# Mutant ICM .5a with P75... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 3, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutant-icm-5a-with-p75/32969 "2009-10-03T01:23:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutant-icm-5a-with-p75/32969/1 "2009-10-03T01:23:16Z")
**Edit- The title should read .5b not .5a (oops)** **Product name,scent and strength** Steve’s ICM 0.25.05b with [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) replacing the androstenone **Application dosage and locations** 1 spray to each side of neck 1spray split between the tops of the hands P75 was only variable (1.75mcg per spray) **Enviroment tested in.** Restaurant and vehicle **Self effects.** Felt a bit happier and more social **Effects to others** Cheerful, chatty- seemed to see me as someone they could trust (Very social) **Duration of effects.** ~3.5 hours **Effects from mixing with other products.** n/a **Range** ~5’ **Time exposure**. ~5 minutes before affects happened I really liked the affects I’d get from P75 by itself so I figured I would try this in a mix. People were very frlendly, very chatty. My GF was also more affectionate than she’d normally be but not in a ‘RAWR!’ sort of way. It was more like she wanted to snuggle. The waitress was very friendly and I got more refills than I could possibly drink but it was more like I was just such a likeable guy that she wanted to keep coming over. No attraction just a nice guy vibe. NOT what I was expecting from this. When I layer P75 I get a lot of interest from my GF. I also wear this at ~5-7.5mcg. In this composite (If I do it again I will try upping the P75 amount). I noticed that things weren’t what I was hoping for at the restaurant (not that they were bad- just not what I’d intended) so when we went to leave, I snuck a spritz of P75 onto the front of my neck. We got into the car and she started getting much more fidgety and staring at me. More like her normal P75 reaction. Either I under did the amount of P75 in this mix or like Meo-Est it doesn’t composite well for me. I have tried this as a social mix a couple of times now and it is very good for that, however. When I layer more P75 to the mix I get more stares and more interest. I actually may make this one again but up the P75 to at least 2.5 to 3 mcg per spray. I really think the other things buffer it quite strongly. Even upping the P75, however I don’t think will make this any sort of replacement for the original .05b with androstenone. ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutant-icm-5a-with-p75/32969/2 "2009-10-03T01:49:46Z")
Awesome stuff Snoop. Its very close to I have been getting when replacing -none with [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/). Even with 10 mcgs it fails to give that -none edge. But it does give off a heck of drawing, social, grounded, friendly vibe. I look forward to more of these reports. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutant-icm-5a-with-p75/32969/3 "2009-10-03T01:57:16Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > Awesome stuff Snoop. Its very close to I have been getting when replacing -none with P75. Even with 10 mcgs it fails to give that -none edge. But it does give off a heck of drawing, social, grounded, friendly vibe. I look forward to more of these reports. Thanks! I was thinking about it. When I wear Meo-Est, P83 and [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) (replacing my TUTH) around my girlfriend, RAWR! I think the combo makes her feel that much more comfortable as opposed to turning her on that much more. P75 has actually become one of my favorites to layer with things. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutant-icm-5a-with-p75/32969/4 "2009-10-03T12:16:01Z")
Snoopyace-- I can tell you really do like the ICM mixes! Its awesome that you are tweaking the mix and trying to make it even better! I just want to thank you for posting your results. You really help the community here, and inspire me to do more as well! ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutant-icm-5a-with-p75/32969/5 "2009-10-03T18:37:16Z")
> [@andrew88777](#): > > Snoopyace-- I can tell you really do like the ICM mixes! Its awesome that you are tweaking the mix and trying to make it even better! I just want to thank you for posting your results. You really help the community here, and inspire me to do more as well! Thanks, Andrew! 🙂 I am pretty sure that I’m going to do this same mix again with a higher [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) amount because it really is a great social mix with the P75. Next up, trying it with Meo-Est. ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutant-icm-5a-with-p75/32969/6 "2009-10-03T18:54:50Z")
I might be having a brain fart… but what is ICM mix? ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutant-icm-5a-with-p75/32969/7 "2009-10-03T19:02:48Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > Thanks, Andrew! 🙂 > > I am pretty sure that I’m going to do this same mix again with a higher P75 amount because it really is a great social mix with the P75. Next up, trying it with Meo-Est. Have you had any experience with P76? It seems -none like as well. Maybe a lesser amount would also help. Here is a post on mixing I have come across that to me gives awesome advice for mixing. > [@What pheromones do MHarris and Jasmin use?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-mharris-and-jasmin-use/561): > > What [pheromones](https://a314.com/) do MHarris and Jasmin use?:smiley: ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutant-icm-5a-with-p75/32969/8 "2009-10-03T19:04:27Z")
> [@lethalchead](#): > > I might be having a brain fart… but what is ICM mix? Steve’s mix MX301- MX304 ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutant-icm-5a-with-p75/32969/9 "2009-10-03T19:51:47Z")
> [@andrew88777](#): > > Steve’s mix MX301- MX304 ah gotcha, thanks ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutant-icm-5a-with-p75/32969/10 "2009-10-03T21:57:40Z")
> [@andrew88777](#): > > Have you had any experience with P76? It seems -none like as well. Maybe a lesser amount would also help. > > Here is a post on mixing I have come across that to me gives awesome advice for mixing. > > [What pheromones do MHarris and Jasmin use?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-mharris-and-jasmin-use/561) Very interesting! Thanks for sharing that. ---
**Author:** ![reddog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reddog/32/2091_2.png) [@reddog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reddog)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 3:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutant-icm-5a-with-p75/32969/11 "2009-10-04T03:43:22Z")
Snoopy… have you used ICM with P78? Just curious I have just purchased both, but haven’t used them yet. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutant-icm-5a-with-p75/32969/12 "2009-10-04T14:37:58Z")
> [@reddog](#): > > Snoopy… have you used ICM with P78? Just curious I have just purchased both, but haven’t used them yet. I haven’t tried that one yet. I’ve got several other things I’m testing right now but I do have P78 on my list of things to get. If you try it out, let me know how it works! 🙂