# MX101, how does it work? **URL:** \ **Category:** MXs - Experimental Test Mixes\ **Created:** [April 5, 2006, 12:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479 "2006-04-05T12:19:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/41 "2006-04-14T22:52:50Z")
I googled “SMOTFRN” and got no results. It did ask me if I mean “smutfun” though. Emphasis on developing the product greatly valued consistency. There are plenty of products that seem legendary one day that only leave us disappointed the next day. I don’t know of any product that will hit Home Runs every at bat, including this one, but I feel that this one consistency yields enough singles, doubles or triples when it doesn’t send one over the fence. ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/42 "2006-04-14T23:03:46Z")
Oh it was an abbrieviation someone mentioned(I don’t know if he was joking)in the forum sometime ago. Some forum users should know if they came across that post. It actually means Sodomise Me On The Floor Right Now!😮 If you were to market it in the instant line it’ll be Instant SMOTFRN! that is.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 12:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/43 "2006-04-15T00:15:10Z")
> [@Futurist](#): > > Michael has gotten an opportunity to test it and thinks highly of it’s attention grabbing abilities. Jasmin also had someone use it, and he reported it was quite an experience. > > I’m not saying women are going to jump on top of you and start humping you, but I do believe it gets the job done better than any other product on the market for it’s purposes. interesting.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 4:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/44 "2006-04-15T04:54:05Z")
have been adding it into my sexmix combinations So far it combines well with the classic sexmix blends. For a pro-erotic basic combination I’ve now converged on none, a lot of alpha-nol, a bit of beta nol, 2 bits of -rone, about 4 bits of dienol, a bit of TAH (an essential nuance IMHO) and add dienol as needed to soften the overall effect. If you want hard slam, don’t add alpha-dienol, if you want to cushion it and add a warmer relational flow, a touch of -dienol is good. PMX101 w/ dienol might be a curious hang out and associate sort of blend. I tried a nice shot of PMX101 around a roomful of guys… there was unquestionably a alpha shift going on, although none of the androstenone turf tripping.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 1:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/45 "2006-04-15T13:37:58Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > So far it combines well with the classic sexmix blends. For a pro-erotic basic combination I’ve now converged on none, a lot of alpha-nol, a bit of beta nol, 2 bits of -rone, about 4 bits of dienol, a bit of TAH (an essential nuance IMHO) and add dienol as needed to soften the overall effect. If you want hard slam, don’t add alpha-dienol, if you want to cushion it and add a warmer relational flow, a touch of -dienol is good. PMX101 w/ dienol might be a curious hang out and associate sort of blend. I tried a nice shot of PMX101 around a roomful of guys… there was unquestionably a alpha shift going on, although none of the androstenone turf tripping.🙄 So, Mr. T, you have your hands on this product that I’m in search of … Have you tested it ALONE, and if so, how long did you test it solo and how many sprays did you use in your testing period?Why TAH?Thankya! ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/46 "2006-04-15T17:02:46Z")
So: How would all of you who know or have tried this item compare it to Ammunition? Or some of the other “more sex oriented” products like AE? I’ve been in the market for a more overt “sexual” product, but have been coming to the conclusion, for whatever reason or another, possibly my own body chemistry, that -none heavy products do more to scare em off than attract. I have one “subject” that often literally curled up in a defensive ball whenever I used a -none product (age mid-30’s), although when I tried -none plus some a314 a few months ago, the effect didn’t manifest itself. A good sign that Androtics/MHarris was on to something. Is PMX101 going to fill the bill? I sure hope so. I’d like Futurist’s opinion on this especially. I may want to put myself in the queue for this. I’ve not participated in the “great 6-pack experiment” (which I guess are more-or-less TUTH variations) because of my past negative experiences with -none. I’m hoping to find a product that will be worth my investment. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 5:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/47 "2006-04-15T17:10:27Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > I’ve been in the market for a more overt “sexual” product > > although when I tried -none plus some a314 a few months ago, the effect didn’t manifest itself. A good sign that Androtics/MHarris was on to something. I’m in the same boat, RbtO. Still, my search has put me in the path of Chikara, and now A314, which is a good thing; but I’m still in search of that _ **“I don’t know what happened, but I need you now!”** _ product. Maybe it’s asking too much, but I’ll be hanging around until either my noodles stops raising up or I’m dead, with hopes that there’ll be such a product. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/48 "2006-04-15T17:29:44Z")
You can’t create a reaction out of thin air I see guys going to the ends of the earth to make themselves appealing, $5000. watches, most of their free time pumping up at the gym, they’ll do almost anything, eat dog food to save money for good hair stylist… maybe they would profit more from a sound education, knowing the best places to go instead of hanging around people not much differerent from them, expecting that by being in a safe familiar environment, bar, club, gym , whatever… they will stumble across any form of life substantially different than the basic patterns they now know 😕 😕 😕 … [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) become exceedingly interesting when you use them in combination with the psychology of pushing the envelope… that’s the secret in a nut… where do you find yourself challenged by the unfamiliar, the unknown.???.. maybe the secret isn’t reeking up a storm in gym but giving off a light cloud of mones in a yoga class… the way to do it is to be interesting to other people, interesting whether or not you use pheromones…I see far too many seekers who basically aren’t interesting,they’re friggin’ BORES, pretty, well groomed, trendy BORES… who COULD be interesting, if they would stretch their worldviews three sizes…climb out of their boxes, see new sides of life, get over the idea of the one true perspective… ---
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 2:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/49 "2006-04-16T14:01:01Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > So: > > How would all of you who know or have tried this item compare it to Ammunition? Or some of the other “more sex oriented” products like AE? > > I’ve been in the market for a more overt “sexual” product, but have been coming to the conclusion, for whatever reason or another, possibly my own body chemistry, that -none heavy products do more to scare em off than attract. I have one “subject” that often literally curled up in a defensive ball whenever I used a -none product (age mid-30’s), although when I tried -none plus some a314 a few months ago, the effect didn’t manifest itself. A good sign that Androtics/MHarris was on to something. > > Is PMX101 going to fill the bill? I sure hope so. > > I’d like Futurist’s opinion on this especially. I may want to put myself in the queue for this. I’ve not participated in the “great 6-pack experiment” (which I guess are more-or-less TUTH variations) because of my past negative experiences with -none. I’m hoping to find a product that will be worth my investment. For some people, AE works great. But not for a lot of guys though. It’s a fairly simplistic product. I would not be happy with the product performed like AE. For AE lovers, however, who it’s perfect for, AE may still be a better product for them. I feel overall, most will favor PMX 101, however. It’s intention is to be wearable for guy’s with the lone wolf syndrome. So will it work for you? I hope so. Being an experienced pheromone user, you surely know, however, products don’t work the same for everyone. I expect, PMX 101 to decrease the typical level of inconsistency among sexually-oriented, attention-getting products. One thing you’ll notice is that the reactions you get are easier to notice in the context of sexual situations/environments but you still should be able to pickup on reactions in day to day life. ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/50 "2006-04-16T16:41:40Z")
Hmm..the effects of Ammunition are actually quite similar to that of AE and Swept Away;another none,nol,rone oil based product which i’ve used before getting Ammunition.All these contain none which can quite irritate sometimes when put in od amounts except [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/).I can put more Ammo though,its very well balanced and smells really crisp and fresh i must say.But everything will be ultimately converted to none after a certain period of time via oxidation,and i’ll suffer a super od still.😛 Gotten good IOIs with all 3 products before. PMX101 is definitely an exciting product.I really wanna try it out at od amounts and also see if it can beat SA and AE in sexual effects. I guess we’ll only know if PMX101 can really surpass them once we get to try it,which i hope is very soon. Futurist,don’t keep us waiting man!😃 ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/51 "2006-04-16T21:47:22Z")
> [@Futurist](#): > > One thing you’ll notice is that the reactions you get are easier to notice in the context of sexual situations/environments but you still should be able to pickup on reactions in day to day life. How is this product different with regards to its contents..don’t want to know the exact constituents… wondering if it is some magic ratio of common pheromones which does the trick or, is it some new pheromones added to the existing ones or, maybe both (I suspect this is the case 🙂 )? ---
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/52 "2006-04-16T22:14:43Z")
> [@Homura83](#): > > PMX101 is definitely an exciting product.I really wanna try it out at od amounts Don’t do that if you want it to work. Actually, I think the biggest challenge in using the product will be in finding the optimum dosage and apllication method (where and how you apply it). It is a spray, though, and you won’t have to mix many products, it’s standalone, so that process should be easier. At this point I can’t tell you the best way of using the product, you’ll have to discover that. ---
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/53 "2006-04-16T22:15:34Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > How is this product different with regards to its contents..don’t want to know the exact constituents… > wondering if it is some magic ratio of common pheromones which does the trick > or, > is it some new pheromones added to the existing ones > or, > maybe both (I suspect this is the case 🙂 )? It’s the pheromones, the ratios and there amounts. Yea, so it’s everything. It’s very different than what else is on the market. ---
**Author:** ![Rapaille](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Rapaille](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rapaille)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/54 "2006-04-16T22:22:53Z")
It sounds quite good. Sounds great, to bad I already ordered my maximum amount on mones this month. Maybe next month, sounds like a fun product for mixes (with IS/IO) ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/55 "2006-04-17T00:47:41Z")
> [@Futurist](#): > > Don’t do that if you want it to work. Actually, I think the biggest challenge in using the product will be in finding the optimum dosage and apllication method (where and how you apply it). It is a spray, though, and you won’t have to mix many products, it’s standalone, so that process should be easier. > > At this point I can’t tell you the best way of using the product, you’ll have to discover that. I find it amazing, the minds of true a -mone-atologist; but still, even with the different levels of explanations we all have, we still have the same goal. I’d like to label the goal, which is now goals, as suits. One suit for socializing, a suit for respect, and a suit for pure naughtiness.I am guilty for not wanting to waste a product, which is why I ask so many questions from those testing the mad scientist cap, but I find you’re right when you say that one has to test and find the best way of using a product.Thank you and the rest of you for sharing your thoughts, ideas, and findings! ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/56 "2006-04-17T03:41:58Z")
I have already noticed subtle differences in the way Alter Ego works as compared to Chikara. I have tested both with the same group of “subjects” and the reactions (the how and what), and who reacted, were ever so slightly different. I really should try duplicating the tests with the Pheromax I have as well. Oh, and I did try the tests with Perception. Zilch nada with that one. Got nothing. So different products, different results. Makes it both challenging and frustrating at the same time. I am a fan of “grab and go” single product, if one existed, but I can also appreciate how you may want to tweak your mixes, and also deliver/apply them slightly differently so I can see the point of separates. I think I’d prefer IO or IH to be at my wrists where it will affect my targets more than myself for example (and those who react badly to IFM would probably want application points at a sufficient distance to affect their female targets and no themselves of other men - unless of course they wanted to depress other men to make themselves stand out more…). I have been tempted to try Ammunition, but I too am up against a budget limit, not to mention I already have IO, IShine, IFM, TAF, Safari100, and Meo-est to mix and match already (and IH on the way). And to try in combination with my collection of other companies products (Chikara, AE, etc.). Still, I just may want to give PMX101 a shot… Oh the temptation… Hmmm… I _am_ geting a tax refund… hmmmmm ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/57 "2006-04-17T03:45:19Z")
> [@Homura83](#): > > Hmm..the effects of Ammunition are actually quite similar to that of AE and Swept Away;another none,nol,rone oil based product which i’ve used before getting Ammunition.All these contain none which can quite irritate sometimes when put in od amounts except Ammo.I can put more Ammo though,its very well balanced and smells really crisp and fresh i must say.But everything will be ultimately converted to none after a certain period of time via oxidation,and i’ll suffer a super od still.😛 Unless you’re spraying these into your arm pits or other bacteria rich area, there’s probably very little “conversion”. What happens is that the alpha nol is far more diffusive than androstenone. Androstenone (and some other mones, like androstadienone), is extremely tenacious. The “spider man” of pheromones, it can stick to your skin for days. The other end of the spectrum are pheromones like alpha nol, and, especially TAA. They’re fleeting. They’ll disperse faster than the -none component, even with good fixatives to regulate their dispersion. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 12:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/58 "2006-04-20T12:43:52Z")
Any news on the status of PMX101’s availability for the rest of us? ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/59 "2006-04-20T16:00:02Z")
Yeah haven’t heard about it for sometime too.. ---
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2006, 1:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479/60 "2006-04-22T13:37:03Z")
Although we’ve had beta testing, I am contemplating putting together another beta test with this group. The problem on my end is that pheromone researchers normally don’t get people committed to testing their products if the users haven’t invested money into the product. It’s human nature not to invest time in it as well. How do people feel about participating in a beta test? It would mean using the product completely on it’s own for a number of applications, without any other [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/), and really testing it and providing feedback (feedback which could be quoted for testimonials). [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-how-does-it-work/23479.md?page=4)