yay I guessed right, it has p86 in it 
. Shame I was wrong about the none and it not having socials. p86 is definitely going to be my next order.
It doesn’t. Just a coincidence.
I may as well note here due to a quirk of (legal) nature we may actually put American made estratetraenol into mass production within a few months. Straight from the original scientist that synthesized it for the original studies.
It’s a beautiful feeling molecule that could do the world a lot of good, without many (or any) downsides. Quite unlike androstadienone, which we’re not much interested in (except for finding safer alternatives). It’s like a double edged knife to too many male users (one where the other sharp edge is the handle itself!)
Maybe, I don’t experience any negative effects from wearing it, and I’m sure that many guys would agree that it’s really beneficial to have available for their wives/girlfriends during that time of the month, or when their are not at their best.
MX272 seems to be an awesome pick-me-upper too though. That time of the month hasn’t rolled back around with the girl I’m seeing since I’ve had MX272, but I am curious to see how well it will work then.
I never found androstadienone much use to be honest never saw many effects at all.
I have yet to buy or test EST maybe in another order in the future I will but from what I understand that is mostly for the ladies
MX272 is great, last time I used it a few months ago had some interesting experiences on the train..i just got a freebie with my last order have not had a chance to use it yet
I get no self effects negative or possitive form androstadienone. Male friends of mine get major bummed out, depressed, angry and uncharacteristly aggresiven. none of this is directed at me though, it just makes them feel bad in general.
I know some guys aren’t affected, Mark, but too many are, and it’s grizzly.
It’s kinda like sucralose. Some people are fine, but others spiral into a serious darkness. (look up “sucralose and depression” on google)
It’s good for the niche crowd, where you have people who read things more thoroughly. Where you can explain possible negative effects, and you actually get heard.
At sites like this, people know the possible dangers. They have the warnings. There’s other people confirming both the positives and negatives. It’s a good, educated crowd. People can use it if they experience no negatives, and avoid if they do. At least they know what’s happening they do feel something unpleasant.
The thing that would be hideously irresonsible, is introducing it to the mass market. (and that’s what I’m talking about with estratetraenol – not just making an analytical quality gram here or there, but putting it into mass production for a larger audience)
Of course, it was sold to the mass market at almost every department store imaginable, and with heavy radio advertising. I never quite thought of it this way before, but I’m sure Erox caused a few suicides – or at least trips to the psychiatrist – which weren’t attributed the product itself.
Negatives are at least convincing, though. I know quite a few people who’s negative experience with androstadienone convinced them that pheromones work, more than any positive experience did.
As one of my mentors says, people will attribute positives to themselves (it’s just miraculous me!), and negatives to outside factors (that damn so and so). It’s a strong bias we always have consider when evaluating data.
All in the name of science, my friend. I wouldn’t want to be around anything that includes androstenone at that time of the month!
Now the day I ovulate… that’s a different story. It’s probably the only day I can really stand the stuff.
MX272 has -none? Most interesting.
too many 2x2 products two-ing up the joint to make it too hard to tell which two you are tooting.
Yep, people aren’t willing to accept negatives or failures as their own fault and will almost always look to lay blame elsewhere.
And I also learned a long time ago that people who are lazy, uninspired, and unmotivated losers will try to drag you down with them, so as not to have to accept responsibility for their failures, because if they can drag everyone around them down to their level they can blame society.
On the other hand, successful, motivated go-getters want to raise you to their level and help you succeed.
This is a surprise to me too, as the results I saw from MX272 suggested to me that it was an extremely social mix and not at all sexual in nature.
Just shows the power of buffers and socials. This is why I always believe that IJ can be tamed.
This is also another way of knowing pheromones work, because it is taming the negative sides of -none. So if pheromones didn’t work, this wouldn’t be noticeable or possible.
So what do we know for sure?
-none?
p86?
taa?
taf?
I am quite inexperienced, but both times I wore this the constant blabbing was a definite. So is it dumb to think it has beta-nol in it?
Only the first two have been confirmed. Anything else is still conjecture at this point.
Currently the idea well has dried up over here, But there will be more 292 testing on my part this weekend. (:
Me too. I only I hope I grab the 292 instead of the 272 this time!!!
I’m reluctant of using my mx292 because I only have about half a bottle left and don’t know if it’s coming back. I’ll use it on valentine’s day, however, and see if I can pinpoint the -none reactions or any other easy to spot pheromone reactions.
Not that I recall, but it’s been awhile. It could have a teeny bit.
I thought he said MX292 (since that’s all I’ve been reading about lately), which has a good bit of it. Oops! My mistake. Sorry.
Our new policy is keep any high interest MXs in stock, unless there’s something better for a particular end-result. MX292 will see at least a few more batches.
We’re also reworking our MX batching process, so we can create bigger batches all at once.
Our current system limits us to 48 bottles a time. That was great when our forum was smaller, but now… oh boy… I’ve been in fear of sending out the weekly newsletter for more than a year now! We could easily fill the forum with out of stock grumbles more than we do testing results. eek!
This is just a tinsy little guess… not having actually tested the mix… but from what I remember
Could it be 'none, P86, P101 and an Amplifier…
I just remember P101 seemed to buffer none well
Cool cool cool. I will keep writing reports on it as long as I can keep getting my hands on it.
There were a couple promising ones I tried (and wrote a few reports about) that went out of stock before I got a chance to give a second bottle a whirl. Often it seems to take more than a single to-go bottle to really get a good grasp on it. If I go dig up which ones I thought had some potential, can I get you to consider giving them a second chance? :o
Right now we seem to have a good group of people who are actively writing reviews, so it might be worth looking into. (:
Sure, I’ll consider it. As long as we have everything in stock for them.
If they’re old enough, we might even need to recissate an old computer system to read the format they’re in. Even with newer ones, some might need to be remade, or modified with what we currently carry.
For example, take the original Ammo fragrance. We approved the new scent minus the IFRA banned chemical, and when our order didn’t come I found out we need to buy almost a tanker of it this time around, instead of a couple of barrels.
I know tons of people love it, but we’re not sure we that’s the best use of our resources at this very second. That’s a lot of juice and a ton of money we could invest in something else. We’ll likely get it again, but after we’re better funded.
Anyway, there’s lots of little things like that that sometimes get in the way of recreating an exact copy of an early mix.
In case you’re wondering about what we ARE investing in, btw, it’s putting molecules (and high quality versions of molecules) such as P96 and TAH into large scale production. There’s a lot of molecules like this that are amazing, but simply too expensive to make into a commercial product. Large batch process development & development helps make things like this a commercial reality.
I want to see the better feeling molecules make their way into more products out there in the real world, and this is the first step.
Even though I’ve always gotten along with people pretty well without pheromones, I can still clearly see how much better life is with certain pheromones. I’ve also seen how some of my social inept friends have transformed over the years with certain molecules.
I know for certain that the more we see exciting and social mones out there in the real world, the better world it’ll be for everyone. You and me, and everyone else in this human sea.