbs at 6’? If so, have you noticed their post workout habits? Typically they do sweat, but not nearly as much as someone who jogged or ran for a thirty to forty-five minutes. I believe that the increased sweating dilutes the natural pheromones of the body.

To this extent, I also feel that those who tend to jog or run with bathe after their workout, whereas individuals who lift weights may not, as they do not believe themselves as dirty, or in this case sweaty. Furthermore, I feel the dilution of pheromones aside, that the actual form of workout may have a direct implication on what the body will produce in terms of chemistry. As a jogger/runner you would not create as much muscle as a weightlifter would. In this regard the benefits may also be psychological.