# Musings on MX292 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 11, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981 "2009-02-11T17:44:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/101 "2009-02-22T02:17:59Z")
hey Diane. Jas did not say “No socials” just that they weren’t as prevalent as many people think. Also, isn’t TAA a big social? (: ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/102 "2009-02-22T02:20:29Z")
> [@marty](#): > > hey Diane. Jas did not say “No socials” just that they weren’t as prevalent as many people think. Also, isn’t TAA a big social? (: Hmmm… I wouldn’t classify it that way, but I don’t know if Jasmine would or not. The effects on me are very similar to LSD - giggly and shiny. What Jasmine said was that she was surprised at all the guesses about Alpha Androstenol, and the talky responses to the mix. She said she wouldn’t have expected that result given the ingredients (paraphrasing, maybe badly). Diane ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/103 "2009-02-22T02:23:26Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > Hmmm… I wouldn’t classify it that way, but I don’t know if Jasmine would or not. The effects on me are very similar to LSD - giggly and shiny. > > Diane Giggly and shiny? Hm, I get that from P103, so maybe that may be another putative that might be in MX292? ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/104 "2009-02-22T02:28:46Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Giggly and shiny? Hm, I get that from P103, so maybe that may be another putative that might be in MX292? You get “shiny” visual effects from P103? Diane ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/105 "2009-02-22T02:36:11Z")
p90, IH and maybe a type of IFM or A1 style product. when she says social she means a-nol style, [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/), spaceland etc. its more on a serious level, as it causes people to come in close for comfort. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/106 "2009-02-22T02:45:54Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > You get “shiny” visual effects from P103? > > Diane Yep, odd I know considering I call it “liquid courage” in a spray. Its effects on me are a slight buzzed vision, but yet with a slight sense of clarity while making me feel good, as good as you would feel with a slight liquor buzz. Makes me feel like just being able to speak my mind, and some of my shyness go away. This topped on top of -none, and Spaceland (or IO and IH) really makes me feel good and confident. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/107 "2009-02-22T02:48:50Z")
Hmm. this visual shiny aspect was what clued me into the presence of P86. I haven’t given P103 much of a go, but isn’t it described as giving the user a sort of drunken buzz feeling? ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/108 "2009-02-22T02:54:56Z")
> [@marty](#): > > WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY? cmmmmooooon, give me science! sorry Marty, it’s not an eaxct science in my head. I am no MHarris! Regardless, this is just an attempt to get more advanced users to play and maybe prompt Jas to publish the formula soon. I doubt it will be a simple mix like Diane suggested. As Jas mentioned, even though the initial idea was to keep it simple, Michael end up creating a symphonic mix. My logic follows: -None : 6.25 mcg/spray 😛: 3 sprays would be close to 20 mcg, which is the hard hitting -none limit, provided its suffciiently buffered (Pheroproof has 6.25 mcg/spray: ideal dose 2.5 to 3 sprays, NPA is 18 mcg/drop, TE is 15 mcg/spray, PI is 18 mcg/drop, Androtics is conservative with -none and Jas says this has high -none) TAF: 10 mcg/spray (strong attention grabbing effects at 20 mcg +, there is a slight chance it has equal dose of P79 as well, but I didn’t include P79 because it’s still slightly unpredictable for many users as they only seem to get focus and intensifying effects with it 🙄) TAA: 5 mcg/spray (bright, fun) Bnol: 5 mcg/spray (has to be) Anol: 2.5 mcg/spray (has to be, indispensable buffer) P86: 5 mcg/spray (light, fun, visual) P96: 5 mcg/spray (new molecule, calming, attractive effects, no self experience, from reports only) P103: 5 mcg/spray (TAA like, this I am not sure but we can say that its either this or TAA) [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/): 2.5 mcg/spray (maybe for slight aggressive edge, but I would remove it on second thought for possible abreaction when combined with -none) P74: 10 mcg/spray (social effects for many users, could be higher dosage) MEO-EST: 5 mcg/spray (interesting sexual molecule, not very sure about the dosage, could be higher than 5 mcg, but that might be cost prohibitive, and could be effective at smaller dosage in a symphonic mix) ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/109 "2009-02-22T02:57:29Z")
> [@marty](#): > > Hmm. this visual shiny aspect was what clued me into the presence of P86. I haven’t given P103 much of a go, but isn’t it described as giving the user a sort of drunken buzz feeling? Yeah, as I mentioned at least with me I felt both effects (a slight buzz but yet with a strange boost in vision clarity.) Everyone is different, so who knows? That’s the interesting thing about pheromones, it affects us each differently to a certain extent. “Life is like a bottle of MX777, you never know what you’re going to get.” ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/110 "2009-02-22T02:59:46Z")
from my understanding there is no -none in the product. id say something sexual and safe like P79 with maybe p83 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/111 "2009-02-22T03:03:58Z")
> [@examine](#): > > from my understanding there is no -none in the product. id say something sexual and safe like P79 with maybe p83 There is -none in it if I remember correctly. From this quoted Jasmin post. > [@renny](#): > > MX272 has -none? Most interesting. > [@Jasmin](#): > > Not that I recall, but it’s been awhile. It could have a teeny bit. > > I thought he said MX292 (since that’s all I’ve been reading about lately), which has a good bit of it. Oops! My mistake. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/112 "2009-02-22T03:04:57Z")
> [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](#): > > Jessejester, > > Erm.. The shot to the face. What’s it feel like ? i havent done any of it cos my country is humid and one tends to sweat easily. Do u have problems when u sweat ? what’s it like. Just like to get some info abt spraying phero on face. Thanks. IS on your face stings at first, and you got keep your eyes closed for a second or two or the alcohol stings your eyes a bit. I put it there because it really amps up the self effect. I really don’t know about the sweating though. I live in a humid environment, but when I wear it I am usually going to a place that is air conditioned, so im not sure. Sorry I cant help more. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/113 "2009-02-22T03:09:42Z")
Oh, and another -none confirmation here as well. > [@Jasmin](#): > > Yes, unless I’m absolutely batty and am under road hypnosis, it has both androstenone and p86. What it doesn’t have is much of anything normally considered social, especially to the extent guessed by many. > > I’d love to see more quality theories and guesses before I post it. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/114 "2009-02-22T03:12:01Z")
hmmm interesting. wonder why no OD. Im half scandanavian, half african american. viking blood with african american blood tends to freak people out. there must be some mighty buffers in it. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/115 "2009-02-22T03:20:00Z")
> [@examine](#): > > hmmm interesting. wonder why no OD. Im half scandanavian, half african american. viking blood with african american blood tends to freak people out. there must be some mighty buffers in it. That’s the thing, no one should be afraid of -none as it is easily tamed unless it REALLY affects you. Whoever made this mix really knew how to blend everything in perfect harmony like the way you would harmonize musical notes on an instrument. Think of it as notes forming a beautiful sounding chord, or a nice harmonized lead guitar solo. If blended well, it will sound well. Just like whatever is in this MX292 works so well; each ingredient plays off of each other very nicely and in conjunction with its harmony. Also think of it like the way a perfumer blends in the top notes, middle notes, and base notes in a beautiful fragrance. It’s an art form. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/116 "2009-02-22T03:23:29Z")
_logs back in_wait. wait a min. this might explain why less sprays work better for me. 1 1/2 - 2 sprays worked waayyy better than 3-4 sprays. the only -nones ive been able to wear are the old school T series from 3 years ago that had MASSIVE buffers. My natural output wont allow me to wear over 5 mgs of -none EVEN with buffers. I see what happened there. anyways. time to hit the showers. wish me luck cause Im gonna put some moves on this girl hehe =P ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/117 "2009-02-22T03:34:02Z")
> [@examine](#): > > _logs back in_wait. wait a min. this might explain why less sprays work better for me. 1 1/2 - 2 sprays worked waayyy better than 3-4 sprays. > > My natural output wont allow me to wear over 5 mgs of -none EVEN with buffers. I see what happened there. My best results have also been around 2x, with a 3rd as a booster 4hrs later. As far as what you said about the -none, I think I read in a post that the speculation is there is over 10mgs of -none per spray.? ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 3:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/118 "2009-02-22T03:35:03Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > That’s the thing, no one should be afraid of -none as it is easily tamed unless it REALLY affects you. > > Whoever made this mix really knew how to blend everything in perfect harmony like the way you would harmonize musical notes on an instrument. Think of it as notes forming a beautiful sounding chord, or a nice harmonized lead guitar solo. If blended well, it will sound well. Just like whatever is in this MX292 works so well; each ingredient plays off of each other very nicely and in conjunction with its harmony. > > Also think of it like the way a perfumer blends in the top notes, middle notes, and base notes in a beautiful fragrance. It’s an art form. I did OD with this, but I wore 6 sprays directly beneath my chin. Even with that it wasn’t as bad of a reaction as I’ve had with far less Androstenone. Diane ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/119 "2009-02-22T03:42:50Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > I did OD with this, but I wore 6 sprays directly beneath my chin. Even with that it wasn’t as bad of a reaction as I’ve had with far less Androstenone. > > Diane Well, eventually you will OD if you over spray but why would someone over spray once they find they’re sweet spot and are comfortable at that dose? However, I wonder if you would have felt better just by adding a spray of Spaceland (or any type of nol.) Wow, how did you handle all that Game scent Diane? I mean, I can see a girl pulling it off, but with my usual spray of 4 sprays the smell is pretty strong. Well, a decent strength. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/120 "2009-02-22T04:54:52Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Well, eventually you will OD if you over spray but why would someone over spray once they find they’re sweet spot and are comfortable at that dose? However, I wonder if you would have felt better just by adding a spray of Spaceland (or any type of nol.) > > Wow, how did you handle all that Game scent Diane? I mean, I can see a girl pulling it off, but with my usual spray of 4 sprays the smell is pretty strong. Well, a decent strength. I was trying to OD intentionally, sounds dumb, but it is the best way for me to try to figure out what is in a mix. I guessed there was either TAA or P86 in it because at this dosage I got the bright visuals. I also got some compulsive, tic-like movement that is reminiscent of TAC OD. That hasn’t been confirmed or denied yet. I missed the Androstenone, because the -none OD reaction was so slight and not severe. I usually end up with rock hard neck and shoulders and an anxiety attack with -none OD. I got some stiffness in my neck and shoulders, but no anxiety attack. I think the P86 is an excellent buffer for Androstenone. I loved the Game scent. I couldn’t keep my nose out of my own cleavage…haha. I know a lot of guys loathe the smell of Game, but, trust me, it is a chick magnet all on its own. Diane [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981.md?page=5) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981.md?page=7)