# Musings on MX292 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 11, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981 "2009-02-11T17:44:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/201 "2009-03-20T22:32:11Z")
Hmmm, interesting. Hopefully you can continue with this some more, so we can get to the bottom of it if possible. Any other changes in application or anything else that might have caused this besides what you posted? You think it just might have been just a general bad pheromone day? > [@marty](#): > > True. But I was feeling pretty GOOD going into the night. I was all pumped, but then it was like something was sucking the life out of me. And the weirdness was in the way some people acted towards me, like they were in too much of a hurry to chat, and some of these were usually people who reacted very strongly to MX292 usually, but others didn’t seem bothered at all. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/202 "2009-03-21T00:08:08Z")
It’s possible I just had a bad day. The only new bit was MX272 which I had used before, but not to stellar results (personally, I think MX273 was the winner of that series). I was fairly clean. Fresh shower, hadn’t worn pheros for a few days, feeling excited to have gotten through an intense busy spot of the year. I think I really need to step back to the basics for a bit and try to re-evaluate some of the simpler mixes. So I’m gonna go back to some of the consumers that I haven’t used in a long while to get some clues. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/203 "2009-03-21T01:55:09Z")
Yeah, I still have more to test on MX272 before I put up my review. However, so far it just seemed to make me happy or boost my attitude. So far regarding others I haven’t tried it enough yet to finally speak my mind on that, so I have to test it more on that. > [@marty](#): > > It’s possible I just had a bad day. The only new bit was MX272 which I had used before, but not to stellar results (personally, I think MX273 was the winner of that series). > > I was fairly clean. Fresh shower, hadn’t worn pheros for a few days, feeling excited to have gotten through an intense busy spot of the year. > I think I really need to step back to the basics for a bit and try to re-evaluate some of the simpler mixes. > > So I’m gonna go back to some of the consumers that I haven’t used in a long while to get some clues. ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/204 "2009-03-21T06:28:18Z")
I think mix272= good times It’s great for a night out with friends from my few tests. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/205 "2009-03-23T05:53:56Z")
Has anyone noticed that after long term use of MX292 you can more easily use more “raw” and “blunt” -none mixes with less ill effect? For example, have you noticed a greater immunity to the irritability and negativity of -none in a simpler mix such as TUTH or Ammo or [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/)? ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/206 "2009-03-23T06:41:36Z")
> [@SoulCreator](#): > > If I am not mistaken one of the main reasons Androtics keeps and moderates the pherotalk forum is so that it can function as a research and testing medium so that they could “advance the science” as Steve puts it, and so that they can have feedback provided as to what mixes may potentially be be viable in the consumer line. > > So in the name of science it would be foolish to dismiss a whole series of variables because it may not support your original hypotheses, ie that this mix will do well with men and only men. > > What I’m trying to say is who ever neg repped you is has little regard and or understanding of the scientific method. Who knows, MX292 may be absolutely amazing for you, or not… The only way to find out is to experiment! Definitely! You know, I’ve found many lesbian acquaintances to be almost over-the-top aggressive with other women. It always fascinates me how some lesbians talk about men being pigs, and then proceed to approach other women in ways that I’ve never, ever seen any normal man perform. 😮 It’s really quite something… but it seems to work… there’s less resistance (or fear) woman to woman, perhaps. Anyway, MX292, or any -none mix for that matter, is quite aggressive. It could very well work in a female homosexual social context. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/207 "2009-03-23T06:47:12Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > Holy Sh\*t, MX272 is in the store. There goes another $28.97. This is an expensive lifestyle, but I couldn’t be happier. 272 is the social shiz nit That doesn’t seem right. You have a lot of posts here. Your costs should be much lower than what non-reporting folks see. Get yourself on the Reporting Pheromone Detectives list, and reap the rewards of being a reporting (sharing & caring and all that funny sounding, yet good stuff 🙂) member of the community. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 7:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/208 "2009-03-23T07:00:10Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > I seldom try to guess ingredients and kudos to those who can sort them out. > > I do know that Steve said Jasmin said it would not be widely available in the future if at all as it was so expensive to make. The impression I got from the conversation was that it had a lot of ingredients but i ciould have misinterpreted. And he indicated it does have none in it. If it worked, we’d put it into production, regardless of initial costs. Long term (6 months to a few years), we can invest in what’s called “process development”. This drives our own costs down, and ultimately creates actual commercial viability. Our new policy, is to keep the very best MX in production for a particular social outcome, until a new MX or commercial product is released that delivers that outcome more efficiently. So, i.e., we’ll keep MX292 in production until something better delivers the benefits of this mix. I was tired of seeing so many people bummed out that this or that was not in production any longer. Unhappiness is not the outcome I’m looking for in this community (or any community, really!) While we don’t have the space or financial resources to keep every single MX in production, we’ll do what we can to make sure as many needs as possible are fulfilled here. ---
**Author:** ![farmergiles](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/farmergiles/32/358_2.png) [@farmergiles](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/farmergiles)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 10:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/209 "2009-03-23T10:32:35Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > If it worked, we’d put it into production, regardless of initial costs. > > So, i.e., we’ll keep MX292 in production until something better delivers the benefits of this mix. > > I was tired of seeing so many people bummed out that this or that was not in production any longer. Unhappiness is not the outcome I’m looking for in this community (or any community, really!) > > While we don’t have the space or financial resources to keep every single MX in production, we’ll do what we can to make sure as many needs as possible are fulfilled here. My wish is that you would get MX292 back in stock - preferably in a 30 ml bottle 😃 I bought [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) in that bottle size despite the cost and would do the same again! Great comment MHarris, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 10:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/210 "2009-03-23T10:42:25Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > If it worked, we’d put it into production, regardless of initial costs. Long term (6 months to a few years), we can invest in what’s called “process development”. This drives our own costs down, and ultimately creates actual commercial viability. > > Our new policy, is to keep the very best MX in production for a particular social outcome, until a new MX or commercial product is released that delivers that outcome more efficiently. > > So, i.e., we’ll keep MX292 in production until something better delivers the benefits of this mix. > > I was tired of seeing so many people bummed out that this or that was not in production any longer. Unhappiness is not the outcome I’m looking for in this community (or any community, really!) > > While we don’t have the space or financial resources to keep every single MX in production, we’ll do what we can to make sure as many needs as possible are fulfilled here. Hey MHarris very promising indeed and this is a huge plus in my book! 🙂🙂🙂 Also great to see you posting on the boards! ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/211 "2009-03-23T18:11:42Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > If it worked, we’d put it into production, regardless of initial costs. Long term (6 months to a few years), we can invest in what’s called “process development”. This drives our own costs down, and ultimately creates actual commercial viability. > > Our new policy, is to keep the very best MX in production for a particular social outcome, until a new MX or commercial product is released that delivers that outcome more efficiently. Most excellent. While I’m not sure it met the original product spec you were going for (Jasmin mentioned this being a pherobomb test) this product produces fantastic results. It seems to very rapidly and efficiently change people’s entire outlook of you for the better. It’s like it exposes a good side of you that people didn’t notice before, and repeated uses seem to deeply ingrain this effect as well. For example, I’ve had one girl who was always very negative to me completely change her attitude towards me to friendly and nice. It’s sexual, but not blunt, and seems to have a dramatic boost in social standing that is quite unlike what you’d see out of a -rone product. It’s not really a direct “social” effect, but more like a complete and total self assurance of yourself combined with a movie star sort of sheen that draws people in and leads to an increased social effect. It’s like you are projecting a vibe that you are better than everyone else, but not “ABOVE” everyone else. Rather than pushing people away, it draws them in, and quite obviously at that. The alpha effect definitely comes from the -none content, but it’s surprising that the other molecules can so completely suppress the negativity associated with it. I only wish I could make a further guess as to what causes the effect. I’m still stuck at -none + P86, and I don’t yet have any concrete evidence of what else it may be (maybe it’s nothing at all). While we’ve got your attention, Mr. Harris, do you think you can offer any hints? ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/212 "2009-03-23T21:42:03Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > That doesn’t seem right. You have a lot of posts here. Your costs should be much lower than what non-reporting folks see. > > Get yourself on the Reporting Pheromone Detectives list, and reap the rewards of being a reporting (sharing & caring and all that funny sounding, yet good stuff 🙂) member of the community. How do I go about doing that? Getting on the list that is. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/213 "2009-03-23T21:47:35Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > How do I go about doing that? Getting on the list that is. > [@Your profile has been modified: What it all means](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/your-profile-has-been-modified-what-it-all-means/10626): > > Hello to the most amazing friends on a forum a guy could have. Let me just tell you it’s been a pleasure to be a part of this group. There are so many cool people I get to talk to everyday here on the forum, email and by phone. Lately we have had a slew of more incredible people joining us and sharing experiences about their [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) use. I always find it inspiring to hear another person’s story especially when it’s right along the same lines of an experience I have had. What better way to bui… This thing seems to have evolved somewhat so best read the whole thread. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/214 "2009-03-30T16:02:03Z")
Ok, so I guess I only took a week off, but I think I’m pretty refreshed. I ran a test of 2x MX306 last night, and I think that might be a bit too much -none for me. So I had the idea of spraying ~40mcg of P86 (3 spays of 12.5mcg) on top with the idea of testing whether it tames the -none. My tests aren’t very conclusive, but in the end, I’d have to say “maybe just a little bit.” How does this relate to MX292? Well, it means that while P86 is definitely enhancing the 292 experience, it is not working as the primary buffer solely in itself. Something else must be carrying the load. ---
**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/215 "2009-03-30T19:02:56Z")
> [@marty](#): > > True. But I was feeling pretty GOOD going into the night. I was all pumped, but then it was like something was sucking the life out of me. And the weirdness was in the way some people acted towards me, like they were in too much of a hurry to chat, and some of these were usually people who reacted very strongly to MX292 usually, but others didn’t seem bothered at all. From time to time P86 affected me the way you just mentioned. That mostly happens when I’m too tired, usually when I don’t get enough sleep. Those effects are similar to burnouts. I suppose that’s due to the cognitive boost effects P86 has on your mind. Too much focus that P86 gives you, and _poof_ you are too tired. First couple of times I tried MX292, I had problems sleeping. I felt like I was too drunk, I had a bad sleep and felt too tired when I woke up. I suppose that’s too due to long time exposure to -none and p86 (I didn’t take a shower before going to bed). Anyway, you might have faced -none -OD, despite the buffers MX292 has. But, that’s just my two cents… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/216 "2009-03-30T23:27:02Z")
First things first… 😉 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) > [@deeddy](#): > > From time to time P86 affected me the way you just mentioned. That mostly happens when I’m too tired, usually when I don’t get enough sleep. Those effects are similar to burnouts. I suppose that’s due to the cognitive boost effects P86 has on your mind. Too much focus that P86 gives you, and _poof_ you are too tired. > > First couple of times I tried MX292, I had problems sleeping. I felt like I was too drunk, I had a bad sleep and felt too tired when I woke up. I suppose that’s too due to long time exposure to -none and p86 (I didn’t take a shower before going to bed). > > Anyway, you might have faced -none -OD, despite the buffers MX292 has. But, that’s just my two cents… 🙂 I sleep like a baby after a night of MX292. Almost over do it actually. And that time definitely wasn’t a typical -none OD. It was more “flighty” and less aggressive like “I’d rather be anywhere but here”. Whereas on me a -none OD is a different sort of anxiety, one that is irritable and easy to anger and more aggressive. ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/217 "2009-03-30T23:43:07Z")
> [@marty](#): > > First things first… 😉 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) > > I sleep like a baby after a night of MX292. Almost over do it actually. > And that time definitely wasn’t a typical -none OD. It was more “flighty” and less aggressive like “I’d rather be anywhere but here”. Whereas on me a -none OD is a different sort of anxiety, one that is irritable and easy to anger and more aggressive. I all but pass out. I seem to get pretty tired about 2 hours after applying, then it goes away after 15 min. At the end of the night I am just done. The hangover is usually really bad. Even if I drink alot of water. The worst was the nights I mixed it with 272. It took a long time to recover. Oh, and if you want to sleep like a baby, check the store. ---
**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 5:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/218 "2009-03-31T05:28:49Z")
I need to correct myself. I thought P86 was giving me those burnouts, but now I’m not so sure. I think it’s something that increases visual focus and makes me feel exhausting after awhile. When using MX292 I start noticing less important things around me I don’t normally see (the visual aspect). What could this be? ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/219 "2009-03-31T05:41:05Z")
P86 is definitely visual. It also can burn you out, but I think I’m getting used to it. you’ve got the right idea though. ---
**Author:** ![chasm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chasm/32/2121_2.png) [@chasm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chasm)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/220 "2009-03-31T22:46:37Z")
hey. what kind of dosages do you guys use for P86. I’ve been testing it, getting some of the feel good effects, but nothing really on the visual front. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981.md?page=10) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981.md?page=12)