# Musings on MX292 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 11, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981 "2009-02-11T17:44:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![KatieA](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/katiea/32/1225_2.png) [@KatieA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KatieA)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/141 "2009-02-24T17:13:09Z")
Aww, that’s so sweet! :o Thank you, you didn’t have to do that, I just felt stabbed and was upset was all. Just the thought that you did/said that warms me up. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/8/83f8fb1595eb3a93c19a43475854028985ffdde2.gif) My hero. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/142 "2009-02-24T20:42:00Z")
> [@KatieA](#): > > So, does anyone just want Jasmine to tell us the mix and publish it already? ☹ > > Though, this whole mystery detective thing is actually really fun, haha. > > EDIT: Aww. Whoever repped me down saying “It’s for men”, you are quite the ignorant one. Im a bisexual female with a bisexual target female.. Therefore I am going for products that are more for men. If you’d read my journal, you’d see I am trying hard to experiment to find out what is most unknown: Homosexual phero mixes. > > I am slightly confused on how somehow could rep me down just for that. =/ Repped! Don’t worry Katie, do what YOU want to do. You’d probably help out a lot of BI people in return! ---
**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/143 "2009-02-24T21:06:34Z")
> [@KatieA](#): > > So, does anyone just want Jasmine to tell us the mix and publish it already? ☹ yeeeeeeesssss pullleeeaaaseee~ ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/144 "2009-02-24T22:55:06Z")
> [@KatieA](#): > > Aww, that’s so sweet! :o Thank you, you didn’t have to do that, I just felt stabbed and was upset was all. Just the thought that you did/said that warms me up. > > [http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll275/jezka22/Glomp\_Emoticon.gif](http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll275/jezka22/Glomp_Emoticon.gif) > > My hero. 😉 Just so you know, if it was a blue instead of green rep dot, then that is just someone repping you who doesn’t have much rep power. Red dots are negative reps. Diane ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/145 "2009-02-24T22:56:34Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > Just so you know, if it was a blue instead of green rep dot, then that is just someone repping you who doesn’t have much rep power. Red dots are negative reps. > > Diane Oh, yeah! Forgot to mention that! Thanks Ms. D. ---
**Author:** ![SoulCreator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/soulcreator/32/236_2.png) [@SoulCreator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SoulCreator)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/146 "2009-02-25T00:57:39Z")
> [@KatieA](#): > > EDIT: Aww. Whoever repped me down saying “It’s for men”, you are quite the ignorant one. Im a bisexual female with a bisexual target female.. Therefore I am going for products that are more for men. If you’d read my journal, you’d see I am trying hard to experiment to find out what is most unknown: Homosexual phero mixes. If I am not mistaken one of the main reasons Androtics keeps and moderates the pherotalk forum is so that it can function as a research and testing medium so that they could “advance the science” as Steve puts it, and so that they can have feedback provided as to what mixes may potentially be be viable in the consumer line. So in the name of science it would be foolish to dismiss a whole series of variables because it may not support your original hypotheses, ie that this mix will do well with men and only men. What I’m trying to say is who ever neg repped you is has little regard and or understanding of the scientific method. Who knows, MX292 may be absolutely amazing for you, or not… The only way to find out is to experiment! ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/147 "2009-02-25T01:02:19Z")
Can’t wait for your report on MX292 Katie! ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/148 "2009-02-26T15:18:51Z")
i cant wait to hear what Katie has to say about it as well. im thinking of ordering it just because i have tried Ammo (omg dont get me started) and had good experiences with that. i will prolly end up spraying every man i know with it, but c’mon its MX292. have to try it myself. P86 has been nothing but good so far, the biggest drawback is that i want to nap after 20mu of it. ---
**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/149 "2009-03-07T20:21:39Z")
any news about the formula? ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/150 "2009-03-08T02:41:26Z")
Mmm. MX292. With you in town, there is no reason to be afraid of androstenone anymore. Last night I wore a spray of double strength TUTH like it was nothing. This bottle has given me a bit more courage to try some edgier mixes. My next big experiment is going to be MX292 + [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) (once it arrives). Man, to think I used to hate on -none. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/151 "2009-03-08T04:10:47Z")
You go brother! _Raises fist._ -None is nothing to be afraid of once you get that molecule down. > [@marty](#): > > Mmm. MX292. > > With you in town, there is no reason to be afraid of androstenone anymore. Last night I wore a spray of double strength TUTH like it was nothing. > > This bottle has given me a bit more courage to try some edgier mixes. My next big experiment is going to be MX292 + Instant Jerk (once it arrives). > > Man, to think I used to hate on -none. ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/152 "2009-03-08T13:26:43Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > The mix I tried on both nights was: 2 ammo, 2 Instant Shine, 40mcg of p86 and 10mcg of p79. try it. AMAZING hits. Tse, took me a whole week to see this post… Thanks for your insights on P86 - it’s definitely in my next order! Did you try this mix you’ve mentioned with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) instead of P86? I can remember that MadTater loved this combination and wrote a lot about it in his journal… Might be worth a try! ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/153 "2009-03-10T04:59:02Z")
My guess… -none P86 MEO-EST TAK Unknown dosage. ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/154 "2009-03-10T17:07:38Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > My guess… > > -none > P86 > **MEO-EST** > TAK > > Unknown dosage. I think Jas said somewhere in this thread that meo-est was not in it, but I think someone said they thought est alone was in it. I have to **guess** that there is some type of putative amplifier in here. I have no expierience with the p series,(cant really afford them at $28 a pop at this point) but I have read that some of the p’s amplify what you are already wearing. I think it was p79 and p101 I read about. The hits from this mix are so in your face, that I think its a possablity. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/155 "2009-03-10T18:04:41Z")
Other way around, if I recall correctly. I believe it was stated that EST is not in it (due to the patent that surrounds it), but I don’t recall if anything was said about MEO-est ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/156 "2009-03-11T03:59:30Z")
> [@marty](#): > > Other way around, if I recall correctly. I believe it was stated that EST is not in it (due to the patent that surrounds it), but I don’t recall if anything was said about MEO-est Below is the post I was referring to. I must have read it wrong. Sorry everyone, especially you Tigerlilly. > [@Robbie](#): > > I’ve been wondering if another ingredient is actually EST (not MEO-EST). Both EST and MX292 showed up _and_ disappeared at nearly the same time frame. > > Call me crazy… > [@Jasmin](#): > > It doesn’t. Just a coincidence. > > I may as well note here due to a quirk of (legal) nature we may actually put American made estratetraenol into mass production within a few months. Straight from the original scientist that synthesized it for the original studies. > > It’s a beautiful feeling molecule that could do the world a lot of good, without many (or any) downsides. Quite unlike androstadienone, which we’re not much interested in (except for finding safer alternatives). It’s like a double edged knife to too many male users (one where the other sharp edge is the handle itself!) I also just re-read the entire thread and realized that people had already mentioned an amplifier being in the mix. So, my bad. Please forgive me ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/157 "2009-03-11T04:25:30Z")
Yep that’s the one I was thinking of. Either way, adding MEO-est to the 292 mix (whether it contains some to begin with or not) seems to bolster the positive effect. I’ve got a few tests I want to run to determine what is the buffer. The main idea would be to start with some NONE and then find out which molecule provides some of the 292 buffering effect. Anyone want to try these ideas out with me is highly encouraged. #1 None (I don’t have raw none, so I will sub in TUTH) + P86. This is to determine the level of buffering provided by P86. We already know that P86 is a major component, and I am curious as to whether or not P86 buffers none, or if it simply provides the visual side to the mix. #2 None + MEO. Meo-est seems to be an interesting molecule that I can’t quite put my finger on yet. Meo seems very nice, even though I can’t really pinpoint why. I think there could be some potential in seeing how that combo works. #3 None + TAK. I’m out of TAK, anyone else want to field this? Not my idea, but TAK has been suggested more than once, so it definitely needs a closer look. Since we also know that MX292 is pretty high in -none, I’m thinking a good test would be to start with about 5mcg (which is likely an OD for me and many others) and add in more of the other molecule as the day goes and see if the OD effect can be counteracted. ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/158 "2009-03-11T04:50:29Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > Sorry everyone, especially you Tigerlilly. No probs! 🙂 What about -none and p75? Very, very low doses of both? I got the meo-est from Katie’s post actually. It’s been dubbed “female happy sauce” and it seemed to have quite that effect on her and her potential girlfriend. They had some -none jitters, and/but there are some indications that Katie is a sensitive responder. But I wonder about the p75 from the recent post about it, re “I’m a Man.” ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/159 "2009-03-11T06:38:20Z")
Based on what tests I have done, there are two distinct effects that interest me: The fact that I can feel what feels like a lot of androstenone (feels like at least 12.5 mcg/3 sprays) and the “masking” effect of what I suspect is either TAK or something very much like it. I can “feel” that there seem to be around 4 molecules in this mix… could be wrong, but this is what I think: most likely 4, possibly as few as 3. The two most powerful appear to be whatever is making me think androstenone and whatever is making me think TAK. Interestingly, I tried a mix recently that felt similar enough to 292 that I was drawing parallels… and that mix had a nice chunk of TAK in it. But the “masking” or negating effect was “softer” in the mix I was trying, although still there. The mix was symphonic, though, so that could be why. A little birdy told me that they think that effect is not being caused by TAK, but my a P-10X molecule. I have no experience with anything above P-93, yet, so who knows… but whatever it is, seems very much like TAK. I disagree with the MEO-EST guesses, as well as the P-75 guesses _so far_. My guess at the moment is a total dosage in 3 sprays of: 12.5 mcg androstenone 25 mcg TAK 40 mcg P-86 5 mcg TAA I’ll keep testing. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981/160 "2009-03-11T15:47:51Z")
Interesting observations as always. I really wish I had some TAK to try out. Based on the very quick uplifting aspect that accompanies the “opening” of the mix, I think you are probably correct in saying that the mix contains a small amount of TAA, or something like it. It definitely seems to be very low in the mix, and doesn’t last as long as the other molecules, but it seems to do good for putting you in the right mindset at least initially. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981.md?page=7) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/musings-on-mx292/25981.md?page=9)