# mx115 / mx116 pseudojournal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953 "2009-07-24T00:48:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Vaccine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vaccine/32/2381_2.png) [@Vaccine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vaccine)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/21 "2009-07-31T02:12:34Z")
I’ll be another tester if it comes back in the store. ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/22 "2009-07-31T04:54:55Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > **MX116 is the one that I get the most touchy feelies from women with. It is like MX115 is -none and MX116 is P83.** Both serve a purpose but they just get there in different ways. One gets them more attracted followed by feeling comfortable and the other works the other way around. Comfort first, attraction second. holy crap snoopy snoop, very nice unintentional segue into my post for tonight… **open question to all mx115 / mx116 testers _do you think either of them has -none in it?_** here’s why i ask: tonight i used mx115 at 1s. it made my eyes tear up and get tired (contact lens users will know the feeling) and i was sweating like an idiot. it wasn’t even hot today; people were going to the baseball game (per my report below) in suits fresh from work. -none, when sprayed for self effects, does this to me. ammo, tuth, mx292 (the _worst_ for this), anything. sprayed on the back of my neck, i’m ok. this past weekend when i used the two products (report is a few posts up), i also experienced my unfortunate -none side effects. the first night was mx116 at 1s. tired eyes, some sweating; it was also a bit warm in the evening. the second day was mx115, same thing. that night i switched back to mx116, same thing. sunday morning i used .5s of mx115 and it was a bit better. once it goes, it goes. my eyes get really tired and become red. i’ve have many friends ask me “dude, are you high right now?” never touched pot before. i just look like that. eyedrops don’t help, removing my contacts helps a little but still not much. aaaaand i sweat buckets. a wrong colored shirt (gray, brown, basically anything that shows moisture) can get soaked at the armpits and lower back. i’ve perfected a technique to keep my arms cool during an accidental -none side effect surge and i have to constantly “wave” the back of my shirt to keep the sweat from beading up. sucks. the effects go away after a few hours but then i smell like sweat and my eyes are so tired from being “tired” that they’re actually tired and still just a bit red. the weird thing is from my previous experiences, i didn’t notice any -none like hits. kino and social hits with mx115 (which kind of make sense now), slow “tearing down the wall” hits with mx116. however, today i used mx115 at 1s and got **instant** **attraction**. that, combined with my side effects, leads me to question the inclusion of -none in either of these products. i have yet to test mx116 on this theory; my only experience is that it does lead to great bedtime activities, which -none has proven to do for me. **the report** 1s mx115 front neck 3:30p heading to a ballgame, a buddy was doing a fundraiser there i go early to help set up. a few minutes later a girl arrives. 25 (huge kicker with this, wait until later), dirty blonde, very cute. she’s a friend of a friend so i don’t talk to her much at first. no noticeable hits from guys yet, and she’s the only girl. as the fundraiser begins another girl shows up. 26, asian, also very cute. she’s a closer friend so i talk to her more. this girl was **stuck** on me. always followed me around, spoke up whenever there was a second of silence between (thus there wasn’t much silence between us), basically ran down the ioi list. when i used mx115 with sarah i noticed kino and socializing, and now it started to make sense. obviously a gf has social room for kino, and her kino that day wasn’t too sexual as we had some company. with this girl, she doesn’t know me too well so there wasn’t any kino, but the signs of attraction were there. if i had initiated kino or there had been some accidental or “accidental” bumping, i think we could’ve traded kino all night long. it was crazy. then she pulls a friend aside and loud enough for me to hear, she asks if i have a gf. the friend says yes (i’m purposely looking away now, pretending i don’t hear) and the girl did pull back her attraction some, but she kept complimenting me and laughing and what not. she leaves to the side with some other friends and coincidentally the topic of conversation leads me to the first girl. she’s warmed up now to the group of people so she’s talking more and i also start to talk with her. i turn around as somebody says hi to me and when i turn back around, _she’s right beside me and literally touching my arm with her body._ i could feel her arm hairs. i was a little shocked so i took a step away and tried to make it look natural, and she just stepped right over. she turned to face me and started talking. now i knew my eyes were red and i didn’t want to face her, but when i did, i noticed she was in a blank stare while talking to me. there could’ve been a massive explosion behind me and it wouldn’t have fazed her. she probably didn’t even notice my eyes were red. just staring and talking, talking and staring. she said she didn’t know anything about baseball and wanted to sit by me so i could teach her how to watch the game. i said sure. this could’ve meant she wanted to take me beneath the bleachers and show me another game with a bat and balls and “rounding the bases”, i have no idea. **here’s the kicker.** we’re talking about basic background info and she asks me how old i am. i say 22. she says “oh wow, you look so mature for your age.” i say thanks and then ask her how old she is, mainly to be nice and also because **i forgot she was 25. she says 21.** i say “great, that’s a fun age” and then we move on to another topic. wait, what? she **lied about her age** to me? i knew beforehand that she was 25 (from asking “who all is coming tonight?”). she looks her age, at least older than 21. when she said 21 i was kinda shocked and actually believed this (and forgotten about 25) until later in the night when i was talking to a guy and said “hey, did you know she’s 21?” the guy says “no man, she’s 25. mba double masters student (or something crazy like that). her mom told me that.” whoa… tonight i learned a life lesson when this guy clued me in on some street smarts. some girls lie _up_ about their age (jailbait, fake ids), but i never knew girls lie _down_ about their age, maybe except for older women clinging onto their youth. he said some girls ask you your age first (which she did) and then subtract however many years off that to use as their age. this is to appear younger to older men, or to get that “cool, she’s right around my age” vibe for guys like me. later on other guys confirmed she was 25. luckily a good friend showed up and we hit another round of bbq together, kinda bailed me out from that girl. on the way back to the table i told him to go say hi to some other friends and we basically ditched the old table where that girl was. she took the hint and stayed her distance but kept giving me ioi, and then left quietly at some point. that was probably one of my most interesting phero hits yet. yikes. no negative reactions from guys, just standard buddy-buddy fare. decent socializing; i talked more than usual. i think there’s some social ingredients here, otherwise something is making me more confident and thus more talkative. decent status too; i have a naturally smooth swagger around this group of friends and it doesn’t hurt to have two cute girls hitting on you all night. what a freakin trip. anybody want my bottle of mx115? it makes my eyes water, i sweat like i just took a shower with my clothes on, and older women try to snipe me. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/23 "2009-07-31T06:16:50Z")
This most likely has none. It continues to be good stuff to me. 3 sprays. I added some P78. Maybe added something. Definitely didn’t detract. ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/24 "2009-07-31T07:58:17Z")
I want this ssoooo bad!!!@!@ ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 11:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/25 "2009-07-31T11:21:06Z")
> [@djandarial](#): > > I want this ssoooo bad!!!@!@ Me, too! It has MY attention! I sure hope it’s **NEXT** on the list now that the PANTY SCORCHER and the other new stuff are out and running! > [@marty](#): > > This most likely has none. > It continues to be good stuff to me. > 3 sprays. > I added some P78. Maybe added something. Definitely didn’t detract. What’s your thoughts on the addition of P78, MartyMart? Have you harnessed P78? What does it do for you? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 2:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/26 "2009-07-31T14:44:03Z")
P78 has a really good charismatic uplifting quality to it. It makes me feel great. I think it helps bring down that barrier with women, making them more comfortable to open up, because last night women were a lot less reserved about talking to me. It definitely enhances the mix. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/27 "2009-07-31T15:17:48Z")
> [@marty](#): > > P78 has a really good charismatic uplifting quality to it. It makes me feel great. I think it helps bring down that barrier with women, making them more comfortable to open up, because last night women were a lot less reserved about talking to me. It definitely enhances the mix. I believe it was Diane who suggested it as a lower dosage replacement for Meo-Est. I was going to order some with my last order but I forgot. ☹ MX115 most definitely has to have androstenone in it. If MX116 does, I’d say it is more buffered. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/28 "2009-07-31T15:26:19Z")
Oh for sure. I can smell the -none in it. None does funny things to my nose where I can pick it out pretty quickly even when it’s well mixed and covered. ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/29 "2009-07-31T16:21:56Z")
ok, that got squared away quickly. 1s mx115 does wonders for me. at this rate, a to-go could last me a long time. i’m afraid to even test higher doses haha. i slept on this last night and now i don’t know what to think of mx116. the first time i used it, it made me really horny, and i don’t think i’ve ever felt that way before so quickly, so i want to say it’s a product i don’t have. the sweating and red eyes were there on my first test but that was confounded a bit by it being warm outside. sure enough, my next test has to be mx116. @dj - hang on man. you’re as excited for this as we are for ps. once amy gets back and starts cranking out stuff hopefully you’ll jump in on the action. maybe by that point i’ll have worked my way up to 2s of mx115. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/30 "2009-07-31T16:30:17Z")
> [@marty](#): > > P78 has a really good charismatic uplifting quality to it. It makes me feel great. I think it helps bring down that barrier with women, making them more comfortable to open up, because last night women were a lot less reserved about talking to me. It definitely enhances the mix. Diane999 said she only uses one spray of P78, and gets that good good feeling, where as she needs 100-150 mcg of MEO-EST to get that good good feeling. How many sprays are you using, and where is your application point (have you tried different application points … wrist, chest, neck? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/31 "2009-07-31T17:45:14Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Diane999 said she only uses one spray of P78, and gets that good good feeling, where as she needs 100-150 mcg of MEO-EST to get that good good feeling. > > How many sprays are you using, and where is your application point (have you tried different application points … wrist, chest, neck? > > Thanks! 1s of p78 at what mcg? ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/32 "2009-07-31T17:50:20Z")
> [@jayarea](#): > > 1s of p78 at what mcg? Here ya go! [P78: one spray to the chest and I think I found a new favorite](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p78/30158) ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/33 "2009-07-31T17:57:23Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > Here ya go! [P78: one spray to the chest and I think I found a new favorite](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p78/30158) Yeah, that’s the mcg Diane used. I would like to know what mcg Marty used as well/if it’s 12.5 mcg, too. :o ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/34 "2009-07-31T18:17:21Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Yeah, that’s the mcg Diane used. I would like to know what mcg Marty used as well/if it’s 12.5 mcg, too. :o wooooo 12.5 mcg… sounds much better than 100-150 mcg of meo-est. marty’s initial impression is linked in diane’s thread and there he says he used 12.5 and got great results as well, don’t know about layering it with mx115 though. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/35 "2009-07-31T23:14:37Z")
I’ve use between 1 and 3 sprays of P78. With MX115 I’ve used one spray. 12.5mcg/spray. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/36 "2009-08-01T00:21:57Z")
> [@marty](#): > > I’ve use between 1 and 3 sprays of P78. > With MX115 I’ve used one spray. 12.5mcg/spray. Have you used Meo-Est, Marty? If so, the differences, what have you noted? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/37 "2009-08-01T14:49:35Z")
Mmm. Same combo backfired on me last night. I’m wondering if I had some none buildup going on. I had worn it three nights in a row… ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/38 "2009-08-01T15:30:24Z")
> [@marty](#): > > Mmm. Same combo backfired on me last night. I’m wondering if I had some none buildup going on. I had worn it three nights in a row… What do you mean by backfired? Which combo … the 3 sprays of P78, or the MX116 with one spray of P78? ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/39 "2009-08-01T16:07:30Z")
2x MX115 + 1x P78. I felt a bit ghosted. Maybe the slightness of a none OD. ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953/40 "2009-08-01T17:01:03Z")
> [@marty](#): > > 2x MX115 + 1x P78. I felt a bit ghosted. Maybe the slightness of a none OD. could be. i’m beginning to see mx115 in a new light now. hopefully i/we can get mx116 sorted out soon too. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx115-mx116-pseudojournal/30953.md?page=3)