# MX 297 - Dropping Knowledge **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 13, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301 "2013-06-13T21:59:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![floydianone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/floydianone/32/2301_2.png) [@floydianone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/floydianone)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 3:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/43 "2014-01-24T03:05:49Z")
> [@KIMBA](#): > > 1. 297 + Beta-Nol + P83 + NPA > > This is my best/favorite 297 mix EVER. Beta-Nol is the main ingredient in IH, and half of the legendary CTTM mix. It is a molecule which screams “I know you, lets share secrets”. IH can work, but IH has steering molecules in it which can muddle the water. > > To get people to try this I will share one story from this mix. My friends GF was giving me a back massage at a bar. She starts making sexual jokes. The sniffs my neck and offers me a blowjob. The rest of the night she keep trying to kiss me. She also shared how she would have sex with me. My friend was a couple feet away! Hey Kimba awesome thread! Was wondering what ratios and strengths you were using in this mix? And I was also wondering if you have ever tried DP with 297? Not sure if 297 plays well with Cops but figured it might add to the social status vibe but what do you think? ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/44 "2014-01-24T03:30:51Z")
Never less than two 297, Beta - Nol is 20 MCG to start, [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) is 20 - 30 max, and NPA is 2 - 4 dabs. It is often dependent on wearer. Never used DP with 297. I have used Cops and it was not bad, and I have used high Enone. It would be worth a shot. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 9:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/45 "2014-01-24T09:26:17Z")
> [@floydianone](#): > > And I was also wondering if you have ever tried DP with 297? Not sure if 297 plays well with Cops but figured it might add to the social status vibe but what do you think? I have used Cops and other high-none products and it was just fine with [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/)/IH. An absolute magnet for women with “issues” though, so prepare for a lot of drama/tears before bedtime! 😮 😃 ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 10:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/46 "2014-01-24T10:11:27Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > I have used Cops and other high-none products and it was just fine with MX297/IH. > > An absolute magnet for women with “issues” though, so prepare for a lot of drama/tears before bedtime! 😮 😃 Hey! Some of us are into that type of thing. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 1:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/47 "2014-01-24T13:08:02Z")
> [@KIMBA](#): > > Never less than two 297, Beta - Nol is 20 MCG to start, P83 is 20 - 30 max, and NPA is 2 - 4 dabs. > > It is often dependent on wearer. > > Never used DP with 297. I have used Cops and it was not bad, and I have used high Enone. It would be worth a shot. How much none is in 2-4 dabs NPA? I once wore a 2 spray Mx297 + 2 sprays IH + 2 sprays TUTH combo - one of the best mixes I tried so far. Will add [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) next time now that I have it, should be fun 😃 ---
**Author:** ![floydianone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/floydianone/32/2301_2.png) [@floydianone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/floydianone)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 2:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/48 "2014-01-24T14:17:23Z")
> [@KIMBA](#): > > Never less than two 297, Beta - Nol is 20 MCG to start, P83 is 20 - 30 max, and NPA is 2 - 4 dabs. Have you ever tried adding p96 to a more complex mix like this one Kimba? I have only seen the suggestion of p96 alone with mx297 but no other suggestions or trials with other additions to the p96 + mx297 combo. Sorry about all the questions about stuff I should just try for myself but I only get to go out to test every few weeks because of work so I have to be one of those planning type guys. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 2:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/49 "2014-01-24T14:52:37Z")
Based on the journals I have read, P96 excels at connecting complex mixes. It’s been described as the glue that binds them. It’s a critical element of various complex and highly successful mixes. This is part of the reason why there are not enough of the sorely needed solo reports for P96. People always seem to end up using it to perfect their mix. It’s entirely possible that [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) has P96 in it already, but if that is so, adding more is just extra comfort. > [@floydianone](#): > > Have you ever tried adding p96 to a more complex mix like this one Kimba? > I have only seen the suggestion of p96 alone with mx297 but no other suggestions or trials with other additions to the p96 + mx297 combo. > > Sorry about all the questions about stuff I should just try for myself but I only get to go out to test every few weeks because of work so I have to be one of those planning type guys. > > Thanks ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/50 "2014-01-24T17:48:43Z")
> [@lwatkins](#): > > It’s entirely possible that MX297 has P96 in it already, but if that is so, adding more is just extra comfort. I have wondered this too. [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) is one of the few products that can have women (and the odd man/bi-girl) begging you for sex in the most upfront ways (just like P96) if you steer it right and have appropriate congruence - ie party like a mad fucker! :o 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SWE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@SWE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SWE)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/51 "2014-01-24T18:01:36Z")
I wore [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) for the first time today at work. 2 sprays along with 1 spray of Ammo 2X. I had a pretty cool DIHL reaction from an Asian girl in her early 20s (Im 41) that is normally very shy. I sit near the break room so there is normally a lot of traffic in front of me. This girl usually just walks right by me unless she needs to talk about something work related. However, this time she slowed down, suddenly veered towards me and ran her fingers along the edge of my cubicle. On the way back she stopped and kneeled over my cube… she just stared at me for a few seconds… then she thanked me for bringing donuts. She knew very well I wasnt the one who brought them but I think she just wanted an excuse to stop by and take another whiff? Hahahaha!!! I like this stuff already J ---
**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/52 "2014-01-24T18:16:29Z")
P97 is a type of catalyst and very close related to P96 in terms of the way it play out in a mix… plus P97 is actually in stock. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/53 "2014-01-24T18:17:18Z")
Yup, [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) is one of the best shyness-killing pheros I’ve yet used. Get it into a fun/social/party environment to see its full effect though. Work limits it somewhat, unless you are an entertainer or the like. ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 6:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/54 "2014-01-24T18:39:44Z")
> [@lwatkins](#): > > P97 is a type of catalyst and very close related to P96 in terms of the way it play out in a mix… plus P97 is actually in stock. You’re on to something. Two users that I think highly of have hinted that P97 is in [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/). Still18 said P97 is the secret behind the celebrity/star hits you get with Mx297, but also causes castration if the dosage is too high (same as with alpha androstenol). He also put P97 in his alternative MX297 mix - check out his journal. Pago mentions P96 and P97 work in similar ways, but P96 steers a mix more into a romantic direction, and P97 more in a social direction. (Not drawing conclusions here, but maybe not totally a coincidence the mix name is 2 **97**? 😉 ) I have some P96. Will pair it with MX297 and TUTH and report back here. First have to do some solo testing. > [@Bridging the Gap - P96 (long overdue report)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bridging-the-gap-p96-long-overdue-report/49024): > > As you all know I have been playing with this one for quite some time and I have reported numerous times I know its an exceptional molecule, but haven’t figured out exactly how it works. On that line of thinking, I haven’t been able to discover even if it works alone or in conjunction with something else. This series of internal thoughts and questions started leading me in a new direction. Perhaps P96 works only when paired with other molecules. A long time ago when I was initially working on th… > [@MX297 Results](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx297-results/60656): > > I’m gonna keep this short and sweet, because I only just remembered to post my experiences? From what I experienced today and the other day? [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) is a get-shit-done-but-i’m-the-boss-and-respect-me/LETS PARTY/TALK-TO-ME mone? To the point of where people think you’re TOO interesting and don’t leave you the hell alone! lol I’ll report back more when I’m sober lol roll_eyes ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 6:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/55 "2014-01-25T06:03:43Z")
> [@lwatkins](#): > > P97 is a type of catalyst and very close related to P96 in terms of the way it play out in a mix… plus P97 is actually in stock. I’ve read this. Have you tried it? Thinking about what to order in Feb. Always open to ideas. In case Brian reads this…I’m thinking 5-pack bundles of 5 mcg/ 5mL testers in the store, pre-made and in stock for all or most putatives. We’ve got to start getting some of this stuff into people’s hands. $50 per pack reporting price, $75 retail, mix&match. ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/56 "2014-01-25T12:51:58Z")
I highly believe p97 is in 297, but NOT p96. I also think another P9x molecule is in it, but I don’t want to skew results. It’s a very female mix. I have used p96, it’s very romantic by all accounts. Super bonding. I also think it is one of the rare molecules that amps up the other components of the mix. ---
**Author:** ![floydianone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/floydianone/32/2301_2.png) [@floydianone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/floydianone)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/57 "2014-01-27T02:53:05Z")
2 sprays of mx297 2 sprays of IO 2 sprays of IH [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) @ 20 mcg P96 @ 20 mcg Dirty Primitive @ 1 drop Added another spray of mx297 to throat and 1 spray regular strength TUTH after about 4 hours. This is my new favorite club mix! Self effects made me feel unstoppable. Zero personal space with women on the dance floor and multiple groups basically competing to keep my attention. I figured this mix would be better than 297 alone but didn’t expect it to be this much better! Can’t wait to do more testing with this one! ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/58 "2014-02-10T17:01:11Z")
Words of wisdom, IO and IH reduce hits. Swap IH for straight Beta Nol. Far more superior. ---
**Author:** ![floydianone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/floydianone/32/2301_2.png) [@floydianone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/floydianone)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/59 "2014-02-10T17:57:38Z")
> [@KIMBA](#): > > Words of wisdom, IO and IH reduce hits. Swap IH for straight Beta Nol. Far more superior. Thanks Kimba I’ll def try that. How many mcg of Beta Nol would you recommend? All I have is a 30ml of 50mcg/spray Beta Nol so I have to dilute it down some. ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/60 "2014-02-10T19:13:57Z")
I like 20 MCG in this personally. But as you know 50 gives you interesting results… ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/61 "2014-02-10T19:20:50Z")
> [@KIMBA](#): > > Words of wisdom, IO and IH reduce hits. Swap IH for straight Beta Nol. Far more superior. Yup - I second this wholehartedly. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2014, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301/62 "2014-02-15T17:57:41Z")
> [@KIMBA](#): > > 1. 297 + P 75 > > P75 is a lot like aNone to me, kinda sensual aggressive vibe. For younger guys who are not able to pull off the eNone P75 does work. > > P75 give 297 a more masculine feel. For the [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) veterans out here: How much P75 do you add to every spray of MX297? Would adding some TUTH+P83 later on the night be too much? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx-297-dropping-knowledge/59301.md?page=4)