# mutated ammo! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 2, 2011, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106 "2011-03-02T02:22:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![clarkncq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e99b99/32.png) [@clarkncq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/clarkncq)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/1 "2011-03-02T02:22:50Z")
Hey all, I’ve been using ammo for a while with fairly decent results for day time and night time, altho I must say tuth really takes the cake for me, I prefer it even for wearing to work during the day. But lately me being the intrepid adverturer I am, I’ve been having these thoughts in my head about creating a certain mutant ammo composite, so that I can wear tuth but also get alot more added to it! Ingredience: tuthx2 alpha a314 A spray IO Then mix them together into one bottle, so that its exactally an even 2.5… or so of each none, rone, and A nol, BUT! The mutant part, you get the added benifits of the steering molecules, and the beta nol as well so its ammo, but not just a super charged ammo Any yay or nay thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/2 "2011-03-02T02:46:05Z")
Woah… you wear TUTH to work? What kind of place do you work??? I saw the mutated ammo title and had to take a look… more of a mutated TUTH with steering molecules…😛 I’m interested in knowing how to mix molecules correctly and am interested in the process. Though, you’re thoughts on this combination are interesting!!! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![clarkncq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e99b99/32.png) [@clarkncq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/clarkncq)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 2:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/3 "2011-03-02T02:55:32Z")
Im a comptroller for the usaf Yea, its all about how you play it off, be professional and outgoing and tuth adds a sexual punch. But you gotta be able to play it off or your seen as a creepy horndog, but played off right, you look like a mature cocky player (I also use a P79/copulin mix in a togo bottle which helps alot and some socials maybe p74 or any social from the instant line) Yes, mutant tuth that’s basically exactally what it is ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/4 "2011-03-02T16:16:03Z")
The problem with mixing them together is that your essentially going to need more sprays to get the same dosage of each product. Its much more effective to just layer them over each other. ---
**Author:** ![clarkncq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e99b99/32.png) [@clarkncq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/clarkncq)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/5 "2011-03-02T16:22:54Z")
… lol naw you missed the whole point of this, I don’t want the same dosage. Im mixing them so that one spray of this stuff will be like spraying ammo with steering mones in it, it’ll be easy ---
**Author:** ![clarkncq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e99b99/32.png) [@clarkncq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/clarkncq)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/6 "2011-03-02T17:09:35Z")
Just like wearing hardcore ammo, more sexual due to the tuth, more alpha and mature do to the [A314 spray](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic-spray/) and more communication, due to the io, mixed together to be around 3 mcgs of each ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/7 "2011-03-02T17:38:30Z")
I’m not sure you would gain anything by mixing in a bottle except diminished concentration. The skin should be your canvas anyway with Instant products. IF you normally wear the following: 2 sprays TUTH 2X 3 IO 3 A314A You would need to spray all of those in a to go and then you would have 8 sprays. To get the effects you want you would need to spray all 8 sprays on yourself. Or you could just do it the way everyone else does and spray it on the skin. All you’re doing is combining it in a bottle and it would still require the same amount on the skin. Of course you could also (more than likely) mess up the results. ---
**Author:** ![clarkncq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e99b99/32.png) [@clarkncq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/clarkncq)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/8 "2011-03-02T18:00:33Z")
Yes! That’s the whole point im diminishing the effects of everything else but im strengthening the tuth into a new beast all together ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/9 "2011-03-02T18:50:26Z")
> [@clarkncq](#): > > Yes! That’s the whole point im diminishing the effects of everything else but im strengthening the tuth into a new beast all together No you’re not. You are diluting the TUTH with everything!😕 ---
**Author:** ![clarkncq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e99b99/32.png) [@clarkncq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/clarkncq)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/10 "2011-03-02T18:52:31Z")
Yea, that why im buying 5mcg, I usually only wear one spray of 2.5, so in the end that’s what it’ll end up, but with other additives, that give it more attracting qualities then just sexual ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/11 "2011-03-02T19:09:30Z")
Your gonna end up with way less than 2.5mcgs of TUTH per spray considering the higher concentrations of molecules in other products as well as the amount of products your mixing. It seems like a waste of product really considering how much TUTH you will have to use in comparison to the other products. Better off buying individual mones and trying out your own mix. ---
**Author:** ![clarkncq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e99b99/32.png) [@clarkncq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/clarkncq)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/12 "2011-03-03T00:58:31Z")
Not really, 200 sprays of 5mcg tuth, spray 80 into another bottle and pour the around 20-40 sprays of a314 and 40 of io probably x2, leaving about 2.8 none, 3-6 rone and 4-8 anol per spray, plus all the sterring molecules per spray as well. Simply math?? Or am I missing something ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 11:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/13 "2011-03-03T11:31:40Z")
> [@clarkncq](#): > > Not really, 200 sprays of 5mcg tuth, spray 80 into another bottle and pour the around 20-40 sprays of a314 and 40 of io probably x2, leaving about 2.8 none, 3-6 rone and 4-8 anol per spray, plus all the sterring molecules per spray as well. Simply math?? Or am I missing something Why not try 1s IJ+1s IG+1s IO on your skin, atleast then the ratio’s of all 3 will be the same like ammo and you will get the extra molecules aswell ---
**Author:** ![clarkncq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e99b99/32.png) [@clarkncq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/clarkncq)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 1:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/14 "2011-03-03T13:50:18Z")
Ratios aren’t off? there the same Its just basically tuth with very diluted a314 and io, which is good, I find that at my age high erone just doesn’t quite do it for me, same for the nols, none is basically the cats meow for getting girls, but those others still have qualities I like/want, so my solution, buy higher consentration tuth and dilute some of the other mones into it to come out with an even 2.5 - 4 mcgs of each per spray, plus a few steering mones which make it difficult for people to “put there finger on you” sounds good in theory to me? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/15 "2011-03-03T15:19:39Z")
> [@clarkncq](#): > > Hey all, I’ve been using ammo for a while with fairly decent results for day time and night time, altho I must say tuth really takes the cake for me, I prefer it even for wearing to work during the day. > > But lately me being the intrepid adverturer I am, I’ve been having these thoughts in my head about creating a certain mutant ammo composite, so that I can wear tuth but also get alot more added to it! > Ingredience: > tuthx2 > alpha a314 A spray > IO > Then mix them together into one bottle, so that its exactally an even 2.5… or so of each none, rone, and A nol, BUT! The mutant part, you get the added benifits of the steering molecules, and the beta nol as well so its ammo, but not just a super charged ammo > Any yay or nay thoughts? It’s not even close to a mutated ammo. Not saying it won’t work or wont be a good mix, just comparing it to ammo would be very inaccurate. A314 is about 23 mcg of mones, mostly Rone but a small amount of None. (Going by some of Mharris’s posts it could be as much as an 80/20 Rone to None ratio but nobody knows for sure) TuTH is 2.5 (or 5 if you get double strength) mcg of **mostly** None (nobody knows the EXACT amounts) with some steering mones in it to steer it in a more sexual direction. This basically makes it impossible to get an equal None to Rone Ratio using these products. Besides which [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is equal portions for a reason, some signals don’t need to be as strong when they’re more directed. That’s why the alpha male signal of A314 comes in a 23 mcg per drop dose but the very strong sexual vibe of TuTH is only needed in a 2.5 mcg per spray dose. If you lower the dose of a single drop of A314 from 23 mcg per dose to 2.5 mcg per dose you have one TENTH of the potency…not very strong. TuTH however is what it is at the strength that it is, 2.5 mcg’s of TuTH comes of very attractive and sexual at a single spray when paired with a 23 mcg drop of A314, heck even up to 3 drops. But you put them in equal ratio’s and the sexual vibe of TuTH would over power the 1/10th strength A314 so much you may as well not use it. Likewise it’s the same reason that socials like IO come in 15 mcg doses and not 2.5. Steering molecules can have a synergistic and exponential effect which is why not all products come in the same doses as they are. I understand the concept, of making your Rone more Roney (alpha) and None more Noney (sexual) but while Ammo by itself is equal portions, more specialized products don’t need to be, nor should they be. A single dose each of A314. TuTH and IO would work fine for what you want, you may even find that you want to keep the TuTH down to a single dose and up the dosage of either the A314 or IO if not both. You won’t lose the sexual vibe of TuTH…trust me. But if you make them all equal in actual mcg ratio’s? I suspect you would just have TuTH with some respect and social molecules in such small doses that they’re effects are barely noticeable. ---
**Author:** ![clarkncq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e99b99/32.png) [@clarkncq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/clarkncq)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/16 "2011-03-03T17:13:23Z")
Hmm, very good point.. but then again I want a dumbed down version, I feel like alpha totally boots you from the group your in, your either the leader or your not part of the team. That’s what I get from the strong mature leader signal of alpha, its a very unsocial no nonsence type deal, which I don’t like but kind of do like, so… maybe use more like 6-8 mcg per 2mcg spray of tuth, and I got the x2 of io which will counter the no nonsence vibe of alpha and the aggression of tuth a little, so maybe something like 8 of anol per 2mcgs of tuth, plus im thinkin for kicks and giggles add a little mx297 to it??? Idk maybe ---
**Author:** ![clarkncq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e99b99/32.png) [@clarkncq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/clarkncq)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/17 "2011-03-03T17:29:31Z")
Blast! Its destined for failer, at most the ratio would be 2.8 none, 5 ron, 6 anol. Still a very overpowering tuth and like you said, a really crappy ammo… however it might make for an interesting. Mutant tuth? Very sexual with slightly more alpha and comfort to it? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/18 "2011-03-03T17:51:35Z")
Mixing multiple blends of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) together is simply a no no. You have no idea what is mixing together or how everything will react with everything else. If good conceptualization was the only thing that was required to make a solid defining mix every individual on the forum would be a phero master. We cant tell you what to do obviously but you will eventually see that “convenient” conceptualizing isn’t exactly as sound as your conscience made it out to be. ---
**Author:** ![clarkncq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e99b99/32.png) [@clarkncq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/clarkncq)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 5:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/19 "2011-03-03T17:56:12Z")
What do you mean I don’t know what’s going together and how it will react? Yea I do, I feel like it would be no different mixing them into a bottle, for a stronger tuth, then it would be to spray one spray of tuth, .3 spray of alpha and .3 spray of io?? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106/20 "2011-03-03T18:14:31Z")
> [@clarkncq](#): > > What do you mean I don’t know what’s going together and how it will react? Yea I do, I feel like it would be no different mixing them into a bottle, for a stronger tuth, then it would be to spray one spray of tuth, .3 spray of alpha and .3 spray of io?? I figured you would get offended by my wording. And yes I did mean to word it that way but not to be offensive though. What do I mean exactly? hmm do you know whats in TUTH? No, you only know the main component. Do you know whats in the A314 spray? No, you only know that rone is in it. Do you know what is in [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)? No, you only know that nol is in it. So yes you know that None and rone and nol is in it. What about the attributing factors? Have you ever tried different ratios of those 3 by themselves to even know how they interact without complicating things? Do you drink? Have you ever made a drink? Would you take 3 blended drinks made by a bartender and because they all appealed to you, you would “conveniently” mix all of them together so you wouldnt have to hassle yourself with drinking from 3 glasses? Maybe you would and maybe it would be okay but that is very poor rationale in a subject area such as this. If what you saying is true and mixing them together would be no different than spraying each one separately, I dont think your accounting for everything. Alpha A314 is the way it is because the ratios are implemented that way. With the dilution your doing your screwing around with the last 4.5-6 mcgs of content that are a HUGE part of why A314 works the way it does. Not to mention that the TUTH would create a larger disparity as you are altering the signature even more. This logic is no better than the Lego building Ideology of a child with the difference being at least the child knows what he/she is up against. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mutated-ammo/49106.md?page=2)