# MX102 experimental A314 for respect at work, compared with A314 oil and Pherlure **URL:** \ **Category:** MXs - Experimental Test Mixes\ **Created:** [August 25, 2006, 2:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-experimental-a314-for-respect-at-work-compared-with-a314-oil-and-pherlure/23475 "2006-08-25T02:21:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 10
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 2:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-experimental-a314-for-respect-at-work-compared-with-a314-oil-and-pherlure/23475/10 "2006-08-25T14:55:06Z")
> [@MX102 before a job interview: friend hired fast, men turn respectful](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-before-a-job-interview-friend-hired-fast-men-turn-respectful/607/8): > > Hehehe, > > I’ve been using MMethod for 10 months now and it has killed my fears in approaching any woman. I must say, it really work in that respect. But after almost a year of MMethod, I have found that i’ve become reliant on that too. I’ve become so routine based that whenever I sarge a girl, it’s like a Shakespearian play about to start. It’s almost as if it’s scripted. I know that’s not the way Mystery intended it to be, but that how I have evolved to " become ". Remember when Style said at the end of his book how so many PUA’s try to emulate him and his routines ( I won’t say techniques, coz his techniques/understanding/calibration are awesome ), and become like robots? Well, I have turned out like that. So is Neil (Style). I met him at the beginning of the summer, and found his social options oddly lacking. I’m not “in the field” nearly as much as someone like him, but I easily had more behavioral flexibility, and thus, in terms of Ashby’s law of systems, I was in control. He’s a social robot, just a refined one. If a woman was completely unexposed to him and his writings, I can see his methods working. For those exposed, I cannot. I think they’d honestly have to be won over by him as a person (and he does seem like an enjoyable person), not his methods. At least those methods give a very real foot in the door. An opportunity to show your real self. An opportunity may not have had otherwise. i.e., you can start with those methods, then slide into being you. You know you can get what you want by going through all the motions 100%, so feel free to “burn” opportunities by ditching the tried & true scripts midstream after the initial rejection phase has been cleared. Most women reject men so quickly, all they end up with is refined players. They see normal men as creepy or boring, and don’t give them enough time to become comfortable and start controlling them frame. It’s why I recommended to one lady here on this forum, to start judging a guy on the second meeting or second date… the first one is nothing. They could end up rejecting the potential love of their life by evaluating a man when his in “stun” mode. > [@](#): > > I have sarged, I have approached, and I have closed with numbers for a date. Then on the date, I’m like this robot who just isn’t me. And I’m wondering , how long I can keep this facade up with the girl you know? So lately, I’ve been listening to this self-help guy called Gary Brodsky. I must say, he’s awesome and he instilled in my mind many things that are currently, causing me to evolve yet again to another level of confidence and competence. This guy is literally reframing my mind to bring out the personality in me, that I so lacked from the robotic nature of the MMethod. Well, good. Now you have a solid structure (what you’re basically saying is that MM is solid – too solid), you can play. There’s many directions you can go now. It’s like driving. After you know how to drive “the right way”, you can develop your own methods and inject your own creativity. Tough (if not deadly) to start that way, though! 😉 How did you learn Mystery Method, btw? Forums, the VAH book, videos, trainings? > [@](#): > > I had a date last weekend, and I tried out some of these Brodsky techniques and I was incredibly happy bout the way I held myself. I was almost my best self on that night and I didn’t do any routines, didn’t have to depend on it for the first time in months. You know when women say to unconfident men " Just be yourself! ", well , that doesn’t work at all. No, it doesn’t. It’s your normal self which is not hitting the right attraction triggers in women. They’re far too harsh when first meeting someone, and you really need to be well developed – either naturally or through training – to bypass all of the petty BS, and get into something deeper. Being “yourself” will happen eventually, but only when bypassing the petty gatekeeper in the other person’s head. There’s also many selfs. People are different than they were when they were born. There’s no shame in changing… and, especially, becoming better. If being yourself doesn’t work, be someone better or at least more palatable. There’s no natural born anything. No infant has ever sold me a car (the “natural born salesman” nonsense). Learning to be more is just fine. > [@](#): > > It’s being your " best self " that brings upon the sparkle in her eyes, and boy…I sure got sparkles from her. Then again, I had Shine and A314 to help me as well. Yes, better is always a valid option. Instead of saying “Be yourself”, people should say “be someone better”. There’s no shame in being better. It’s not disingenuous to learn and grow. > [@](#): > > MHarris, I have been thinking of the faking it till I make it with the mones, even before you mentioned it. I was thinking maybe if I get used to acting this way, I shall become natural in that form. But then I thought about it again. When one day, months down the line I decide to go commando without mones, the placebo effect might actually kick in. I’d probably start to think " hey you have become this really confident person because you had mones to help you and now, u don’t have mones on. Revert back to old self . " If you become competent enough, it doesn’t matter as much what nonsense you tell yourself. Think about riding a bike. Now that you’ve done it, it’s VERY hard to be as bad as you were when you first rode, no matter WHAT you say to yourself. You’d have to be a GREAT actor to really capture what it’s like pre-ride. > [@](#): > > I was watching the Annihilation Method by Style the other day. And he mentioned many a good AFC turned PUA had decided to drop the whole facade and just be " natural ", and that they thought that they had finally amalgamated with their alter ego. Within days they had lost it all and snapped back to their old AFC ways and have become quivering wimps again. Without the methods , they were nothing but the same person still. I don’t know why he’d say that, but that’s obviously not the whole truth. Sounds like a negativistic fantasy. Human beings don’t work that way. It’s tough to unlearn things. See the bike riding example above. I truly dare you to jump on a bike and hurt yourself as much as you did when first tried to ride one. It’s tough to be a virgin all over again. If we’re machine like at all, we’re learning machines. We learn fast, and if anything gets us in trouble, it’s how quickly we can learn from negative experiences and convince ourselves that it’ll “always be this way”. Once you’ve been successful, it’s actually VERY hard to become a loser again. Many SELF-MADE rich people, in fact, say that they could lose everything, and be back to where they are in a year… because while they may lose their assessment, they CANNOT lose their experiences and what they’ve learned. They now know how to be successful, and it’s tough to take that away, short of dying. > [@](#): > > I think it doesn’t work in theory. You can’t fake it till you make it because the little voice in your head will always tell you that deep down, you’re still the same person. Then shut it up. It’s your voice. Put some clown music to it, move the voice to your left, to your past, and fade it volume away to nothing. You can control what goes on in your head. You can even make it egg you on, using the same words it does now. Just make it sexy (“oooh, you can’t do that!”). It’ll have the reverse effect when you change the voice tone. I’m very serious. Try it. It works. If you don’t, I’m going to bill you $10k, since it this commonly what people charge for this advice. Then you’ll try it, I guarantee you! 🙂 > [@](#): > > One has to really consciously change oneself from within , and that’s the hardest challenge in life, facing your own demons. It’s hard as long as you think it’s hard. The reality of the matter is that almost everything is easy. I guarantee that your ideas about what is not easy or possible are not your own. You just think things are hard, because you hear people proselytizing this nonsense all the time. You’ve bought into mass hypnotic BS that drags down the average person to the level of an flea. You’ve learned a lie, and you’ve learned it well. I guarantee you that actual successful people do not think like this. You cannot achieve success in a lifetime (where there’s no time to waste) when you are own worst enemy, with inaccurate, defeatist thoughts about what isn’t possible in your reality. Contemplate the following two bits of _reality_ based thinking: _ **“Whether You Think You Can or Can’t, You’re Right”** _ – Henry Ford and (feel free to ignore the pseudo-religious subtext): "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our Light, not our Darkness, that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you NOT to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightening about shrinking so that other people won’t feel unsure around you. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It is not just in some of us; it is in everyone. As we let our own Light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. " - Marianne Williamson These are a hell of a lot closer to the actuality, I assure you. > [@](#): > > Thank you for your Ammo + A314 feedback. I will try it this weekend for sure. I will also try MX 105 upon your recommendation. I think that formula’s missing 2 pheromones right? So in what way would it be different than MX102 in terms of effect? It’s missing “day” pheromones. > [@](#): > > You mentioned it being more romantic Potentially > [@](#): > > , but what’s the downside of that? Less respect from men maybe ? Hey, I’m not going to have your experience for you. These are test mixes for a reason. You tell me. 😃 > [@](#): > > Sorry for the long post guys, typing my thoughts here allow me to actually analyze problems and see things from a 3rd perspective. > > NFS It’s time to replace programming given freely to you by others, with something resembling what is true… and what works. Imagine if a V12 car had a conscious mind, and it was convinced by others that it was a bicycle. It’d act like one, despite being so very much more. The downside of having a conscious mind – of having massive amounts of very _real_ mental power – is that you can be scammed… into thinking & feeling that you are less than you are. Your power can be used against you. That’s what happened to you, and it what happens to too many good people. Acknowledge most of your limiting beliefs as second hand BS, and understand that truly successful people believe something else. If you want to model anyone, model people who’ve done what you want to do. You can do anything the most admired people in history have, and more. Stop being your own worst enemy, and become your own best hero. That starts with what’s in your head. You’ve seen now, for example, what a different effect is generated by using different words and body movements through the Mystery Method. Everything is like that. You do different things, think different things, say different things, move your body a little differently, and you get a different result. It really is very easy, despite the rumors from unhappy, unsuccessful people (or from selfish, successful people who are too myopic to want you to have what they have) --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-experimental-a314-for-respect-at-work-compared-with-a314-oil-and-pherlure/23475)._